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our gradual decline into disorder

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Salix

Gradual decline??? This is the first step of the cliff 😅

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

You're the one that wanted to see more of Anya this episode so technically this is all your fault😉

Shelly

Xander had no business being on a high horse and his comments were unacceptably cruel BUT - again my perspective as someone with abusive, neglectful and cruel parents that gave me developmental PTSD- this is the kind of thing you have to deal with. Your parents demonstrate how to love and if that demonstration is cruelty, that kind of behavior is on the tip of your tongue and controls your mind whenever you’re triggered. Marriage and intimacy are triggers for Xander. He’s actually demonstrating in this episode why the fake visions he saw in Hell’s Bells is actually possibly their future. He might be correct that he’s not someone you could safely marry, and unless he goes to intensive therapy, he could wind up perpetuating the cycles that his parents passed to him. This is why it’s not so simple to just promise to yourself you’ll never become your parents. Ok this is the last time I “defend” Xander about this, I just have personal experience in growing up the way he did. Parents can really damage you in a way that feels permanent. It takes a ridiculous amount of self work to fix trauma you’ve had since you were literally a baby.

Claire Eyles

"Get f*cked, they suck". I think we've found the Trio's new slogan. :D LOL

zerofk

"Things fall apart. They fall apart so hard. You can't ever put them back the way they were." This is so true. Sometimes you can move on to something new - sometimes even better. But it will never be the same. On a completely different note, I love how mature and understanding Dawn is when talking to Buffy about her and Spike. Like Willow said: "I feel like I should be hating Xander, but I don't."

Britney

I'm totally with you Lexi on your thoughts about Xander this episode. He's so insufferable at times, which is why he's my least favorite main character on the show. I understand he's hurt seeing the person he loves getting physical with someone else, but he made his choices and now he has to deal with the consequences. Like you said, they were broken up at this point, so Anya was technically free to do as she wishes. I remember how shocked I was back when this episode first aired when Spike and Anya got together. I have to admit, I think they have great chemistry so I kind of loved it. lol I think this is a really good episode. It had a really good balance of comedy and drama. It's amazing that a supernatural show can pull this off so well, and that's what makes Buffy the best show to ever exist. It can get really deep. The next Buffy episode to come is even more intense. Make sure you pay attention to the opening credits during that one.

John Alexander

You're reading of Anya is... not so good Lexi, imo anyway. She is 100% the jealous, vengeful type. That is kinda her bag. She hasn't really changed at all, it's the reason the character annoys me. Emma is god-like & Anya IS hilarious but as an actual person she is just the worst... ok Warren is the ACTUAL worst but you get my drift. Keep in mind (as far as I can work out anyway) Anya did all her killing, maiming & torturing WITH a soul and she is almost completely unrepentant about that. Oh and also, it was totally her fault that the wedding got ruined, not Xander's. That demon didn't come for revenge on Xander after all.

Megan

Watching you so excited about Willow and Tarah... ouch. 😢 And your tame predictions about the last four episodes, haha. (Not that you could have known.) I have been binging this week, and earlier in the season you said in an Angel reaction that you hated Holtz more than "The Meanies". Hmm, how are we feeling on the hate-o-meter now?