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Cinebench R20 included. Before you use the new smart diagnostic, make sure you have curve disabled in the BIOS and DRAM OC must be stable.How to make a diagnosis & profile creation (VIDEO)How to activate profiles + quick performance test for PX and P1 profiles  (VIDEO)

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What's new? Please read the PDF document attached to this message.

• Prime95 30.6 build 4. Fixing Prime errors.• Updated more accurate OB diagnostics, you don't have to adjust anything. The OB values will be set for each profile + saved automatically.

• During the OB diagnostics information about CO (Curve Optimizer) coefficients is presented to the user. If for some reason you can not use CTR HYBRID OC - you have an alternative. Simply enter these CO coefficients in the BIOS. I know that there are some scripts that help find the CO. My solution is simpler, faster and more accurate. Why? I get an answer from SMU, i.e. the processor tells me which base curve it has and what it likes and what it doesn't like. For testing I also use AVX multi-core load. This allows me to get optimal results not only for each core individually, but also the result of interaction of all cores simultaneously. There are no alternatives to this function.

• Automatic update for CTR. Every time, when you start CTR, a secure TSL connection will be made to the github server where updates are stored. If an update is found, you will be notified. The process is fully automatic. After confirmation, the files are updated and the CTR is started.About the github server. It is protected from hacker attacks and also has anti-virus software. Your system will always be safe.

• Load type detection system. This system allows real-time dynamic profiles to change their settings for maximum stability and performance. Now you can find out which application uses FMA3 and which uses AVX1 (for example).

• The response speed of dynamic profiles has doubled. That is, the frequency change speed is 8ms instead of the usual 16ms. This allows you to increase or decrease the frequency faster in relation to load and conditions.

• Windows notification. If the CTR is minimized or minimized to the tray you will not miss important messages. In the bottom right corner you will receive different kinds of notifications. In most cases this information is not critical, but it is worth writing to Discord about it. At the moment there are compatibility problems with the following programs: AIDA 64 (blocks global PCI mutex), Aquaero(does not allow for the use of global PCI mutex), Corsair iCUE (does not allow for the use of global PCI mutex) and AMD Ryzen Master (does not use a secure connection to the SMU).

• EXTRA BOOST - superstructure for OB, which allows dynamic profiles to run at higher frequencies in SSE - AVX1 loads. On average this is an extra 25-50 MHz without increasing the voltages.

• Full adaptation to CPU LLC (Load Line Calibration) Auto. More stability and more performance if you use CPU LLC Auto. This is my new recommendation for RC6.

• This build also contains a huge number of stability fixes and improvements.

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I want to share the good news with you. There is a new project in development (no it is not CTR PRO). Its purpose is to automatically optimize Zen 3 and Zen 3+ processors. It will include all the most important and unique things that has CTR as well as get new features. This is a work on bugs and new more usable interface. CTR is a successful product and I do not want to stop there. I think that the community deserves to get more. Thanks to you I got a chance to develop CTR and I really hope that you will stay with me. I know that $15 is a significant amount of money for some users, so I have added a new early access plan for $10.Roughly the alpha version you will be able to see in the last days of June. CTR support is not finished and I plan to release a few updates (video too).Thank you for your support :)

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Special thanks to @Riwwelorsch, @Ann Martiné, @ACE, @arcanazen, @DayDreamer, @Gadfly, @rizlah , @&&Devin, @Bloax , @RdWing and @wanderinarcheologist  for help with development and testing RC6. 

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Doug Wilkinson

saturday afternoon CTR 'n Chill is the best

Russ Fowler

Nice one - well done to you and everybody involved

1usmus

I'm glad you like the project :)

1usmus

On the last day (today), Riwwelorsch found a bug that made PX unstable. I've been looking for it for months and finally a fix is included in this update.

