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Next Decoding material... Eric on UFOs (Patreon)

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2023-06-15 13:24:07
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For those of you unaware there was a landslide victory in the next decoding poll for a return to the Weinstein bros and UFOs.

However, we released during preparation that it is simply too much Weinstein to do both brothers in one go, so...

First up is Eric. 

Here is the interview we will be looking at, which also featured recent guest Mick West.

Bret will have a separate episode potentially with a certain Wizard-y guest decoder. 

We will break up the Weinstein madness with Chomsky or McConaughey so look forward to that too.

Enjoy!

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Eric Weinstein Λ Mick West: UAPs, Evidence, Skepticism

Eric and Mick discuss UFOs and the evidence behind them. Sponsor: Brilliant: https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802 Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch LINKS MENTIONED: - DELETED Bonus Question (cut off at end): https://youtu.be/4ZWOae7qFUU - Mick's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MickWest - Crash Course on Physics by Curt: https://youtu.be/e8kyvdPP8os - The Portal (Eric's podcast): https://www.youtube.com/EricWeinsteinPhD - The Tales From the Rabbit Hole (Mick's podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tales-from-the-rabbit-hole/id1462120258 - Need to Know (Ross Coulthart's podcast with Zabel): https://www.youtube.com/BryceZabel and https://needtoknow.today/ - Eric on the Guitar: https://youtu.be/vr1-AGOIGhw TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:12 What does Mick respect about Eric? 00:04:20 What does Eric respect about Mick? 00:05:24 What does Curt respect about each 00:06:55 Skeptic vs. Debunker (Mick... which are you?) 00:09:32 Salutary role of skepticism and Eric's thoughts on Mick 00:14:53 The "woo" that's concomitant with UFO research 00:19:00 UFO research isn't a "hobby" 00:23:34 Mick's "agenda" (or non-agenda) 00:25:19 There's no convincing data on UFOs available to the public 00:30:58 The "superposition" argument: Exotic explanations that Mick entertains 00:35:03 Where is the evidence? 00:36:28 Outlying data points matter 00:40:07 Some debunkers stifle the UFO community, but not all debunkers 00:43:34 What's the disagreement between Eric and Mick 00:45:50 Mick has changed his mind about UFOs 00:50:38 CE5 and invitations to Skin Walker (would Mick / Eric go?) 00:53:26 Cattle mutilation? Remote viewing? 01:06:14 Classifying different UFO craft 01:07:31 Why are there so many sober UFO witnesses? 01:09:22 Brandon Fugal's story 01:16:46 UFOs as "technology" vs. "new physics" 01:23:37 The secret history of anti-gravity research with Lefschetz and DeWitt 01:30:58 What terrene explanations are left? 01:41:26 Eric's "sighting" in 1988... 01:44:57 The Skin Walker TV show doesn't help the stigma 01:46:30 Does Brandon have any high quality data points he's not releasing? 01:47:45 Opinions on Bob Lazar 01:48:52 The opprobrium because of stigma is too much. Most can't handle it. 01:51:45 Clearing the air: the Twitter squabble between Eric and Mick 01:54:11 The opprobrium thrown at people who have first hand accounts (continued) 01:58:46 Defending claims made without physical evidence 02:03:05 Some conspiracies are real 02:07:56 Rectifying the ridicule in ufology (from both sides) 02:21:41 What does Eric think should happen, to precipitate disclosure? 02:24:48 What does Mick think should happen, to precipitate disclosure? 02:27:21 Eric asks Curt: "What do you want to see happen?" 02:33:00 FOR THIS QUESTION, CHECK DESCRIPTION. THERE WAS A VIDEO RENDER ERROR. "Is it so improbable we're visited? If it was us, we would visit other species." * * * Just wrapped (April 2021) a documentary called Better Left Unsaid http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com on the topic of "when does the left go too far?" Visit that site if you'd like to watch it.

Comments

Paul Sees

I hope you're listening to mcConaughty on lex friedman!

Dan

Great choice! Thought Mick did an excellent job pushing back on Eric’s lawyer-y type attempts to corner Mick into agreeing with his cockamamie positions. I’m also glad Mick makes Eric “not feel good inside” with some of his objective critiques 🤣

Suzan Lemont

The level of whinging/emotional manipulation "I didn't feel very good about that"/"you're not very nice to me" from Eric was just nauseating! He did, however, have some moments of reasonableness. I do wonder though, if I'd have found him so hard to take if I hadn't listened to you guys' earlier episodes featuring him and his unstable genius/Nobel prize-deserving brother. The decoding is gonna be fun!

bron stoll-engelsen

Having a hard time finding the audio version of the orig podcast? The pod is called TOE? Didn’t see them together on either of each others, seems like a third party sitch?

Devin Poore

Mick said he liked to "flex his programming muscles" building simulations and Eric throws a fit, claiming he's basically said that he is just out to flex on people online. Unfortunate that Mick didn't immediately recall his specific usage of the word, but Eric was objectively wrong in his accusation and got very triggered over his own misunderstanding. A revolutionary genius at his finest lol.

Daniel

There's an opportunity cost to looking for "new science" in UFOs as Eric thinks should be done. Why should scientists explore something that has turned out time and again to not be that interesting, at the expense of not exploring other aspects of our universe that are more likely to yield discoveries? He's intrigued by the frequency of UFO sightings but it seems like that can be well explained as a recurring psychosocial phenomenon in extremely large populations. Lots of people see ghosts too.

Suzan Lemont

Aww poor Eric! His primal urges to disappear into a world of super-heroes and fantasy was (it seems like) severely discouraged by his atheistic family, going all the way back 5 generations. In his mind it seems that if you grew up in that sort of environment then you are starved for creative imagination and the freedom to indulge them. In the world of a "debunker" there is no creativity, and there isn't (but should be he argues) any ability for creatives to be skeptical or engage in appropriate debunking. Damn I wish someone had set me straight so I wouldn't have become a critically thinking/skeptical pagan writer/dance theater maker/storyteller/metaphor/symbolism wizard! Where should I stand in this black and white world? I have no idea! 😂 I'm glad Eric has it all figured out though. My troubled soul can rest easy now.

Paul Hemmerling

Mick deserves an award for having that long of a conversation with Eric. I’m about half way through, but so far, Mick has remained very composed given that Eric keeps misrepresenting Micks stance.