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Angel 3x18 - full reaction (Patreon)

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2023-01-29 17:00:05
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2026-06
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can i please get through an episode without crying

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Salix

Get through an episode without crying in a buffyverse show 🤔. Nope. Sorry.

Stargazer1682

Damn, Lexi, you wondering if you have object permanence for not thinking about Cordelia was brilliant. Loved that comment.

Stargazer1682

I think there's some potentially interesting philosophical nuance to the idea of both "giving your soul" to a person, and signing it away to someone to eat it; even within the context of how the Buffyverse has defined a soul. Angel the Series has pretty much maintained the soul as an abstract concept. Vital part of a person's core being, yet it's not one's consciousness. The kid from "I've Got You Under My Skin" was a living, breathing human, with memories and personality, but he had no soul. While Darla felt the effects of Connor's soul while she was pregnant with him, and it wasn't inherently different from her experience with her own soul when she had become human again. Carpe Noctem showed that the consciousness itself could move between bodies, setting it up as its own separate supernatural energy matrix, which presumably is the part of Buffy that went to heaven. So the soul is something else, it's the thing that allows a person to connect with other people, and possess the capacity for empathy and apply morality. If Jenoff consumes a soul, conceivably there'd be nothing left of it - your humanity is gone, forever. *But* - that doesn't mean Gunn would be dead. Would that have made him evil? Quite possibly. Assuming Jenoff or his lackey don't subsequently kill him, not because they have to, but because they want to. The so-called "Repo Demon" says, "Jenoff lets me have the bodies when he's done with 'em." So even though Gunn signed away his soul, it's much more than that, but Gunn saw no future for himself and didn't care when he made the deal. He probably thought a vampire or something would kill him long before he'd have to worry about that. As for giving his soul to Fred, I think there's some great abstractedness about that. I could kind of picture it as this energy or aura emanating out from each person who has a soul; and when you find someone you want to "give" your soul to, it's not a literal transfer from one to the other. Rather, there's this etherical interaction of the two souls, connecting, interacting, forming a bond. Which, if one soul has been effectively sold off to someone else, that conceivably becomes a problem for the one who bought it. But outside of that, the idea on the whole is beautiful. If a soul gives one the capacity to connect with people, then that level of interaction might lead to a sort of etherical harmony, where you achieve peak connectivity. When you're not with the person you've formed that bond with, you feel less than whole. If the relationship ends, if they break your heart, the souls are weakened and it takes time to adjust and replenish the soul. When two people - with or without that that connection, ostensibly - create a child, then a piece of their own respective souls combine to form a new one, that exists within that child.

zerofk

Aww poor Lexi, that was a lot of crying. But Gunn's fine, and still together with Fred! (Although I still think Gunn and Cordelia belong together.) This is an okay-ish episode for me. Not bad, but not great either. I think it has to do with both the monster of the week being underwhelming, and there being too many disparate threads happening at once. It doesn't feel like a cohesive whole. I have to say though, Groo is very fun to watch in this episode.

Adoreandu

This is a really weird episode. Emotionally, it's great that all the characters have so much development after losing Connor. Cordy is back, Wes is out of the hospital, Fred and Gunn are adorable, etc. But the plot makes absolutely no sense, you're telling me vampire hunter Gunn would walk into a demon casino to make a deal?! No. Not buying it.