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Interview with Mickey Inzlicht on the Replication Crisis, the state of Psychology, and Mindfulness *UNEDITED* (Audio) (Patreon)

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2022-03-25 06:27:39
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An in depth discussion with well known psychologist and former psychology podcast host Mickey Inzlicht (Two Psychologists, Four Beers) that touches on a lot of topics but mostly revolves around psychology, academia, and the replication crisis.I think we fixed the issue with the audio levels in this version but let me know if you encounter any problems.

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Chris

Excellent episode!

Tim Tripp

Wang Saen Suk Hell Garden or the Suphanburi Hell Temple, where you learn about the Buddhist underworld and what you earn for your sins. Quite the place for the tourist to visit in Thailand. Are there Christian equivalents?

Emma

Oh no. I am worried we're going to have to endure a Sam Harris right to reply interview no. 2!

Allan Malcolm McPherson

I really enjoyed listening to this conversation. A bunch of my pet interests were discussed in charming and thoughtful ways.

Carolyn Reeves

Many interesting topics! I found the conversation on mindfulness refreshing. I think there have been many stretched out and overblown claims about the benefits of mindfulness as an intervention in clinical psychology. I'd bet that something like dialectical behavior therapy more pointedly conveys the benefit of taking non-evaluative stances, and people who need that don't necessarily also need to be working on enhancing their attentional capacity. I think the explosion of mindfulness research in 2005 in part represented a growing disillusionment with pharmaceutical interventions and a fetishisation with natural/ alternative approaches to health. A lot of good came from a renewed emphasis on the importance of diet, exercise, rest, and stress management; but there also emerged an ableist and bootstrappy "you can fix anything with meditation" zealousness... producing the emotionally repressed and passive aggressive "enlightened" people that Matt mentioned. Re: ayahuasca + jaguars, I've heard more than one anecdote of people having ayahuasca visions that align with Q anon type conspiracy theories. Unfortunately, rather than consider that popular chatter in fringe groups could be influencing one's experience, these visions were instead regarded as confirmation that the conspiracies were real.

Martin Pelchat

This was a great conversation, thanks. My spouse (who is in academia) could relate with most of your talk and pet peeves on the subject. The exchange on mindfulness was very interesting, and I would like to raise a few things here in that regard: - Oddly enough, after three years of meditating daily (using the dreaded Waking Up app!), I find myself in a similar situation as Mickey did some years back, which is that lately I have been questionning whether I am investing my time wisely by meditating 20 minutes per day and wondering if I really am improving or not. I like to think that I have improved since I started this practice a few years ago, but I often wonder if I am fooling myself in an attempt to convince myself that I haven't lost so much time sitting down trying to focus on my breath, body sensations, etc. - From what I recall, Mickey seemed to focus his points on the relationship between happinness and mindfulness, highlighting that there is no clear correlation between the two, but I wonder if there is good evidence that meditation provides other 'benefits', such as better concentration, less impulsivity, etc. For instance, one thing I can tell for sure is that since I began meditation, I am much better at recognizing thoughts as thoughts and at feeling bodily sensations, whether I am out for a walk or lifting weights. - Chris made some good points. Even before becoming familiar with Evan Thompson’s work, I began wondering if through my meditative practice I was really accessing an ‘objective’ reality, or how the mind really is in an unfiltered way, or if the conceptual Framework erected by buddhist currents influences the whole thing. I am still not ready to dismiss the whole mindfulness/méditation trend as a bunch of nonsense. Even though I don’t believe enlightenment to be something withing people’s reach, as Sam would say, ‘there is a there there’. Just looking at the number of people that have experienced something very positive from meditation, wheter it be meditation masters or guys like Loch Kelly or Henry Shukman, I do figure that there is actually something 'out there' to attain and that it isn't all fluff or smoke and mirrors. Again, great interview. You guys have quickly risen to become my favorite podcast.