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Hi everyone,

Thought some of you might enjoy this guest appearance on Shane Mauss' comedy/science themed podcast. 

We recorded it a few months ago but it just came out now. Was a nice chilled conversation and I tried to retreading the topics Matt covered during his appearance a few weeks before.

As always happy to hear any feedback. We will be back soon with new episodes, just dealing with our editing backlog.

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Internet Gurus | Here We Are Podcast Ep. 381 w/ Dr. Chris Kavanagh | Hosted by Shane Mauss

Today I'm speaking with Dr. Christopher Kavanagh, who is a postdoctoral researcher at the Institute of Cognitive & Evolutionary Anthropology. Chris is also the cohost of the Decoding the Gurus Podcast. We talk about the effect that internet gurus and thought leaders have on public perception of science and politics. Chris’ research focuses broadly on collective rituals and their impact on social identity and group orientated behaviors, using a combination of field and lab based experiments, online surveys, and traditional ethnographic methods. Check out the Decoding the Gurus podcast: https://decoding-the-gurus.captivate.fm/ Follow Chris on Twitter: https://twitter.com/c_kavanagh Learn more about Chris' work: https://www.anthro.ox.ac.uk/people/dr-chris-kavanagh Thank you for watching and being an inquisitive being. 🅢🅣🅐🅨 🅒🅤🅡🅘🅞🅤🅢 Bite Size Science ▶ https://bit.ly/HWABites Full Episodes of Here We Are ▶ https://bit.ly/FullHWA Beyond science, you can visit my channel for comedy, sketches, psychedelic stories, and more. Subscribe or be eaten by snakes. https://www.youtube.com/c/ShaneMauss314 🆂🅷🅰🅽🅴 🅼🅰🆄🆂🆂 🅸🅽🅵🅾 𝕊𝕠𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕄𝕖𝕕𝕚𝕒 Instagram ▶ https://bit.ly/inshane (Silliness and science clips) Patreon ▶ https://bit.ly/PatreonSaint (Behind the scenes, bonus content, and community) Twitter ▶ https://bit.ly/TwittSM (rants in my pants stream of consciousness) Facebook ▶ https://bit.ly/MaussFB (sporadic blogging, jokes, and event announcements) 𝕊𝕙𝕒𝕟𝕖 𝕄𝕒𝕦𝕤𝕤 𝕋𝕠𝕦𝕣𝕤, ℂ𝕠𝕞𝕖𝕕𝕪, 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕄𝕠𝕣𝕖 ▶ https://bit.ly/shane-mauss Mailing List ▶ https://bit.ly/shanemail 𝕊𝕙𝕒𝕟𝕖 𝕄𝕒𝕦𝕤𝕤 𝔻𝕠𝕔𝕦𝕞𝕖𝕟𝕥𝕒𝕣𝕪 'Psychonautics' ▶ https://bit.ly/Nautics 𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐇𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐖𝐞 𝐀𝐫𝐞: Stand-up comedian, adventurer and science enthusiast Shane Mauss has been interviewing scientists each week since 2014. Originally from La Crosse, Wisconsin this former factory worker skipped college to become a comedian. His stand up has been on Comedy Central, Conan, Kimmel, Showtime, and Epix https://bit.ly/shaneTV . In the age of podcasting, more people might be familiar with him as a guest on Trussell, Holmes, Kreischer, Vaughn, Maron, or Rogan https://bit.ly/shaneguest. Compelled to talk about bigger ideas, he now travels to universities around the world (when there isn't a pandemic) to interview researchers on a journey to learn what makes us who we are...as well as a bunch of other random stuff you never imagined you would care about. Favorite topics include: psychology, biology, evolution, cognitive biases, behavioral economics, mating, animal behavior, neuroscience, entheogens and consciousness. ℙ𝕠𝕕𝕔𝕒𝕤𝕥 𝕎𝕖𝕓𝕤𝕚𝕥𝕖 ▶ https://bit.ly/HereWePod Apple Podcasts ▶ https://bit.ly/HWApod Spotify ▶ https://bit.ly/HWAPodcast Stitcher ▶ https://bit.ly/HWAstitch 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐭𝐲 Gain exclusive access to the Shane Mauss Discord server where you can chat with Shane and other likeminded people about a variety of topics while making new friends. Access through Patreon where you can also get bonus content first looks at new projects and more. ▶ https://bit.ly/PatreonSaint 𝕻𝖆𝖙𝖗𝖊𝖔𝖓 𝕾𝖆𝖎𝖓𝖙 If you or your business want to sponsor an episode of Here We Are (50k audio downloads/week), join the community on Patreon ▶ https://bit.ly/PatreonSaint ♥ Partners & Merch ♥ 𝗟𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 For years I have collaborated with 👢ost 💲ailor 🌛esign to make all my amazing leather merch which until now was only available at live shows. Now not only can you order custom Here We Are journals, keychains, wallets, and belts for the first time but you can get 20% off the entire store only with offer code 'hereweare20' ▶ https://bit.ly/keyshane 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼𝗯𝗼𝗼𝗸𝘀 from YOUR local bookstore. Libro.fm is the only audiobook company that supports the local bookstore of your choice. When you sign up, you pick the independent bookstore partner of your choice, each download is split 50/50 with your bookstore!! Get 2 for the price of one while supporting Here We Are ▶ https://bit.ly/shanebooks If you aren't into audiobooks, please just visit and support your local small bookstore before these treasures are extinct!

Comments

Julie

Chris was amazing as usual. I can’t believe the other guy has any science background. He talks like he is stoned and doesn’t finish most his sentences and cuts off Chris a lot

TraderinNYC

As a fellow fan of TWIV you can listen to Ralph Baric's interviews starting in Jan 2020 and he never once says it is a confirmed zoonotic origin. He leaves open the possibility of a lab leak. Could be many years before it is confirmed either way.

Andy

Feel free to ignore this. My brain just likes to argue with you even though I agree that Bret is wrong and TWiV is the way to go but my guess is that if Bret never once claimed it was confirmed lab origin and just dropped strategic disclaimers about how “oh well it could be zoonotic but” and then went on the rest of the show that talking about lab leak you would still criticize that (for good reason) so giving lip service to the other view or not explicitly claiming that your side is 100% confirmed is not the same as avoiding extreme claims/overstating your evidence. In other words, I guess your justification for listening to TWiV just struck me as inherently hypocritical despite my agreement with you about all the facts.

TraderinNYC

I don't know about Bret, don't listen to him. TWIV is just one of many sources BUT Ralph Baric is undeniably the world expert on coronaviruses and he has said multiple times lab leak is a possible origin. He has financial and scientific ties to WIV and still says this.

Jason Trock

Nice talk. The galaxy-brain-ness power of the guru should never be underestimated!