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Buffy 6x7 - full reaction (Patreon)

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2022-11-09 17:00:10
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i may have found my new favorite episode

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Eric Henning - Believe the Magic™️

Fun facts: The Mustard guy is David Fury, and the Parking Ticket lady is Marti Noxon, who were both major writers and producers on the show. Also: 14 distinct songs in this episode. The soundtrack album for “Once More With Feeling,” which includes extras such as incidental music from “Hush,” it on all streaming platforms.

Cory James

I love this episode so I am leaving this comment before I watch it because you mentioned Willow not having to look up the spell for Tara meaning she already knew it. I would say that it was already foreshadowed that she's done this spell on Tara before already because she says that Giles and Tara are talking behind her back in the last episode and Tara says something like "no never" because she doesn't remember talking to Giles about it because Willow erased anything to do with her being upset about Willow's magic use.

Todd Bolton

I think Giles’s “standing in the way” song makes total sense, especially the part about “the cries around you, you don’t hear at all”. However, I think that the new information about her having been in heaven should have caused him to reconsider, and refusing to help her rescue Dawn did seem different from his concerns in the song. He wasn’t singing that she should start to do everything on her own. But that decision at the moment can be understood by thinking he had decided that something different needed to be done and then he mistakenly put his foot down at the wrong moment. That seems like human nature and he recovers his senses quickly enough, after just enough time to give Buffy a chance to start the song. As to whether he does right, afterwards, relating to the new information, well, I let those who know how it goes from here on out decide. Those saying that Giles wants his own life, I think are off track. His fatherly love for Buffy has been established throughout the show. It isn’t about Buffy as a “job” or his own desire for “a life” – it is about what he thinks is right for Buffy (his love for her as a daughter). As to whether he did what was right, or not, is a different story. (I have more problems with Giles in season seven than with any other character. I mean by that – Giles, as portrayed, not the writing. I have very few problems with the writing in BtVS, especially in the last three seasons.) Buffy being in slow motion during Giles’s song shows she was out of sync, and gives a visual aid, showing she’s not hearing what’s going on around her. Her not hearing Giles is actually a good defense of his reasons to leave: the cries around you, you don’t hear at all.

Britney

So happy you finally made it to this one! It's my favorite episode in season 6 and my second favorite episode of the whole show (my favorite being Hush from season 4, but this isn't far behind). I love how it's not just a filler episode, but all of the songs/lyrics have meaning and move the story along. The cast and crew did a phenomenal job. Also, shout out to Hinton Battle who played Sweet the demon. He was amazing! The DVD's have a behind the scenes featurette for this episode, which someone also uploaded to YouTube. You should totally watch it! (Just search Once more with feeling behind the scenes) It's 28 minutes long and shows the cast recording their songs, learning choreography, and filming some of the scenes. It's so cool to see the work that went into this.

Collinson

Yes! Love this episode! It won an Emmy for Outstanding Music Direction and it is considered THE TV musical episode. If you've seen any other TV show do a musical episode it was inspired by this episode. I also love how the musical element isn't just a gimmick but has so much character development and story progression.

Adoreandu

Finally! OMG yes yes yes!

Samuel Rüegger

All Time Favorite, looking forward to seeing your reaction tonight

Shelly

Random thought but Dawn's stealing always occurs after she's barely acknowledged by her family and friends. She runs in with excitement and nobody even looks at her until she says something ridiculous. She basically has a neon sign on her that says PAY ATTENTION TO ME and no one sees it.

Adoreandu

Re: when characters can or can't hear somebody else's song; it should be clear by now that BTVS magic system is very soft. Vampires either catch on fire instantly if they're under sunlight or smolder for ages, or can just use a blanket to run across town. Staking either causes instant poofing or gives them enough time for a last word, etc. It really depends on what the story needs to convey meaning and emotion. So why didn't Buffy hear Giles' whole song? Why didn't either Buffy or Willow hear Tara and Giles singing just a few feet away from them? Because they aren't listening. They're detached and just don't listen to what they don't wanna hear. And that's why Giles and Tara need to leave.

Mysthe

Ah my favourite episode! I love the songs, I love how it goes inside the story and how characters sing things they couldn't tell in regular dialogues.

zerofk

As always with Whedon written and directed episodes, there is an incredible amount of details to analyse. When Buffy starts singing "What can't we face if we're together?", Giles is the last one to join in. Even during all this, he feels something is off. As much as I adore Tara, it's true that Willow made her blossom. Tara was shy when they met, now she's shining brightly. When Giles, Anya, and Xander are talking in the streets there are three street sweepers dancing behind them. They are the same actors/dancers who play the three henchmen. There is so much more that I'm sure others will point out. Every now and then a post shows up on some social media platform saying that musical episodes suck. And one of the top replies is *always* that OMWF is amazing.

