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Today I managed to solve all compatibility problems with 1201A and newer AGESA. No need to worry, everything is fine.AMD has made some changes to the SMU, fortunately they do not affect the quality of CTR.P.s. CTR 2.1 RC4 - March 31

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Henry Curtis Pelgrift

Hooray! Well done! Now the real question is whether AMD fixed things on their end for reals with the L3 cache issue and USB. They say they have, but I’m skeptical. 🤔

Mark Kohler

Yeah, I don't know what is worse? Still working on a stable BIOS five months after launch....or the fact that I still have not found one for sale five months after launch. Now ships are getting stuck in addition to the never ending COVID imbalance of supply and demand....Who would have thought the entire tech industry could be knocked back by a bad cold?

1usmus

Yes, these are terrible times...

Henry Curtis Pelgrift

At the very least, there’s four new chip fabs under construction in the US, and those will be ready by 2024, but if we export, no chokepoint waterways for our ships to get stuck on the way to Europe. Hopefully more fabs in Germany too! I’m also gonna guess when you say one, you’re talking about the 5900X that I too want. 😭

Mark Kohler

5800X only one that ever shows on Newegg for list. I've been trying the shuffle....but no luck. Yeah, would even pay for the 5950X at list...just will not pay the insane scalpers !!! ON TOPIC: GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO AC PATCH A BIOS F13h breaks CTR for sure(on 3600XT). Temps are way up and performance way down. So, good to here you are all on top of it ;)

Gabriel

Sweet now I can upgrade my BIOS finally :)

Dizziee

I can confirm, my LG 4K Brio now works on 4K, where before it would lose its mind and crash any program that had it loaded; especially Nvidia Broadcast. I have been testing the hell out of it and it seem fine. As for the L3 cache.... I never noticed a difference because it was already fast.

Henry Curtis Pelgrift

If you’re in the US, check Amazon for the 5600X as well as WalMart. They’ve definitely had it in stock more lately. The 5900X is still scare though. :/

Henry Curtis Pelgrift

How did you manage to get your hands on a BRIO?! I was looking for that for months! Nice though.

Norman P. Aquino

I'm in Asia. I managed to snag a 5900x from Newegg but at a $150 premium over MSRP. But in this part of the world, the concept of MSRP is alien to us.

Xdrqgol

you should never upgrade bios unless you: - experience issues - the upgrade brings a feature that you cannot continue use your computer without| if you are on a stable BIOS, you should always stay there.

1usmus

You are right. But I observe additional stability if using RC4 + AGESA 1.2.0.1A. Perhaps for some users this is a lifeline

1usmus

We have the same problem. The first month the 5950X was priced at $940, now the price in some stores is $1,500...

Gabriel

Mate, i have been using computers since a c64 and tandy coco and overclocking for over 25 years now. ;) The annoying usb issues alone are a big deal for me that is supposedly finally fixed.

Xdrqgol

I agree with this USB issue has been really bad ... Also, we can all agree that average Joe should stay away :P , unless we want to provide support in case the break something haha! Yes , true - well , we will follow Yuri’s recommendation if there is better stability in the newer Agesa then we can go with it... but FYI - from RAM OC from 3003 to the latest you lost 1.5 ns just doing the bios update similar to single thread performance ...and whoever is doing RAM tweaking / OC understands how difficult is to gain each 0.1ns

Gabriel

Yep I saw a drop in latency as well but oh well, I am more into the CTR CPU speed part and stability than the RAM specially with my 64GBs already limiting what I can do, I am happy I can even get to 1833 at C14 lol

Xdrqgol

Well you should have some pretty good latency 1833 C14 🤔 , what does AIDA benchmark tools says? I am interested :D

1usmus

"Yep I saw a drop in latency as well but oh well, I am more into the CTR CPU speed part and stability than the RAM specially with my 64GBs already limiting what I can do, I am happy I can even get to 1833 at C14 lol" In AIDA, the result is slightly lower because this test package loads the first core and this core does not always have the best CPPC rating, that is, this load is not typical.

Xdrqgol

@Yuri - What do you recommend to test latency if not AIDA?

Gabriel

I get any where from high 58s to more usually 60.x But sometimes it can hit 61-63 depending on services running.

Xdrqgol

hmmm... that is very high for running 1833 CL 14 .. I get 53.2ns .... 3800/1900 CL14

Gabriel

You are forgetting that 4x16GB is a whole different game plus 1900 is surely going to deliver better than 1833 and tighter timings that I can achieve with 64GB and not going too crazy on voltage though

Tom DePaolo

I updated to the latest ASUS bios "3603 beta" and CTR stopped working for me. It would open but profiles wouldn't work and diagnostic mode would only get to the first run of cb20 then hang. It was giving an address out of range error when I closed it also. I tried a fresh windows install and got the same issue. So I went back to 3405 and everything is fine again. I haven't tried the 3602 bios yet. Has anyone else had any issues with 3603?

1usmus

That's what my message said. There will be support now.

1usmus

@Xdrqgol SisoftSandra. Don't get me wrong, a synthetic test suite can never show how efficiently memory works in real applications. The best indicator is 3D mark time spy cpu. I always use it to measure real performance.

Shawn Tautfest

i feel like at this point with 5000 series still being somewhat new.. wouldn't you want to keep updating your bios for better compatibility/performance? (as long as they are not beta versions)

Krewd

Yeah but notice how none of them release detailed documentation with BIOS revisions. Its always "Implemented stability improvements" ...like WTF am I supposed to do with that? Gotta flash over just to see if I like their changes

Gabriel

What part of "Implemented stability improvements" sounds bad?

1usmus

In most cases, you must evaluate the changes yourself. Unfortunately, there are no detailed notes. There are general changes that are taking place thanks to AGESA, but this is a closed information

1usmus

These processors are "new" to AMD as well. They still have a lot of changes to make :)

Xdrqgol

@Gabriel Oh, my bad I read 1933 instead of 1833 🤦‍♂️ Sorry! Thanks @Yuri for the recommendation!

Tom DePaolo

So there will be support in the new release (RC4)? I misread it to mean RC3 has support for the new aegsa-patch a. Anyways, I flashed the 3603 1.2.0.1(not patch a) bios from asus and it works with CTR rc3 just fine.