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Game Of Thrones 8X4 ~ ''The Last of the Starks'' ~ Extended Reaction ~ Part 2 (Patreon)

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the cozy groban

this episode is where things stop making sense to me as well😞 i’m excited to see how you’ll react to the last episodes but sad that it’s coming to an end!!

BuffySlays

It makes me sad that people struggle so hard to understand Sansa. And I think it's because they get blinded by Dany being badass with her dragons. Sansa is not finding every excuse to anything. She literally watched Littlefinger, a man who claimed to "love" 2 people in her family, destroy it. She watched anybody interested in the iron throne sacrifice her family little by little. This is extreme trauma. Her paranoia about Dany, whom she believed only helped in exchange for submission is very valid. Paranoia regarding anyone interested in the Irone Throne is extremely understandable for Sansa if you pay attention without wearing Dany rose colored glasses. Sansa doesn't actually decide to tell Tyrion until she says "you're afraid of her..?" and he doesn't deny it. I don't see anything off about Sansa's reaction.

Daenerys Targaryen

I had the same reaction as you with Sansa. I felt like they put her against Dany for no reason. I know people will have different reactions to these things, but I don't agree with Sansa's reactions. Same for Arya...all of a sudden they all say they don't trust Dany when they just saved everyone pretty much. The writing became terrible!

Julien
>>89831172

I haven't watched the reaction yet but Sansa's motives are pretty clear: she wants the North to remain independent, not bend the knee to some Southern king AGAIN. Being part of the 7 kingdom hasn't worked out lately for the North, and they (not just Sansa!) want no more part of that shit. Sansa has been crystal clear about this, so it would be curious if people are finding her behavior confusing.

BuffySlays
>>89832558

It's not for no reason. Anyone interested in the Iron Throne has been dangerous to Sansa's family. History proves it time and time again. Her reaction is very understandable if you stop and actually consider her perspective. Dany didn't do anything to help the north that she wouldn't have had to do anyway. And without helping the north first, they too would be part of the army of the dead and then no Arya Stark or Jon Snow to handle the Night King. No Irone Throne for Dany. They all needed each other equally. Jon would do all the same things as Dany if he could and without making people to "bEnD ThE knEE!" first. Sansa knows this, which is why she acts the way she does.

Joshua Sutton

*Sigh* Yeah your reaction was pretty much what I expected and when you were smiling when the dragons were flying I thought " Ohhh crap here we go" But we know and understand your feelings we all went through it and like I have said before and I will forever keep saying This season and seasons 6&7 IS not the work of George RR Martin All these seasons are written by David & dan they did not have the books to fall back on as George is writing them still Also George had NO say or influence in the last 3 season's Also The part you talking about Bronn He wanted high garden but Jamie said No I believe his words where " You don't want high garden the more or bigger the castle the more it weighs you down" also I think he said " if you take it then Danny could come and take it back the next day" Something along those lines

entendencia

I hated Sansa character. She became such a bitch.

Julien
>>89832997

The notion that anyone would give Highgarden to not even a low born, but a sellsword, is absurd beyond words. 😂 Would never happen in GRRM's world, where class differences and blood, even within the nobility, are critical. The lords of the Reach, the noblest of whom can trace their families back millennia, would never, ever, EVER, in a million years accept the rule of some nameless sellsword. Ever. Low-borns do become knights and some do get elevated into the nobility and become lords. But they don't rise from nothing to a great house in one lifetime.

Charles Suresh

Sansa, Arya and the Starks FTW Sansa is exactly how a ruler should be. Looking out for her people. Hatred towards Sansa is totally unjustified. Daenerys is tooo desperate to get the Irone Throne. This in and of itself kind of rules her out from being an ideal candidate for the throne. Sansa snuffs it out.

Kayla

This is when Season 8 truly started to get frustrating. Daenerys has lost everything important to her and Missandei's death is truly the breaking point for her, you can see it written all over her face. I get Sansa's reasoning for everything, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating...especially considering the fact that she swore an oath in the Godswood to Jon. Everything that Daenerys said would happen if Jon told is happening and it's pushing her to her breaking point with all the losses piled on top.

Julien

Finally watched the whole thing. Your reaction in S8 is what the show runners were TRYING - and failing - to accomplish when they made this. You instantly understand what they were trying to convey. It didn't work for most of us (we weren't sad in universe, we were sad about the show and mostly rolling our eyes), but it is genuinely gratifying to see someone actually be in tune with the writing (while also still knowing what was absolutely nonsensical). You so clearly understand what the things they wanted and failed to get across to most of us, and in some way, it is a bit redemptive. Thank you so so much for this!

Khan Battle
>>89879677

This is typically the reaction I've seen in a few creators who started the show and finished as Season 8 came out without having time to marinate in the past seasons like most fans. I think that most of the longer-term fans for one, are less content with some of the subpar writing, but ALSO had their own ideas/wishes/desires that would not have come true despite how well any endings of the series were written.

Melanie Serra

I think you're biased because you love Dany so you don't take the time to really try to understand why Sansa (and other northerners) don't trust Dany. Or why Dany's behavior is problematic. Sansa doesn't look for the slightest excuse to denigrate Dany because she has understood who she is dealing with. It doesn't matter if it's Dany,Jon or whoever else ascends to the Throne,Sansa just wants the North to be independent and her family and people to be safe because she's seen what the people who have shown interest or had access to this kind of power have done to her family and what they are capable of. She had no intention of betraying her promise and confessing Jon's true identity to Tyrion She was willing to keep this information to herself and only reveal it at the last moment, after realizing that Tyrion feared Dany and maybe he could try to find a solution. Sansa has lived with monstrous people, capable of the worst things to have power and is now able to recognize them. Dany becomes dark from season to season. She never had a problem burning people, unleashing her dragons on them without caring if among the crowd there were innocent people. She never hid that she was ready to burn entire cities and kill anyone who stood in her way to get what she wanted. She is convinced that she acts for the greater good and that people should be grateful to her and submit to her.It was obvious that she was going to end up breaking down, committing the irreparable and starting to look more and more like the people against whom she had always fought.

suveemi

You think Dany is a good queen and really like her but you also said you want Jon to temper her worst impulses. Why do you think someone is fitting for this job if there needs to be a person to keep her in check ?