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Angel 4x4 - full reaction (Patreon)

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2023-04-05 16:01:02
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2026-06
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hey guys sorry for missing my usual sunday upload, but i was feeling under the weather, but we're back now yayyy 

link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7de4g6bapkzncdt/Angel%20404.mkv?dl=0

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Ron Fehr

I just became one of your patrons a few days ago, so I need to watch earlier episodes until I reach this one. So far I've been watching you on YouTube, getting only partial reactions, so I'm just going to watch the ones that you haven't posted on there yet.

JenM

Slouching Towards Bethlehem is a line from the poem The Second Coming by William Butler Yeats. And yes, it’s about the world falling apart. The line “slouching towards Bethlehem” as well as many other lines from this poem pop up a lot in other forms of literature as well as movies, tv shows, and songs. Probably because it’s such a good poem (it’s personally one of my favorites).

zerofk

I really hate how the gang - and mostly Angel - try to hide everything from Cordelia and lie about things. Just explain it all to her. Maybe she won't believe you - even though there's plenty of evidence around - but even then it'd be better than what they did. And even more than the amnesia, I put this on the writers. They wanted Cordelia to go to Connor, so they made all this fake drama. The part with Lilah playing Wesley - and making him think he was clever about it - that part I love.

Steve Bondy

I really hated what the writers did here too, both the amnesia gimmick, and like zerofk commented, the way everyone lied to her. It really made no sense at all, and the right thing in my mind was to let the relationship between Cordy and Angel progress, and then see them struggle with how that looked in 'real life'. How would they deal with being in love, but Angel still being cursed so him being truly happy is a dangerous thing, and how would that affect them..... Would have been way more interesting to me.

John Alexander

The Second Coming by WB Yeats closes with the lines - And what rough beast, it hour come round at last, Slouches toward Bethlehem to be born But more apropos for this season is it's opening stanza - Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Hold on to your butts kiddos, Kansas is about to go bye-bye :D

Phoenix Dawn

I get your point about the writers' choices and you are probably right about it. But, honestly, as a person who absolutely hates Cangel, I rejoiced!

Stargazer1682

Honestly, the writers on both shows don't know how to handle relationships, or more important a relationship not working. Look at Buffy and Riley. Season 4 they were actually pretty decent, but in season 5 their relationship was written so different and arguably was written with Riley's ultimate departure in mind. The contrived a random attraction between Xander and Willow (okay, a random attraction to Willow by Xander) which magically disappeared after Cordelia's heart was broken and she dumps Xander. In hindsight, it might be more plausible that it was ACTUAL magic on the part of someone trying to ruin one of those two relationships. But then we have Oz's infatuation with Veruca out of the blue, to end that relationshi. Then there's Tara and WIllow.......

Adoreandu

You're perfectly justified to feel this way and you're not alone.

Robin Davies

You missed an opportunity for an internet first – a reactor actually falling asleep during a reaction! This is a dull plotline, and you were right to nail Lorne’s useless comment “Evil is coming and it’s planning on staying”. It reminded me of those pointlessly vague warnings that Angel gave Buffy at the start of BTVS before he changed from smug knowitall to moody guy.

Ariel17

I probably won’t change your mind on this episode or plot Lexi (I actually enjoy many things about this episode and I don’t have a problem with the amnesia plot here or anywhere really, though I acknowledge it’s been used plenty in TV shows and has a tendency to be lazily written) however I do think that a positive thing about amnesia plots is the opportunity for interesting callbacks and re-contextualization of certain past scenes. Like, I think it’s fun to see Cordy suddenly go into fight mode like on autopilot and also to see her look back at her graduation stuff (btw, flaming arrows probably refers to the flaming arrows that they threw at the vamps behind them, with Oz leading that flank I believe). Anyways, since nobody has mentioned this yet, a bit of fun trivia in this episode is the song that Cordy chose to sing for Lorne, which is the same song she was performing in the puppet episode in S1 of Buffy. It’s interesting that amnesia Cordy would just happen to go to that song of all songs…. :-)

Ron Fehr

Gunn's reply "Not a sidekick" kind of reminds of Xander's "Her boy? I'm her boy?" from Buffy season 7 episode 3.