Russ Fowler

Brilliant. Now, I’m just waiting for your message to sort out the 3800/1900 memory 😂

domdtxdissar

"Full adaptation to CPU LLC (Load Line Calibration) Auto. More stability and more performance if you use CPU LLC Auto. This is my new recommendation for RC6." On Asus x570 Crosshair VIII the LLC range goes from 1 to 5. 1 being the weakest while 5 is the strongest. LLC Auto is even weaker than LLC1... Iam getting above 8% vdroop and crashes. When you say u want us to use "LLC Auto" you want us to use something which give like 2-3% vdroop under maximum load correct ? (i use a 5950x not that it should matter)

iNerd

Huh? what did i missed? i run gskill 3800mhz with 1900blck

Michael

Same on MSI X 570. Have been using 3rd strongest llc level with prev versions with good success, same llc when using fixed clock withou ctr. For pbo without ctr, i was using 2nd or 3rd weakest before which worked well. Auto is even lower and didnt give great pbo results. Llc auto with rc6 is unstable.

boi

Same here with a Asus STRIX X570-i Gaming. Getting better results on LLC 3 vs Auto. With way less crashing

Morgan Ring

First version Ive used where it has crashed running userbenchmark. (Im no PC expert but I have installed CTR many times in the exact same way but for me this version has been unstable.) No biggie for me, just sharing my experience so far. Big thanks again as always for your work.

Marco Mannoni

Hi. Just installed and now I get randomly an error saying "A foreign program is trying to block CTR!" Can you tell me what that means?

Russ Fowler

I’m struggling to run my memory at 3800/1900. 1usmus will help - he’s been utter brilliant

shidemushi

Me same.For now I'm turning off only CTR notification with the function of windows cuz you know it's annoying.

James Tiller

I'm going to try my 2 hopefully tonight, if not then in the morning over coffee. One ASRock x570, One Dark Hero. 5800X and a 5950X. Will have a 3rd system fairly soon as well to test with. I am one that enjoys the testing and happy to be a part of this one then on to the next project when and if there is a next. Keep up the good work Yuri.

SpaceGhostC2C

I think CTR is great, thanks for all you do. I am now getting the most out of my MSI X570GL and 5950X I've moved past the diagnostics OC and have started setting up my own profile settings, i have a 2nd monitor that I can see what profiles are being trigger for each bench mark, I've adjusted voltages, and mghz to get the temps I wanted. Its a balancing act with the 5950X heat/power. Profile 1 I'm able to run prime95 short fttp's @ 4.5ghz 1.150v 0-OB 100% load no errors 75c, it came to a point that increasing the voltage didnt help with OC, only making more heat and errors. Profile 2 is mostley games/3d benchmarks/FireStrike, i've got that running 4.8ghz 1.335v 0-OB temps run about 50c PX profile runs 4.925 1.375v 50 OB here is my latest FireStrike 42,000 A new PB. https://www.3dmark.com/fs/25607921

Jamie Godwell

I'm getting way worse Px stability in this build compared to RC5v22 Even setting OB to 0mV to disable boost and trying to run single core CineR20 at 4.9ghz on my 5800x I get black screen crashing. Setting 4.8 with +100 boost seems to be running OK after some further poking, but I can't get anything past 4.9 reliably. My previous best was 4975 under RC5. Even tried setting mem overclock back to 3600 XMP with 1800 on IF but still super unstable past 4.9 in this version of CTR

Derève

yes , good job !

famich2005

My results: CPU is platinum sample , PX boost finally 4900, but OB testing for ascertaining OC values is, at least for me, useless, as the PC ultimately gives up and reboots without any meaningful result.

YUNSIK PARK

same here, the stability of the system seems to be weak

Michael Platz

Great Job 👍 Works fine for me. Just stable 👍

pannal

Hey, with this build I'm getting an enormous amount of "CTR WARNING; A foreign program is trying to block CTR!", which wasn't the case with the previous build, as well as a lot of those warnings in the log: PCI-MUTEX holding time has expired! Sending a command in an insecure way! Everything's stable otherwise. Apps running that might interfere: HWiNFO64, Argus Monitor.

