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Liam Bright Interview *UNEDITED* (Video) (Patreon)

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2022-02-17 00:42:12
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It's been a long time coming but we finally cornered the internet's favourite philosopher Liam Bright. It is not everyday you get to have a wide ranging discussion with Leverhulme Prize recipient so we tried to make the most of it.

We cover a bunch of topics including how to use Twitter well, just what is logical positivism and why Liam thinks DtG is the final embodiment of their virtues, why institutions are always completely right and should never be questioned, and how revolutionary politics are a non-starter.

Audio version to follow. As always video is UNEDITED so watch at your own peril!

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Liam Bright Interview *UNEDITED*

A wide ranging discussion with Leverhulme Prize recipient (and philosopher) Liam Bright on logical positivism, how DtG is the final embodiment of their virtues, and why institutions are always completely right.

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Subodh Kafle

Looking forward to this. Although I would be horrified if someone described something I did as the embodiment of logical positivism - maybe he's as sarcastic as Chris?

Mikerpiker

What's so bad about Conor Friedersdorf? I couldn't hear what Liam was saying about him. A "something-centrist"?

Tasty3141

Kavanagh has the biggest collar in the game!

Nina Davies

That point about 'confidence in their ridiculous opinion' .... I think we used to call that arrogance. When I was a youngster it was the main characteristic of the private school educated male and was used to cover up extreme immaturity and an inability to think

Tasty3141

The idea of having a team of paid scientists whose full time job it is to root out fraud and bad science seems like a fantastic idea. In the same way that antivirus companies pay white hat hackers to find exploits. It strikes me too that they could easily have an anonymous reporting system where people could give them tips on where they might find fraud. Often there are suspect papers but nobody has the time or inclination to really root into it. Even more fun would be in labs with larger studies the junior members might be well aware of dodgy stuff going on that they don't like but can't say anything about. They could easily anonymously tip off this 'crime division' of academia to say "Look at charts X and Y on page 12 of This paper. You'll see they dont' make sense." and it would be v hard for them to be exposed as the whistleblower. In that climate I could see fraud becoming far less enticing for even a totally immoral actor.

Tasty3141

Adding "Affect" to the Gurometer is an idea with a lot of merit. The moment he mentioned it I thought of Douglas Murray. But Sargon is another great example. It's like the degree to which you can get away with bad arguments because you say them with gravitas or the right British accent. So if we included it we might see something like a 4/5 for Sargon where if it wasn't for his accent he would be much, much less persuasive to anybody because his arguments are so poor. Douglas Murray might get a 5/5 but another Guru like Scott Adams would get a 1/5. Peterson ocasionally stumbles about a bit and has a sort unusual charisma so might give him 4/5 but Eric Weinstein is a definite 5/5 with his brother a bit more boring but carrying the scientific aura in the way he speaks might get a 3/5 or 4/5.

Jenny

Yup, Aristotle. Rhetoric 1.1. "Rhetoric is a counterpart of Dialectic; for both have to do with matters that are in a manner within the cognizance of all men and not confined to any special science. Hence all men in a manner have a share of both; for all, up to a certain point, endeavor to criticize or uphold an argument, to defend themselves or to accuse" https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Aristot.+Rh.+1.1.1

Arabella Holzapfel

Part of my job is keeping tabs on trends in scholarly publishing, so I'm watching this (legitimately) on work time - Brilliant! Thank you! (And looking forward to your Robert Wright ep. Still.) :-)

Dave Lavelle

There's something very entertaining about Matt chugging whiskey and pounding the vape in the first minute of the podcast. Gangsta.

Jenny

I greatly enjoyed hearing a British person saying “yinz,” showing the influence of your time in Pittsburgh. As an italophile and student of Latin and other languages with a plural form of “you” I’m obsessed with English vernaculars that have it, like yinz, yous, and y’all. It’s such a downright reasonable linguistic form

Exai

Liam's a record-breaking 6/10 argument for the existence of Twitter.

Nick Wiebe

Wonderful guy, entertaining chat

Matt Graham

Audio only version coming? I have a long drive to make today and I want my wife who doesn’t follow any of this shit to still love me when we get there so I hope not.

Sharmi

This was very enjoyable :).

Maarten Wesselius

Over the past days I was alone at home suffering constant pain from a medical condition that has now thankfully been relieved surgically. That period happened to coincide with you dropping the Timbah, Bright and Wright episodes. Your velvety, soothing, graceful pronunciations of the English language are what pulled me through! This particular episode contained a lot of delightful banter, joking around and sarcasm; I would keep all of that in the final edit!