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Angel 3x11 - full reaction (Patreon)

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2022-12-11 17:01:00
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2026-06
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SHE'S A DEMON????

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Stargazer1682

I feel like I'm just a downer on a lot of these episodes lately, but this episode frustrates me. It took a long time to put my finger on what bothers me about it, and it's just so... incoherent. The episode tries to do a lot of different things, and then ends up pulling their punches on all of them. The "It's a Wonderful Cordelia Life" concept could have been really good, right up there with "The Wish," but they take too long to set it up and then basically abandon it. There's no reason for Cordelia to want to go to the Hyperion. It's dubious the Hyperion would now be a working hotel in this timeline, with the slight caveat that Angel managed to still get rid of the Thesulac, but instead of setting up shop there, people apparently figured out it was safe to operate a hotel there now... 🤷‍♂️ But the writing on the wall shouldn't exist in this timeline, because she was never there to write it. And the vision Cordy originally has is this girl summoning a demon, but it apparently only happens in this alternate timeline (because when she wakes up, they no longer have to help her) which only exists because Cordelia had the vision about it... 🤔🤨🤷‍♂️ Wesley losing an arm in this timeline is interesting, but why is Angel driven insane by the visions, if the whole point is only demons are capable of carrying the visions? But that ignores the fact that Doyle was also part demon, and the visions still hurt him....😒 But Angel was able to function with the visions long enough to recruit Wesley and Gunn (and presumably kill the Thesulac), but not rescue Fred. But then on top of all of it, why are Cordelia's only two choices death or become a demon? That's not much of a choice. Why isn't one of the choices to just not have the visions? People like to talk about this episode as a demonstration of just how far Cordelia's character has evolved since Buffy, which she has. And if they had dove headlong into the alternate reality story more, that probably would have been a great exploration and contrast; if Cordelia, as she was right at the end of season 3, moved to LA, spent a few months slumming it, before hitting it big and effectively got to go back to her life of wealth and comfort. To see a full character regression like that and give THAT up would have been a much more powerful reminder of how far she's come. But I think having the choice of staying human and just not having the visions anymore should have been on the table. For one thing, they haven't used her visions the way did in season 1 and season 2. They haven't needed that plot device to move the story forward. They also have Lorne now, who kind of makes that power a little redundant. Most importantly though is Cordelia's impression that having the visions is the only thing of value she brings to AI. She's said it before and it's believable fear for Cordelia to have, but it's also one that should be addressed by her discovering that she can be of value to the team without her visions; which the alternate timeline could have also helped demonstrate, when she's helping the alt Angel Investigations team without the visions.

Stargazer1682

Squee, Aimee Garcia as the teenage girl summoning the demon! It took me so long to recognize her. She's practically ageless now (surprised the hell out of me that she's actually older than me) and here she practically looks like a baby!

Clara V.

The thing to understand about this episode's logic is that there was no time traveling, there are no two seperate timelines. The Powers That Be didn't change the past at all, they changed the world as it existed on Cordy's birthday and changed everyone's memories to fit that. Angel destroying the Thesulac still happened and that's why people can live in the hotel but no one remembers it, Cordy leaving the note still happened and when the world is changed back, the girl being saved still happened. (Of course, they could have erased Cordy's writing if they chose to, why they didn't is up to interpretation)

zerofk

I disagree with your assessment of early Cordelia. I believe she was always this person, even back in the early seasons of Buffy. She had put up a front of the popular mean girl, but whenever it really mattered she helped. In Helpless when Buffy asked Cordelia to drive her home, she just said "okay." No backtalk, no quips. Other times she complained for sure, but she would still always help out. One thing I don't like is the scene where Cordelia hears Angel talk to the Powers, and immediately changes her mind. I'm guessing a lot of people like that bit, but to me it grates - both Angel saying it and Cordelia's reaction. Other than that though, great episode.

Adoreandu

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