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Future Rewards? (Patreon)

Published:
2017-05-03 01:39:27
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

Future Rewards?

  • I make maps! Horrible maps! 34
  • D&D/Other tabletop game notes? Something rpg-ish for monsters/people? 14
  • A daily story. <1,000 words in the lives of side characters like Octavia. 45
  • Discord? Might just be text-only on my side, and odd hours. 15
  • Me writing fanfiction. Erfworld, The Last Turn etc. 10
  • Blog posts on writing, the emptiness of life, etc. 11
  • 2017-05-03
  • 129 votes
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Content

Hey, this is all tentative, but I thought I'd get some opinions. Right now, we're halfway towards my lifelong dream goal of self-employment, but although I've got a lot of $5 rewards, there's nothing higher. So...here's some stuff I'm considering. 

Might not happen, but I've been getting suggestions and looking at what the trendy Patreon people are doing. Including that Emma Blackery and Phillip DeFranco guy who somehow managed to get so many Patreons IN ONE WEEK--

Anyways, feel free to add comments or suggestions!

Comments

Lightwavers

Definitely do the daily stories. Martha Wells is making a little over $1000 a month in $1 Patreon subscriptions from her short Raksura stories, and I'd say you're pretty close to her writing level (and a lot faster).

Mundane

My vote is for anything you can sustain and not burn out on. I have seen a few patreon/kickstarters that added too much as stretch goals (Erfworld for example) really backfire.

Sage Berthelsen

I already give you two blue rubees a month. I'm happy with you're delicious story so far and for me that's enough.

Michael

To be fair, Philly D had a massive following built up over a decade to pull on.

Colby Last

In all honesty, the only reason you got this many patreons is because of two things. 1) you are incredibly regular about chapter releases. 2) you get an extra chapter if you donate 5 dollars. That's where the vast majority of your money is coming from. Those aren't gonna move up to the 10 dollar package for short stories. People who donate for things like that are the minority. You want more money, put more chapters on the table. Tell me, if you get enough money to quit your job, would that translate to you working 8 hours a day 5 days a week to you churning out chapters?

Stephan Roessler

Something that I know that can potentially bring in a different group of people is good artwork (maps?). Plus it would give you a chance to change up what you're working on if you provided artwork occasionally. I want to second Colby's note, consistent on time updates is a big deal to a lot of people.

Dustin S.

Well, that sucks; wrote a big ol thing up, and apparently it timed out?? Basically, I think the side story could be really fun; I also think/hope they could be a less exhaustive "bonus" option than a full chapter! But what if: Every $10/month donation get's to pick a character for a side story? So if you have x12 $10/month pledges, you'll write 12 short stories of their choice that month (there would be a cap on how many of this, obviously, if needed). At $5/month, we get to read them all. Then you publish 1-4 of them to the main free blog, to give everyone a taste and to share some of the bonus material. I know you don't like doing things exclusive, but even so, this could provide a strong incentive to peeps. Thoughts to that idea?

Tom Braider

I don't think you can compare the two to your work. they had larger following and a more easily accessible platform. I want a map mostly because where the inn is in relation to Liscor has been inconsistent. as for the matter of expanding your reader base again, I'd recommend short impactful shortstories that don't need to be read in context. Standalones 1000-2000 word shorts that end leaving the flavor that people want more of this universe/world, to get them to begin the wandering inn. most of what you've done has pulled people from existing communities like top web fiction and royalroad, however i havn't seen much to pull general populous into yours, or those communities.

Carter

The daily story option seems appealing, but you are already going at a good pace for your story already. I don't want you to overwork yourself trying to write more and then getting burnt out!

J H

I’m going to suggest some things that are a bit different, but I think it would help you get more readers, which would naturally lead to more people giving on Patreon. Honestly your best bet is to pursue more of these $1 and $5 givers instead of trying to get current givers to give more. So first of all, your blog is confusing and hard to navigate for a new reader. It’s kind of disorganized with a post on top, nested comments below, and then your overview on the sidebar on the overview page. It’s also a little hard to figure out where you left off as there are no chapter names, and the chapter numbers aren’t whole numbers. Worst of all is the chapter numbers going back when it is a different character, for example from 1.20 to 1.00 R to 1.01 R to 1.21. I see your reasoning for doing it but it’s too confusing! Finally, while some people are fine with only being able to read online on your blog, it will turn many people away. If you can make at least just the first volume available as an e-book in .mobi and .epub or something (also maybe with chapter titles, or whole number chapters like 1,2,3…) it would make it a lot easier to get people into the story long enough to hook them, after which they will probably deal with anything to keep reading. Second, the beginning of the story is a little slow, and you are probably losing a lot of readers who do not realize how awesome the story becomes. To be honest, I was one of them who got bored after a few chapters, and only came back to the story after hearing people rave about it and insisting that it gets better on reddit.com/r/fantasy. Maybe start the story with an interlude from a high-level and cool character with some action so that people get a teaser of what cool stuff exists in your world and what they have to look forward to if they keep reading. Also you should have a link to your Patreon page on your blog. I love your story and you write at an incredible pace even while you are working another job, so believe me I would love for you to get to the point where you could quit your other job and focus on writing full time. Best of luck!

Scott Carlson

Agreed. I would not want to push for something that could burn you (pirate) out, or put too much demand on you for a daily release. I like the Discord idea much better. It allows readers to chat with each other about stuff, what we think may happen, speculation or whatever, talk about our favorite parts. You know the drill. It also gives all of us a potential great channel straight to the pirate in charge! To be honest I was worried when I saw that many wanted daily stories because I've seen how quickly that can but people out, stress build up, etc. And I love this story and all of this way too much to want to see that.