HuntingSwan

Wonderful reaction! I agree so much about Giles's attitude being annoying and stupid. This is why I came up with my own theory about his Ben guilt making staying in Sunnydale tough. Cos, honestly, it makes me not like Giles to believe the reasons he presents here, and I don't want to dislike Giles! I'm glad you loved the episode! It only gets better the more you rewatch it and can sing along :)

Emily Brown

I had to pause because I was laughing so hard when you said "it seems like she's going to burst into song" and then one second later she burst into song

Chas Summers

You looked confused by, "Dawn's in trouble. It must be Tuesday." The show aired on network tv on Tuesdays.

Florence

I feel like this episode is just the epitome of Buffy - brilliant and heartbreaking

Raven Dark

I waited so long for the reaction to this episode, and you did not disappoint, Lexi. What a fun ride. And I couldn't wait to see you react to Giles singing. You know, because you're such a hoe for Giles. Your words, not mine. :D I love this episode so much, and I'm so, so glad you did too.

Stargazer1682

Of course now, you will never again be able to hear or say, "I've got a theory" without finishing it with, "that it's a demon. A dancing demon. No, something isn't right there..."

Raven Dark

Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention, the guy near the start who said "They got the mustard out," was David Fury, one of the writers, and the woman who was singing about the parking ticket was Marti Noxon, another writer for the show.

Stargazer1682

The thing I feel people overlook when trying to parse out with who can hear what, when, is that by invoking Sweet (the dancing demon) it's not just making people sing; it's the full blown musical treatment. And by virtue of that, that means that asides and "stage whispers" become possible; deliveries which, on a stage are meant to be audible only the character saying it and to the audience, whom they character doesn't generally know is there. But that doesn't preclude times when the song is meant to be shared with the people around them. I think I might liken it to Willow's "thy will be done" spell; it's not strictly imposing other people's wills on each other, but it is taking into account the intent of what they're singing. In Xander and Anya's case, they're singing about open secrets between them, some of which they may not necessarily openly acknowledge, even with each other, but it's things they're not unwilling to say to one another. Meanwhile, Giles' solo is straight from his inner monologue, as he's thinking about what Buffy needs and what he needs to do; and he's working it out, but he's not willing to share it with her yet; and part of it even is, she's not willing to hear him saying, so she doesn't.

Robin Davies

There’s so much great stuff in this episode that Xander’s joke at the beginning gets forgotten. “Respect the cruller – and tame the doughnut!” is a reference to the very naughty slogan of the ghastly motivational speaker played by Tom Cruise in the film Magnolia. If you want to see the original scene look up "Tom Cruise Magnolia" on YouTube. (Warning - strong language!)

Stargazer1682

It is so refreshing to see someone with an objective perspective about how toxic a Buffy and Spike ship would be

Chris Peacock

This is my favorite episode of ANY show. Love it so much.

Midnight Crypt Worx

Yayyy! So singing along lol such a dork..had this on cd. The song where Buffy is talking about how she can't feel anything, she touches fire but it's cold. Could this be something wrong with the spell of resurrection? Or is that just a thing that would happen if you were resurrected? I'd love your theories. <3

Collinson

Ok second comment now I've watched the reaction. Alyson Hannigan actually asked to not have to sing a full song in this episode as she hates singing so you were right about that. Also Michelle Trachtenberg wasn't keen on singing but liked dancing so asked for a dance scene. I think with Giles it's the time every parent experiences. At some point you have to let your child find their own way and stand on their own feet. If you keep coddling them they never learn how to fend for themselves and that's the problem Giles finds himself in. As for the why certain songs were heard and others weren't I think it's.. magic... I think that's the loop hole the show goes for. Xanda and Anya I think they chose a very traditional vibe for their very un traditional relationship on purpose. The song and dress was very 50's old school look to explore how unconventional their relationship is and how they both worry about it. I also wanted to note that they had Producers and writers appear. The "I got the mustard out!" guy was David Fury a writer and producer on Buffy and the woman pleading with the parking ticket guy was writer and producer Marti Noxon.

