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Clara V.

Yeah, I don't think anyone was a fan of Cordy and Connor. There are some behind the scenes circumstances to Cordelia's story this season that might be worth looking into when you're done with the season, but before that would probably spoil some things, so I'd wait.

Stargazer1682

I'll have you know, I come here for serious in-depth analysis of the series, matched with automatic praise and affirmation of each episode, regardless of quality! Who would want to listen to Lexi's sarcastic criticisms and watching the show cause her frustration? What sort of person would derive entertainment from that?? 👀 😒

zerofk

You were so convinced it was Laurie :-D I really don't like Gunn killing the professor. He wanted to save Fred from killing someone, sure. But he already had done so, by saving the professor. Killing him just takes Fred's choice away from her. And I don't think that's okay.

Adoreandu

Angel and Gunn's position was dumb. Seidel not only sent Fred and (AT LEAST!) four others to hell dimensions to die, he was also actively trying to do it again. Repeatedly. To me, that makes it self-defense, both if Fred had killed him, and for Gunn to kill him (protecting a loved one). Making it into a conflict made no sense. ETA: Leslie! perfect ship name! ETA2: Yeah, it isn't about the age difference. In real life, yes, a 16-17 year old dating a 21-22 year old would be fucked up, but this is a TV show where sometimes something weird like that can be ok, like 17 yo Buffy dating 240-something Angel. What makes it gross is that Cordy was basically Connor's step-mom when he was a baby. And the one moment of substance between the two of them before she lost her memory was very "parental", when she cleansed the Quortoth darkness out of him and held him while he cried, soothing him like a parent would a small child. So yeah. It's really gross. It's revolting.

Ron Fehr

My favorite part is that it looks like the Fred/Gunn relationship may be ending.

Ron Fehr

A karaoke-singing empath demon, yes, but hardly regular. You're unique, Lorne. You're the only demon of your kind in this dimension.

Ron Fehr

I'm not even sure if you recognized him, but the guy filming Fread being attacked during her speech on stage is Jerry Trainor. I don't know if you ever watched iCarly, but he played Carly's older brother Spencer.

Ron Fehr

What doesn't make sense to me is that Fred read the words from the book, sending herself to Pylea. How could the professor be involved? My only guess is that he somehow planted the book on the library, knowing that Fred would read it someday. As for self-defense, whether or not it was, nobody has the right to decide the guilty party's punishment. In my opinion, whoever would have exacted revenge, whether Fred or Gunn, would be just as guilty, self-defense or no.

Garrick Smalley

Not sure I like you "craping" on a show I love but I do like you voicing the same objections I had at the time. Spoiler? Since I know the future I can say You will grow to love (and hate and love) the show again.

Garrick Smalley

Daredevil is a Marvel title. Daredevil's first real love is Electra they met in collage and had a love affair until her father was killed by gangsters. She ended it and moved back to Greece. While there she went a little revenge crazy and became a hit woman. Bullseye is also a hired killer. Daredevil is a blind man (Matt) who became a lawyer who also fights crime dressed up as a devil. On a job Electra comes back to New York renews her relations with Daredevil but before they can fully reconcile Bullseye kills her. this link should be a picture of the killing https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Bullseye_(Lester)_(Earth-616)?file=Elektra_Natchios_%28Earth-616%29_and_Bullseye_%28Lester%29_%28Earth-616%29_from_Daredevil_Vol_1_181_001.jpg I have been a fan of Daredevil for many, many years. Since you react to shows and movies I would take it as a kindness if you would react to the 3 seasons of Daredevil that originally came out on NetFlix but are now on Disney. (As well as the Defenders show.) Please ignore the Daredevil and Electra movies they just piss me off. Thank you

Cory James

I'm actually really glad you're on the side of 'cordy ick' here cause initially lots of people are mad at CONNOR for taking advantage of her memoryless state (I don't think he is I think he is desperate for affection however it comes. Boy is touch starved.). But like...she knows she's a full-grown adult, lol, and she knows she has a picture of baby Connor who is Angel's son and she has a pretty good idea she used to be in love with Angel. So absolutely Cordelia ick. and I feel really bad for Connor who literally just needs SOMEONE to love him out loud. I am also a fan of Wes/Lilah from a purely entertainment standpoint cause gosh what a shipwreck.