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Angel 4x3 - full reaction (Patreon)

Published:
2023-03-29 16:00:06
Edited:
2023-03-30 16:05:22
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2026-06
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pink slip aka your pink brain slipping out of your cranium 

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Stargazer1682

The two songs Lorne sings for this episode, "It Ain't Easy Being Green," and "Lady Marmalade" are the only two, full length, professional recordings of Andy Hallett's music, to my knowledge. One of the producers for Angel produced an album that include Andy singing these two songs, as well as Christian Kane's "Pretty as a Picture" (originally called LA Song, I believe) which was the song Christian sang at Caritas back in season 2. I'm sure there are others.

Stargazer1682

Bugsy Siegel was a mobster and basically the key architect/founder of Las Vegas, with it's legalized gambling and entertainment.

Stargazer1682

It Ain't Easy Being Green is a signature song sung by the Muppet, Kermit the Frog

Stargazer1682

Interestingly, as I recall, the episode initially ran short during production; so they added the scene with Wesley to pad the runtime of the episode. Otherwise, Alexis wasn't going to be in the episode at all.

SweetSummit

Wesley is the best at phone sex.

JenM

I agree with you so much about frustration with not letting couples get together. And your Anya and Xander example is the one that always bothered me the most. For me it's fine if a show has couples who don't get together or are on and off for dramatic purposes. But then if they are going to do that, at least have at least one stable couple who work out. Couples who are together can have ups and downs too while remaining a couple and it can be just as interesting, if not more so.

Adoreandu

I really do think it's bad writing that they can't let any couple be happy together. It's lazy as hell.

Collinson

Love the doggo so cute! Could it be that when doing reviews you talk English? So she acts different?

Stargazer1682

The sad reality is, most shows can't seem to let characters be together. I think think at least part of it stems from writers fearing the "Moonlighting curse". Moonlighting was a series from the 80s starring Bruce Willis and Cybill Shepherd, about two private investigators, who end up partnering up, but always bicker. Fans loved their chemistry, I think they may have even popularized the "will they? Won't they" trope, because the writers milked the sexual tension for all it was worth. I think rumor has it the stars didn't get along though, but it's hard to know how true that is. Eventually the characters got together, at which point fans felt all of the tension and excitement for the series was gone and the show was cancelled not long after - although that may be a case of people interpreting the reason a show ended as one thing, when it was going to end regardless; especially since this also coincided with Bruce Willis becoming a big movie star, with the success of Die Hard. But I do believe there were still writers and studios who would point to Moonlighting as the example of what not to do. Tease the relationship, but don't ever let them make the show boring by actually ending up together. And even though memory of the reason has faded, you can still see remnants of its effects with a lot of shows where two characters take years and years to end up together. And writers still don't seem to know how to make couples dynamic when they are together. I can think of one show from the mid-90s that was like that; I won't say which, in case you will potentially react to it, but they kept dicking around with the lead couple. They were comparatively quick getting them together, but then it was one thing after the next getting in their way for them staying together; and it was super frustrating. Angel and Buffy would have been made right around the time where shows started bucking that convention; and they clearly blazed a few trails of their own. But you can see the effects in the likes of Buffy and Angel's own relationship. The writers had no idea what to do with Riley and Buffy. They made Tara the most hypocritical talking head to advance Willow's arc, and then brought her back only to be a prop that would propel Willow's next storyline. Obviously I'm not going to spoil anything about Angel and Cordelia. Just by virtue of everything we've seen (you've seen) so far, I don't like Cangel. I find their romantic relationship ridiculously forced. Last season I hated every time Fred or Lorne started in with the Kyrumption crap. Like, if two characters are going to end up together, they shouldn't have to be told they're in love, or meet on some cliffs to talk about it. 🙄 And just in general, I think their season 1-2 dynamic of just being found family worked best. One of my favorite lines from a show, Quantum Leap (the original, which you should check out, if you haven't), one character says, "you're my best friend, and love is apart of friendship." And I've always found that to be a beautiful sentiment, that gets woefully under-explored on tv; especially if two characters are the opposite sex. They can never just be friends, they immediately have to become a potential love interests. Okay, end rant.

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

In fairness, the experience of trying to talk to your buddy about where to meet up later while he pays you no mind while concentrating on slots is absolutely a thing that happens in Vegas. A lot lol. David does a great job of pulling off that acting, the "uh huh, sure, yep, nod, ok" is exactly the vibe of someone pumping quarters into the machines.

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

As far as the couples thing goes, of course we all want them to be happy and together but I get why they don't. Drama comes from conflict and TV shows need drama and tension to keep us interested. If everything was sunshine and pennywhistles then there wouldn't really be much to write about. Plus sacrifice and loneliness is kinda a big theme of the show (both shows, actually). It's frustrating, for sure, but like most things in shows that we "hate" it's because we're supposed to hate it. It's supposed to be sad and frustrating. Having said all that though I get that it probably doesn't help lol And this coming from someone who ships literally everybody lol

John Alexander

50 Shades of Wesley is my absolute favourite S4 storyline.

John Alexander

Gunn slowly turning into a Youtube comment section is my least favourite S4 storyline.

John Alexander

Lol, did I actually just realise after 20 years of watching this show that THIS is the reason Cordy got sent back ?!?!? Lmao, I'm a dumbass. She said she wasn't allowed to interfere, she interferes then boom, she's back. How did I never connect those dots ?

John Alexander

Wow, ok so just got to the amnesia storyline rant and... relatable. For me it's what called the cuckoo's nest trope (like the Buffy ep Normal Again). Man I hate that trope.... Anyway Lexi I'm not going to sugercoat this, you're probably gonna have quite a bad time with S4... My only advice would be to lean into the madness of it. S4 is like a crazy ass soap opera or a telenovela, try not to take it so seriously, there were issues backstage so it's not exactly the most... coherent of seasons this team have ever written.

Ron Fehr

It's Not Easy Being Green was not an original song. It was first sung by Kermit the Frog, host of The Muppet Show. Prior to that he was among many Muppets (puppets) on the children's television show Sesame Street. Obviously he was green.

Ron Fehr

Lorne thought Fred was his 'diddle buddy'? Makes sense. He always was a little horny. (Sorry, bad joke)