1usmus

All previous versions loaded cores that should not be used for PX. I'm very surprised that fixing the global bug caused you a problem. Are you sure you have CPPCs enabled?

1usmus

Michael, you are a user who has his own computer. You can decide for yourself what you will use. You decide whether or not to take my advice. You decide what voltage to use. Why are your decisions a CTR problem? It is not a CTR problem but a problem of user inaction. If you like LLC3- use LLC3.

Cédric Petitcuenot

Thank you very much, for all this work and for the reduced price for people with more modest incomes especially with the covid.

Marco Mannoni

Yes, I have exactly the same errors

Jamie Godwell

I've followed the guides for bios settings pretty closely over the past few versions, CPPC should be on, 4950 was happily achievable on RC5, but with this version I immediately get Cinebench R20 failing to run single core from 4900+ Happy to try any suggestions you may have or share any details of my set up At this stage none of the calculated Px values from diag / calculate Px are usable

Jamie Godwell

I can't match these frequencies from RC5 in RC6: ***ClockTuner for Ryzen 2.1 RC5(ver.22) by 1usmus*** AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor GIGABYTE B550 VISION D BIOS ver. F13h SMU ver. 56.50.00 TABLE ver. 3672325 DRAM speed 3800 MHz 05/23/2021 22:04:56 P1 FREQ CCX1# 4600MHz VID# 1250mV Usage trigger# 81% OB CCX1# 60 OB CCX2# 1 P2 FREQ CCX1# 4700MHz VID# 1350mV Usage trigger# 52% OB CCX1# 60 OB CCX2# 1 PX FREQ HIGH# 4875MHz FREQ MID# 4775MHz FREQ LOW# 4675MHz VID HIGH# 1375mV VID MID# 1375mV VID LOW# 1350mV OB HIGH# 60 OB MID# 60 OB LOW# 60 Usage trigger# 18% PX OB LIMIT# 75MHz

Rory O'Donnell

fyi - ran the diagnostic and kept all settings as suggested by CTR (but have llc at RC5 level 3) and have had 4 reboots - one opening and explorer window in desktop and 3 in Doom Eternal - have gone back to RC5.22 to rerun

Mark Kohler

Several deleted posts. Just set BIOS to default settings and am getting better results than with CTR. Time to pull the plug on this waste of money. ...spent more than I pay for yearly subscription for software that mostly works ...

Andrej Vidmar

Why not tuning CRT manually? You can set higher voltages if u want... If you set 1.4V in BIOS set it in CRT too. I dont know what is your problem. You can do whatever you want. And this CRT software is awesome. In a 1/2 hour you can beat 5000mhz on ryzen 5 5600x. That is impossible with manual tuning in bios

Marco Mannoni

Yes, I had never ever a crash of my system the last 6 months. Since I updated yesterday CTR, I had 6 reboots and lost some work I did...

Michael

I am just trying to follow the guidelines for ctr. Before, high llc was recommended and so i used that with ctr, which was working well. The new recommended setting is auto llc if i understand correctly, so i wanted to try that out. Didn't work so well, so i report that here, thats all.

Mark Kohler

Latest version does not allow. Tune button is greyed out and will not respond...part of my post that was deleted. My 5800 runs best at 1.325 volt and 4775. CTR on last run suggested 1.35 and 4600, an obvious regression. All other versions allow tune after diagnostic...does not work on this version. On all previous version I am able to obtain 6000 to 6200 on Cinbench20...on this version more like 5700, which is lower than default setting....but I guess he is no longer interested in fixing bugs...just wants to hear self confirming posts.

Andrej Vidmar

You can tune under profiles. :) first run diagnostic. Then under p1 profile input 1325mv and frequency 4775. Then od the right side click calculate p1 profile. Then save and activate all profiles. It is all already written in manuals in pdf. I think that you are reading wrong values. 1.35 with 4600mhz is maybe p2 profile. And becouse of that you get bad scores in cinebench. For all cores you need to set p1 profile to your reference voltages and clocks.

