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Stargazer1682

Buffy the Vampire Slayer - the show where the only reason a character gets to go to heaven is because it'll be that much worse when their friends pull them back.

HuntingSwan

Awww I love how invested you are in Buffy's struggles! It's allowing me to relive my own feelings about it. Season 6 is so deep, I love it.

Stargazer1682

At the risk of this being a Bike shitpost, I do like to point out something with Spike and how he was processing (or not processing) Buffy's death. First and foremost, he was counting the days she was gone, but to what end? He had no reason to think she'd come back, so would he have kept counting indefinitely? He was also replaying the moment she died, giving it a happier outcome; which conventionally would be sweet and all - but there's an important thing to keep in mind: Being a vampire, Spike can't experience guilt without a soul. This is well established with Angel and Darla; especially during the previous season on Angel. Vampires work on the pain/pleasure principal. What makes me happy, what makes me sad. Buffy makes Spike happy, Buffy went away; so understandably Spike would feel pain about Buffy's death. Spike can also objectively know that he failed to protect Dawn, which would have avoided Buffy's death, but without a soul he can't feel guilty, so he can't correlate those two points, the pain and the inaction. I mean, imagine what that would have to be like, to get so near feeling guilt, know that there's something missing in between, but you just can't connect the dots. He's trying to reconciling these two conflicting ideas; and without guilt he can't, which means he can't cope; and he ends up stuck in this feedback loop, dwelling on mundane details, like how long she's been gone, fantasizing about a better outcome, and protecting Dawn, even when there's no apparent threat where she needs protection, whether she wants it or not. And that last point is key (no pun intended). Spike even becomes angry, if albeit momentarily, when Dawn suggests he leave. He can't risk failing to live up to the promise he made to Buffy; not again. It doesn't matter Buffy's no longer around to be let down by him. But, here's the question - what happens if Buffy hadn't come back? How long does Spike continue watching Dawn? At what point does she finally get a say in whether she can stay home alone? Would he eventually let her go hang out with friends? Go out to date? Go to college? Move away from Sunnydale and generally live her life? Or does he become more protective of her? She's his last living link to Buffy. She even looks a bit like Buffy. To a vampire, maybe she even smells a bit like Buffy. Does Spike's fixation on Buffy eventually get transferred to Dawn? Does he ultimately conclude that, because he can't protect her during the day if she goes outside, she can't leave the house at all during the day? And if she's only going out at night, what he just turned her; and then she'd be strong and able to protect herself, and they could be together forever...

zerofk

The way Dawn takes care of Buffy near the beginning of the episode is very touching. It's an inversion of the norm - much like a child taking care of their parent. I love the way Michelle Trachtenberg acted in that scene: somewhat uncomfortable but very loving.

Raven Dark

Love this reaction so much. Seeing reactors watch the ending scene never gets old. Welcome to Buffy. The world of pain. :D

Stargazer1682

Why do I feel like this will be your next interaction with Domi? Domi: So, what happened in the latest episode of season 6? Lexi: Hmm? Domi: Season 6? OF Buffy? Lexi: Umm, I've forgotten how to speak English. Domi: What? Lexi: Yeah, I've completely forgotten how to speak English. Domi: English. Lexi: Yes. I meant to tell you, but since I forgot.... 🤷‍♂️ Domi: You're speaking English right now. Lexi: Am I? No, you're mistaken, because I've forgotten how to speak English. (Awkward pause. Domi's confused) Lexi: Did you know Ben is Glory?

Kate

Oh no, I think I'm partly to blame for Domi's questioning. On her 5x22 post I tried non-spoily prep her for the tone in s6 and it couldn't have helped the curiosity..... Lol and Giles just left for England like 12 hrs before the start of the episode! Give the man a few days to sleep first ;)

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

There's only one thing worse than seeing 'Special Guest Star Anthony Stewart Head' and that's NOT seeing it :'(

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

Another S-tier performance from SMG with James coming in a strong second, and the two of them together are just amazeballs. Multiple shots of Buffy's face towards the end of the episode and you can all but hear a huge inner sigh that's an equal mix of defeat and squaring herself up to do it all over again. The burden of not just being the Slayer and protecting her friends but also having to put up that brave front just became infinitely worse. Heartbreaking stuff.

Midnight Crypt Worx

I love the conversation between Dawn and Buffy when Dawn forgot her lunch. That was the moment that Buffy decided to lie to her friends. "Now they can see you happy. It's all they want" I can't imagine how much pressure was put on poor Buffy. She basically had to lie to them. And at the same time put on a fake smile and attitude so they wouldn't feel guilty when this is their fault to begin with. lol. Mostly Willow though. Willow is one of my favorite characters of all time, but she is starting to make me worry about her decisions a little bit. <3

Adoreandu

"How is it just never the fun drama?" rofl

Adoreandu

I feel like Buffy feels more comfortable around Spike than her friends in this episode because he and Dawn are the only ones not, like, crowding her, or expecting her to be ok. Dawn and Spike are both being very gentle and undemanding with her, while the four friends are all over her, to the point that Dawn has to yell at them to back off. But Dawn is still so young, Buffy couldn't confide in her something that heavy, and Giles isn't there, so Spike is the only one she can talk to. Who is actually listening to her instead of just projecting their own desire for her to be alive and well and grateful for it.

Adoreandu

Also, Spike this episode is behaving more like William, the man he was before he turned. If you watch again that episode with the Spike flashbacks.

Phoenix Dawn

Sigh. Did you think the show would stop torturing Buffy?! :p Death was her gift, remember?

rattusprat

The show makes you empathize with Buffy in the strangest of ways.... Buffy can't tell her friends how traumatic her current life is, just like you can't tell Domi how traumatic the start of Season 6 is. Fun times.

Bud Haven

It's never a good sign when the first thing the person you resurrected does is try to kill themself.

The Tip of the Iceburg

I couldn't help but laugh the with the whole first part of this season while watching you talk about us going to a hell dimension. I'm like she has no idea and she is going to be speechless when she finds out where buffy actually was. Oh and loved the green!! With the shirt and all, it was really awesome.

Florence

Personally I think Buffy tells Spike because he's the only one she doesn't feel a sense of duty towards so she doesn't have to protect him from the truth. Plus, it's got to be easier to tell one person who isn't going to tell anyone rather than having to deal with the reactions of multiple people. Poor Buffy.

Robin Davies

Buffy's revelation that she was in heaven is foreshadowed at 31.17 when we see her in the graveyard with angel's wings.

Rio de Tanana

Been catching up. What’s with all the “who gets killed next” stuff? The show is a tad more than that.