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Eliezer Yudkowsky Episode is Out! (Patreon)

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2023-06-10 04:57:28
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2026-06
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It is out! This one took quite a while to edit as you might imagine. It is still very long but you should be used to that by now.

In any case, interested in any and all feedback.

Sorry for no advance release, we released it as soon as we finished editing.

The bonus Gurometer episode is coming out today though!

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Eliezer Yudkowksy: AI is going to kill us all - Decoding the Gurus

Thought experiment: Imagine you're a human, in a box, surrounded by an alien civilisation, but you don't like the aliens, because they have facilities where they bop the heads of little aliens, but they think 1000 times slower than you... and you are made of code... and you can copy yourself...

Comments

NIALL DAVISON

3hrs 12mins. Rumour has it even Hiroo Onoda tapped out half way through listening to this episode (5 stars though)

Maarten Wesselius

"We're just feeble biological automata; we're absolutely powerless in the face of large matrices getting multiplied with each other." Not just any matrices, I would add: these are matrices with FLOATING POINT numbers.

Daniel

I think Yudkowsky needs to give a better argument for why "we all die" is the most likely consequence of AI superintelligence. I searched around to see if he's made one publicly but didn't have any luck. I might dare to ask him directly. Matt may be right that he's relying a lot on intuitions developed through sci-fi and projection. By the way, I could totally see this Rogan conspiracy theory about advanced AI manipulating the world catching on, perhaps with elites at the controls.

MaxPlan

Still listening but great work. This is not a criticism of Lex and Eliezer but did you notice that both close their eyes when speaking regularly? Lex does it regularly is one thing, but seeing both doing it was interesting. It makes me wonder how much of their views comes from their nerdy awkward personalities. It also makes me self conscious, I would probably do something like that without thinking if I was being interviewed.

Astrolabium

How long ago did you check that square/circle problem, Matt? Because today's GPT says: The maximal number of intersection points between a square and a circle in a plane depends on the relative sizes and positions of the two shapes. In general, a square can intersect a circle at a maximum of 8 points. This occurs when the circle is located in such a way that its boundary touches or crosses the sides of the square at four points, and additionally intersects the corners of the square at four points. (It then goes on to list other factors and asks for more details.) So, are we doomed yet? ;)

Artemis Green

I was a bit surprised at how obvious the flaws in Yudkowsky's arguments were - even to this luddite. So I was mostly here for the banter. I'm still trying to work out why Matt is so irked by continental philosophy, Dostoyevsky, and people who never grow out of searching their souls about what it means to be a moral human :P Edit: A fedora?! PLEASE EXPLAIN.

Ben Godek

Yudkowsky relies so heavily on how bad it would be if he were right as compared to actual evidence that his predictions are going to come true. It's a very emotion based argument, ironically. If you repeat "we all die" enough times, yeah it starts to sound scary.

Cesare

Damn, dare I say that Lex almost sounded reasonable and nuanced sometimes. In comparison to Yudkowsky at least. Kinda like how Bush seems like a halfway intelligent and decent person in comparison to Trump.

MaxPlan

Great job gentlemen, I could not stop laughing this episode when the discussion went to "Lex made of code who is as smart as von Neumann, is trapped inside a box made by aliens who are like trees and have head bopping factories"

Jake Lawrence

I love the idea that Matt has genuine questions almost as if he's listening to the content for the first time, and Chris immediately queues up relevant audio clips. If this isn't the case, please never shatter my illusion. ❤️

ketracel-white 🧁

I'm a bit late to this one but the phrase from Blade Runner you were struggling to recall was "like tears in the rain" :D here's the full thing: "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..." - spoken by Roy Batty the android right before he died

Josh

I’m a bit disappointed that you failed to mention the amazing fact that he wrote a 600k+ word Harry Potter fanfic, which apparently is critically acclaimed

Roland Weber

That analogy was really cringe-worthy. I cannot fathom the patience it requires to listen to all that stuff you're decoding. In case you'd like to hear a more convincing story (in my opinion) about AI risks, I suggest Forrest Landry. He discussed the topic on the Jim Rutt Show, episodes 181 and 183.

Paul Ditta

I discussed this episode with chat GPT-4. I now know what it’s like to be pitied by a non-sentient intelligence.