Mark Kohler

that is absurd...it just gives the same value as the diagnostic. ...if I know from experience that 1.325 will run at above 4700, and all "tuning" in profiles respond with 4600...How is that "tuning", it is actually untuning...giving me results that I already know are in error is not what I expect from a tuning program.

boi

I'm am also experiencing a similar issue where PX is unstable. Even setting PX high on 4700 with zero OB (5900x) results in crashes during a Blender render. In Cinebench (R23 and R20) however, it is very stable. I can set PX High to what I usualy set it to which is 4850 with an OB of 54-63. Just reporting my experience here. Let me know if you need any more info.

Andrej Vidmar

check temperature, set higher max PPT, EDC, TDC. Maybe you are hitting limits. And maybe it is just not stable :) You can just input your numbers in p1 profile and save them without "tuning"

Andrej Vidmar

I am not an expert, but you can play with CRT. And it is hard to help you without seeing what is going on on your PC. But I can garantee you that this program is great. It is not flawless but this is all under development. Great job 1usmus and thanks for your commitment. 15€ per month is not for the product-app (CRT.exe). It is for supporting this program and developers.

Andrej Vidmar

But in this version if you input 4700mhz in p1 profile you actualy get much higher clock becouse of boost.... There was no OB and extra boost in previous versions... and PX profile is awesome. You cant do this in bios :)

Net30

Hey, never had this issue. But this version keeps crashing. This is after I run diagnostic. Save and activate program. I try to do anything and immediate restart. Edit looks like pci mutex error. Maybe icue. Any alternative to deleting icue?

Tom DePaolo

I don't know about anyone else but I am getting better results from the diagnostics with the new version. Testing with CCX2 25mhz higher than CCX1 to start out gives me a much closer result to the max stable settings I find manually. Also I'm seeing an extra 100pt cb20 score at 1175mv. Im not sure if the new version has less overhead or going from 2x8GB Gskill 4000cl15 @3733 to 2x16GB teampgroup 3600cl18 is why.

Riwwelorsch

What I have read in your posts is: You simply haven't understand what CTR is and how it works. Tuning is gone? Why do you want to tune? Zen3 = no tuning needed. Please make sure you read the manual before you start to blame people with nonsense.

Riwwelorsch

Make a screenshot of your ram settings and try a bios reset. Just use your old ram settings afterwards (if these are stable - important!).

Chua Eng Soon

You can disable notifications from tuning tab if you need these program running. As long as they don't cause crashes

Tom DePaolo

Ok, so during a testing run at 1325mv the system rebooted. Now Tuning is no longer available. I run diagnostic and it goes through all the motions and finally gives the cpu rating but the tune tab still is unavailable.

1usmus

Tom, сhanging the memory configuration can have a huge impact on the stability and performance of your CTR HYBRID OC. Unfortunately, after changing memory timings or changing frequencies you need a new diagnostics.

1usmus

Tuning is only relevant to Zen 2. No tuning is provided for Zen 3, it is not required. The diagnostic process creates profiles and creates an OB, which will back up the frequency offset. If you have CCX2 better than CCX1 - CTR will make CCX2 have a higher frequency.

Hannes Atze Nagel

I tryed diagnostics with the newest Version (RC6 v8) Today. The Diagnostics is Running till the end without any Problems, but it doesnt foll the PX Profile. High, Mid and Low mhz are still 0 after the Diagnostics. Has anyone had the same problem? System: Gigabyte 570X Aorus Ultra Ryzen 7 5800X (Golden Sample)

Mark Kohler

Yeah, the TESLA defender. Me: I am offended they never live up to promise. TESLA defender: you just don't understand the importance of project. Me: yes, I understand, but still offended that it does not live up to promise. (No 35k car, no self driving...billions and billions of tax dollars and only toys for rich people) SAME HERE (smaller scale) Yes I understand how it should work...you ignore my posts indicating such and defend how you are fine with how it actually sort of works (nothing like promised or how it worked in the past)

Mark Kohler

PS Why do you want to tune? Zen3 = no tuning needed. Why? Because the results with this version are much worse than previous versions by all metrics, clock speed, testing results, and system responsiveness, and game play....So, if you are OK with the lower results that is great, but it is exactly the opposite of why I would choose to run the program.

