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Brene Brown Gurometer *UNEDITED* (AUDIO) (Patreon)

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2021-11-28 23:33:22
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Again... two hours of sleep, so this is the audio version of that video!

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Demostix

Hey guys, love what you do and I was wondering, can put these audio only on the patreon subscriber feed? Cheers

Kai

Great idea doing the Joe Rogan episode with Daniel Schmachtenberger!

Tom Allison

How can you both be familiar with the more obscure corners of Japanese cuisine and not have the marvelous and oft-needed adjective “mucilaginous“ always at the ready? It’s both nearly onomatopoeic *and* much more appropriate at the table and generally high-minded than the alternative “snot-like” ;).

Tom Allison

Re: Ms. Brown and profiteering: she’s a multimillionaire. How many social workers and academics do you know who have earned their way into that category? I suspect there is something bordering on profiteering going on, there, no?

Giant If

Good episode, and I thought most of the points were...on point. But I think in the rush to make fun of inventing new definitions for words to distinguish them from each other, you overlooked something important about guilt vs. shame. I talked about the distinction here: https://giantif.com/2013/02/18/shame-shame-know-your-name/ And reading my own post again, I'm struck by how I interpreted American individualism as having the opposite effect from what you suggested-- it conflates guilt and shame by holding the individual above everything in the free-will libertarian sense...also the positive psych sense. As in, when the individual is personally responsible for everything that affects them, right down to their own emotions, that can turn a useful state (guilt) into a non-useful one (shame) AND it's also terrible in terms of inspiring positive thinking (which I consider nonsense anyway) because it means when/if you don't feel positive, it's your own fault. Which, in my experience, only makes you feel worse.

Christine Jenkins

I appreciate listening to your views on Brene Brown and find them generally fair and accurate, though I think there is more to her and her work , than you can find in a few hours listening. As a Welsh person living in Ireland, I share your bias about the ways many Americans can have different emphases, and had to get passed that bias to be able to really listen to her.Personally I have found her work very helpful - for a few years, a few years ago, I listened to her a lot. Not her Ted Talks - I don't like the Ted Talk formulaic approach, and rarely find them that helpful or truly representative of the person. I read and listened to her books and to discussions about them. I rarely read to listen to her now - but I am very grateful to having found her work when I did, and I credit it with being very helpful to me in finding my way through some internal struggles - which I can see has helped me navigate through the last few years of the pandemic in a more open, considered way, than I may have without that internal work. I have never felt any pull form her, to remain a disciple, or to be pulled back (which is maybe more cultish than guru-is, but is prevalent in the guru-sphere). I have experienced her as a helpful teacher - and like all helpful teachers - you grow through their work and move on.............. And I think you capture that essence well. Re the above point about her being a multi-millionaire as a Social Worker - I am a former social worker, and feel no jealousy or downside to her success. She puts a lot of her full resources of time, money and focus into improving social work training. I know during my training in the 1980's , I couldn't believe that we weren't asked to challenge ourselves and our values before going out to make judgements about other people's - and over the years, I have seen have I and others trying to "heal" themselves by helping others. Brene's work is really helpful and well considered and focussed in improving the quality of social work . When I was reading her work I was very much wishing that my training had been informed by her work. I find her qualitative research model very relatable as a practice based, rather than research based approach, for someone working in the field. It's good to hear an episode on someone I know and have found helpful and to find it well balanced.