Teresa Schultz

This is my favorite episode and your reaction was amazing. I almost died when you said it sounds like she’s about to burst into song. Looks like all of the interesting facts have been covered. I only have one more that I find interesting and really cool. SMG was not comfortable singing and wanted someone else to sing her parts until she found out she would be revealing that she was in heaven. She is so committed to the character that she chose to sing despite not being comfortable (and I think she did a great job)!

Alex

I always enjoy your reactions because of your insightfulness and adoration for these characters, but this reaction / analysis was particularly perceptive, especially for a first-time watch. Glad you loved it, and thanks for sharing!

Stargazer1682

I completely agree with you about Giles. There's some questionable writing, for bts reasons that can be better explained later. Yes, he's always wanted to help and support Buffy as often as possible; and there was the comic scene of him coming running with all of the weapons in season 4, after trying to let her solve her problems on her own. But then we have "Tough Love" just last season where Buffy tries to pass the buck with Dawn to Giles and he firmly tells her that SHE needs to be the one do these things. Giles is an intelligent, mature adult who should know where to draw the line between when he should and shouldn't help Buffy; especially since he's done it before. It's also something countless parents do in real life all the time. And really, it's coming out of what? Her leaving to see Angel at the exact moment Giles wanted to talk to her about finances; and her brushing off talking to Dawn about Halloween. The former is kind of a minor point. The financial discussions could wait a few hours or a day while Buffy sees Angel. Coming back from the dead is a pretty big deal (for non-vampires) and obviously Giles dropped everything, put his life in England on hold and caught the first flight back to Sunnydale the instant he got the news. Why should Buffy and Angel be expected to do any less? The thing with Dawn was just dumb. Buffy scurries upstairs and Giles doesn't say a thing? He then asks her about it and when she says, "I thought you were going to talk to her," all he says is, "right"?? Jesus Christ man, she can't read your mind (anymore), you need to tell her the things that are unsettling you if you expect her to do anything different!! It's so fucking frustrating.

Stargazer1682

James has talked about how, when Joss first presented the idea to them, the cast was terrified, since only James and Tony had any extensive musical background; and James was convinced it would actually hurt their careers. Especially when they heard the demo recordings Joss made of himself singing the songs; since Joss isn't, I guess, a strong singer; the demo's didn't have the polish that the end product would have. They shot the scene with Any and Xander singing "I'll Never Tell" first and showed the cast the dailies, and at that point their fears were dispelled. Sarah, not having a singing background, wanted to ensure she did a good job and hired two vocal coaches

Bud Haven

This seems like Buffy's second suicide attempt of the season, with Buffy dancing her way on fire and Spike stopping her . Luckily Spike would rather kiss our suicidal superhero than kill her these days. lol

The Suburban Big Man

Yeah, the show's new network, the UPN, did not care if the show had same-sex relationships showing affection on-screen.

Britney

Oh, by the way, Lexi... I've been meaning to ask... When you're done with Buffy or whenever you have time in your schedule, could you consider reacting to the original Charmed if you haven't seen it already? It's similar to Buffy and aired during the same time period. Buffy and Charmed were my two favorites when I was growing up.

Stargazer1682

You should do a reaction to Joss' web original "Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along-Blog" (along with the... Special DVD Commentary)

UTU49

About characters being able to hear each other's singing. Remember the convention in musicals: Which is that there are no conventions. Characters can hear or not hear other people singing, as is convenient to the plot.

John Alexander

Fun fact: the young lady dancing barefoot to the right of Tara during "Under Your Spell" is Maurissa Tancharoen, Joss Whedon's sister-in-law & one of the original showrunners for Agents of SHIELD.

Rio de Tanana

Helps to be an older adult to understand why Giles is doing what he is. Actually raising another person or being responsible for one, changes everything. He’s not her emotional support pet. He’s the one responsible for making sure she can do her JOB. It also helps if you actually listen to the lyrics. The man is grieving. Too bad reactors feel obligated to talk over the songs. They miss a lot.

Janel Davis

I really appreciate you sharing your perspectives with us! A lot of fans feel that Giles' motivations don't make sense here, but for me, it always made perfect sense. We've seen many times that Giles has struggled with wanting a normal life, just like Buffy does. And as much as he was grieving for the loss of her, I'm sure a part of him was also a little relieved that his obligation to the cause was finally over. I mean, when he signed up, he never would have expected that he'd be doing it this long. Slayers are only supposed to last a couple of years at most. So, yes, his justifications are super contrived and don't hold up to logic, but him needing to invent justifications so he could convince himself it was ok to leave always made sense to me. I love your reactions! Thanks for sharing with us!