Mark Kohler

15€ per month is not for the product-app (CRT.exe). It is for supporting this program and developers....Yes I know. But the diminishing returns remain. After a year at $15 what do you have? Perhaps a program that improves your CPU by 10%...that same $180 could have been spent to buy a better CPU (Previous to current silica shortage)...double the processing cores will always win out over software optimizations...The reason AMD only spends so much on their OC software.

Riwwelorsch

If you get lower results, you must have done something wrong or you configured your bios not the way its meant to be. Almost everyone get better results, but of course it has to be the app that's faulty... And as you like car examples: only the wrong way driver thinks that all others are wrong way drivers... :-) You can join on discord and we can have a look at your logs and if we can do something. But its not productive to blame the app without evidence here on patreon.

Mark Kohler

Right, nothing changed in BIOS, Nothing changed in cooling, no change in memory....all exactly same. Difference is only in running different versions of this program...I've been doing this since the 1980's...I was probably OC AMD CPU before you were born...but yeah, I am sure that I am confused.

Riwwelorsch

So you know how old I am... Interesting. But for sure you are not acting like a person of the age you claim for yourself. As i said, join discord and we will have a look. Otherwise please cancel your subscription if you are not able to understand that's a continuous development process and you are in a early access programm which doesn't guarantee a increase in performance with every release. Be productive and accept the willing to get helped, or continue to act like this and get ignored. It's your choice

Mark Kohler

Yes, 57 with degree in Materials science and lifetime of computer enthusiast experience. But, yes, I will vote with my feet. It is clear that the Apple/Tesla defensive attitude/cult has taken over any here. User is always wrong...we know better...you are confused. I have heard it a million times before. I was hoping for better and have given up on the irrational hope. You are entirely correct.

Mark Kohler

The only response you will get here is that it is all in your imagination...que video of Steve Jobs holding i-phone with two finger at precarious points to avoid obvious defect..."you just aren't holding the phone right".

Riwwelorsch

Great that you continue to spread your nonsense instead of getting help... Sorry, but this is just idiotic

1usmus

Andrej, he doesn't want to do that. There are users who believe that the program is capable of guessing thoughts.

1usmus

First of all, there's already a discount (-33%), and secondly, you buy the game for $60 and forget about it in a week. Here you get a permanent performance boost. During diagnostics you get 2 important values, which are the base frequency and the OB. The dynamic frequency change is controlled by the OB. This is absolutely the same as what exists in any processor, the base frequency and the boost.

1usmus

@Hannes If you have an empty PX profile, click "CALCALATE PX PROFILE". There is also a video demonstration of how to do this (attached to this post).

1usmus

Please, describe when it happened.

1usmus

There are no platinum samples among users. This bug was present in early versions of CTR. The reboot process during diagnostics is natural. All important data is saved automatically. Please see the video guide.

84wayz

Hello there, want to give a shoutout to Yuri. Thank you for the great work , time and effort you give. I haven't been able to do any updates since RC5 V.15 , but flawlessly got the RC6 running and it's running very well!

James Tiller

Something up with mine this time. Deleting old, clearing config, then hitting diagnostics and CTR says CB is started but it never opens and CTR just sits there indefinitely. Going to check if there is something outside of CTR but RC5 worked. tbc...

Rory O'Donnell

I've a 5950x and rc6 gave me 4900 max px2 boost and around 75 55 55 ob for px profile. Also, the mhz delta went from usual 75mhz to 125mhz.

