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A little mini decoding to get us back into the swing of things as we look at a viral clip that had religious reactionaries, sensemakers, and academic philosophers in a bit of a tizzy. Specifically, a clip from a talk by the well-known author and academic Yuval Noah Harari in which he discussed how human rights (and really all human culture) is a kind of fiction.

Get ready for a thrilling ride as your intrepid duo plunges into a beguiling world of symbolism, cultural evolution, and outraged philosophers. By the end of the episode, we have resolved many intractable philosophical problems including whether monkeys are bastards, if first-class seating is moral, and where exactly human rights come from. Philosophers might be mad but that will just prove how right we are.

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SHOUNAK SARKAR

Lol, Matt was flexing his inner Marxist today in the podcast intro :) That said, I do sympathise with you. Seeing a brash, young kid in First Class reading Jordan Peterson would also greatly increase my blood pressure.

Kit McLean

Excellent amuse-bouche decoding. If people are triggered by this.... There was an episode of Philosophize This! podcast last year (#191) that went over the work of Giorgio Agamben (influenced by Simone Weil) who doesn't like human rights at all!

rooftowel

Twitter/X will lead you astray if you don't first consider this as engagement bait. Some of the characteristics of collective outrage that Jon Ronson observed in "So You've Been Publicly Shamed" are there (uncharitable, over the top, moralistic reactions). And bait topics on academic twitter tend to attract some of the least qualified to comment, which might then attract onlookers to shoot fish in a barrel. Chris mentioned being linked a Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy article. What might be misleading about that is an encyclopedia article is a comprehensive summary of a topic. It's not necessarily indicative of what is representative or present in recent academic literature, if it was even relevant. I suspect from the discussion that there is little overlap between online philosophers and academic works that might have been relevant - for example I remembered John Tasioulas on Twitter writes on human rights and unsurprisingly he did not comment online and his papers on the first page of Google seem sensible and are not metaethically weird or counter intuitive, as far as I can tell.

Riku

I love all you godless materialists

Farah

I dunno, I do think there is an intrinsic characteristic of humans that innately lead us certain concepts (like the golden rule or religion)

Alex H

Big of you to let Gad Saad write the opening skit, Chris. I'm sure he appreciated the work!

Linda Sears

One way to rebut the critics of this idea that human rights are a symbolic construct is the fact that most humans throughout history did not have them and many people still do not. For instance, Matt’s experience as a second class citizen in the flight back to Australia. 😄

Zack

These people would die reading one of the most influential philosophers of the last 200-300 hundred years, Jeremy Bentham, argue that “Natural rights are simple nonsense: natural and imprescriptible rights, rhetorical nonsense, -- nonsense upon stilts”

Trees

Matt's thoughts on first class resonated with me--I was totally on board with leveling air travel. After some reflection I think this might be because as professionals we rarely encounter such a visceral demonstration of the limits of our class status. I don't want a Ferrari, and I can't really imagine buying and selling companies for fun. Leg room looks nice, and I don't like having to walk past it. I suppose if I could only afford the bus, some socialist ideas about cars would pop in my head as I watched them pass me in the rain. Or if I spent my days in retail selling things I couldn't afford.

Rasterisk

Smoke a blunt, give a ted x talk: pseudo-profound banality. Do some nootropics, record a podcast with a passel of sensemaking bros: pseudo-profound waffle.

Ymirsdreams

Jeremy Bentham declared natural rights as “simple nonsense” and imprescriptible natural rights as “nonsense on stilts”. That is why I started my charity "Stilts for WarZones", go to www.loftyideals.com to donate. For every $20 donation you will receive a free clown nose.

Nina Davies

My daughter is a philosopher at a University that is very into Theology. The department is very strong on applied ethics, which is a good thing. However, as an anthropologist type who is very suspicious of universal claims (good grief, I had a very painful discussion about Jungian archetypes with a philosopher over Christmas), I just don't get how there can be whole areas of philosophy which a basically someone deciding their random, unevidenced belief about something is true. At least pure maths requires proofs ......

aneladgam_varelse

This episode pushed me to becoming a patreon, because i really want to spread this important message: sits in rear of the airplane are much safer in case of a crash, so 1st class sits, which are next to cockpit, arent that great