Hannes Atze Nagel

Thanks for your advice! I already tryed to use the 'Calculate PX' button with the same Result - none. All older Versions of CTR are working fine and if i copy the profiles Folder from the last Version to the newest, it also works. But it doesn't save the fill the Profiles by itself after Diagnostics/Calculating.

Rory O'Donnell

...also note after the 2nd crash, I updated px high from 4900 to 4800 and it crashed almost immediately when hitting save, opened up CTR and set back to 4800 the 4th occurrence happened shortly thereafter playing doom

PewWORKS TV

This is not an user decision only Yuri, if you recommend LLC Auto, people will try Auto settings to match your recomendation and get better performance but if your recomendation is bad and many people have more unstable profiles now, this is CTR fault because your recomendation doesnt work

PewWORKS TV

Autoload profile with OS is fixed on this version, also Diagnostic runs until the end fine now but... this version is super unstable, both default PX profiles are black screen crashing (AVX and MIX) with extra boost enabled and disabled, P1 and P2 diagnostic calculation is much lower than RC5 (my P2 went from 4400 calculation down to 4100 and P1 from 4100 to 3900...) I will return back to RC5 even if it still have the autoload with OS not working but at least is stable.

Jake Mormile

It's pretty simple though really - I tried it with auto and found my system was unstable, and profiles were sitting 100-200mhz below what they were set to. Switched back to LLC turbo, everything runs great. Not everyone's system and setup is the same, so find out what works for you.

Brandon C

before and after results screen doesnt show for me in the last couple versions. i tried updating everything. anyone know?

Friday

same here. 2 trys with fresh profiles, diagnosting and calculating OB. Frequencys are up to 50Mhz higher, but its really unstable. Falling back to RC5 v22 which runs rocksolid since release with nearly nothing to adjust after automatic diagnosis. 5900x Golden Sample

chrom

just chiming in to say thanks for your hard work, this version allowed me to get another 50mhz for my 5600x on PX high while gaming. sadly, it's not all good news. i get random restarts after 5-10 min of office work (microsoft word, browser and adobe reader open, nothing else). not even soft restarts from windows, but straight up blackscreens into rebooting. it happens with every configuration if I have PX enabled, even if I turn down all mhz values by 50 and set OB to 0. during gaming it's perfectly stable for hours. temps are absolutely fine, my ram runs at 3600/1800 and passed 12h without errors in karhu, so it can't be that. idk if it has something to do with how often CTR switches between idle and PX state and I know some people had idle restarts before, but it's never been as bad as it is now for me personally. for now i always disable PX while working and enable it for gaming, but that's not a long-term-solution in my opinion. again, i really appreciate the amount of work you are putting into this, just wanted to let you know about my experience with the latest version.

K S

Why did you delete my post Yuri?

Shinigami_de

Does anyone know if the debug output is triggered in the same way in RC6 as in RC5 v21 when overshooting PPT? I'm currently trying to make sense, why I'm getting a PPT of ~220W for a brief moment triggering the debug output when running CB20 in a loop on my 5950x. It's always at the start of a render, when CTR is switching from PX High/Mid to P1 and it seems it briefly runs all cores with the PX Voltages (1.375 / 1.35). Never seen this output or power draw with exactly the same profile in RC5 v21 where everything is rock stable. Could also be related to the sporadic/random reboots I'm getting with RC6. Anyways, I'll fiddle around a bit more. Still very good results with CTR and thanks for all the work Yuri :)

Shawn Tautfest

mine keeps crashing when i try to play games now =/ didnt on the last version. i was super stoked about all the updates too!

Ismet Togay

I am encountering so many reboots even after using the default CTR settings. I have 5950x (April-2021 batch group) and Asus Dark Hero (latest bios). I am using one of the top CPU cooling solutions (Noctua NH-D15). I don't have any heating issue. I watched the tutorial videos multiple times and followed each and every direction about BIOS settings and CTR settings. I am not using any hardware sensor monitoring software. I have a clean installed Windows 10 (incl. latest updates). I really liked the idea behind CTR but it doesn't work properly for me. :(