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Buffy 7x11 - full reaction (Patreon)

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2023-05-14 16:01:00
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someone touch giles right now!! i'm not messing around anymore 

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Judson

I don't blame you at all! Anthony Stewart Head squatting rightfully drives many other people wild too. :P Also, you're right. The First has already doubled up on its preferred type of attack. It has already tried to place Spike within the group as its sleeper agent then infiltrated the house as Eve. Also, to clear up the reference... When Andrew said episode 1 is boring, He was referring to Star Wars, Episode One: The Phantom Menace came out a few years before this episode.

Garrick Smalley

I am very much looking forward to the time when your questions from the intro are answered. I had some of the same questions when I watched this the first time. I would say more but then I would stray into spoilers territory and I don't want to even by accident.

Ron Fehr

Upon watching this for the first time, I found Felicia Day's character, Vi, to be my favorite Slayerette. Yes, that's Felicia Day.

Stargazer1682

Cubby Broccoli and subsequently his daughter, Barbara, were/are film producers who have been bringing the James Bond movies to the big screens since the first film adaptation of the Fleming novels, starring the original Bond actor, Sean Connery. Timothy Dalton was like, the fourth or fifth actor to play Bond (depending on if one counts David Niven as one of the Bonds). At one point in season 6, the trio argue which actor was the best James Bond, and apparently Andrew is a die hard Timothy Dalton fan. On a side note, Cubby Broccoli claimed that it was his family who, in the late 19th century, cultivated the hybrid plant now known as broccoli, named after the family; though this claim isn't definitively supported. Broccoli, brussels sprouts, cauliflower and cabbage are all human made hybridized/selectively bread derivatives of mustard plants.

Stargazer1682

"Did daddy take you hunting?" I think the implication is that she's been training with her Watcher since she was probably at least 8. Given Kendra's backstory, having raised by her Watcher from such a young age she couldn't actually remember her parents, this does track with Kennedy. If anything, I actually lean towards questioning her claim of coming from a rich family and nice home. As a general rule, I would say anything stated on the show needs to be taken at face value the vast majority of the time, unless the character is known to be unreliable or the claim is at any point contradicted. However, based on what we know of the Council's methods, I think it's likely Kendra's experience would have been the norm for most Potentials who were given a Watcher. The Council wasn't prone to deviating from their established procedures or being flexible when it came to the Slayers. They saw them as little more than a tool to exploit and wanted them dependent on the Council. The last thing they'd want is an entitled Slayer; or worse, one with the resources not to need them. While pure speculation, what would make sense about Kennedy's claim about a house with wings, summer house and step-siblings is if she had actually spent the last 10+ years growing up very isolated, without friends or family or money; just her, her Watcher and the training and she makes up these stories of a better life waiting for her, with all the things she doesn't have.

zerofk

Giles is like that cat in the box: both alive and dead until someone touches him. This is such a good episode. That scene with Buffy, Willow, and Xander talking psychically is very cool, as is the thunderdome/showtime moment. Andrew's line "Want to play Kevin Bacon?" probably refers to Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, wherein you pick a random actor, connect them to another actor with whom they played together, and keep doing that to finally connect them to Kevin Bacon in 6 steps or fewer. It's a similar idea to the Erdős number, wherein mathematicians see how "far away" they are from Hungarian mathematician Erdős Pál. That one is about co-written papers rather than movies but the idea is the same.

Raven Dark

Watching you continually lose it over everything with Giles was so much fun. Also, hilarious how you were so worried Giles was going to be the problem, but it turned out to be Eve. Too funny. I love this season so much.

Stargazer1682

One thing I'd keep in mind with Buffy facing the Turok Han this time versus last time is, when she first encountered the Turok Han, she hadn't really slept in like, three days at least. Starting at Conversations with Dead People, there was about three consecutive episodes that picked up immediately where the last one left one; and Buffy didn't have the chance to sleep at any point in between. Add to that her initial expectation that this Uber Vamp could be taken out like any other conventional vampire, and she was too exhausted, underprepared and taken off-guard. She did manage to get a stake in the heart during the first encounter, but it wasn't enough and she didn't have the strength for more of a fight. This time she was better prepared - to a point - she had the space to fight, the strength and stamina and knew that what she was fighting was stronger than the norm. All of that doesn't necessarily ensure she wins, but she's fought tougher demons before; this was just going to make her work for it more.

Britney

I love this episode so much. Buffy is such a badass. I remember how shook I was when I saw this episode for the first time and Eve actually turned out to be The First. Such a cool little twist. I just love the end fight scene as well.

Ron Fehr

Anyone can enter the vortex to speak to Beljox's Eye, but only a demon can open it.

Ron Fehr

Andrew's rant about Timothy Dalton refers to the James Bond movie franchise. The Broccolis (I forget their first names) were the ones who transported the character from book to film. There were a collection of books written by Ian Fleming featuring the fictional spy.

Ron Fehr

The Thunderdome reference is in regards to the third of the Mad Max films, titled Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome. Also, I believe the plan was simply to show that it was still possible to win despite insurmountable odds.

Bud Haven

Buffy greeted Rona with the title of the first episode, Welcome to the Hellmouth.

Denni Caid

I heard a fan theory (and have adopted it as my favorite explanation) that when Willow resurrected Buffy in S6, she specifically resurrected her as the Slayer, and she was re-inserted into the Slayer line... and that's what made the line unstable and made it possible for the First to hatch this plan to wipe it out entirely.

Phoenix Dawn

Omg, you are sooooo right about "why doesn't the First just hang around anyway?" lol I mean, yeah ahah

Ron Fehr

I like your straightforwardness, like your comment when Andrew mentioned his joystick hand, or when he scampered out of the basement after seeing The First disappear.

x_Rhi_x

"Coz they have to kill buffy last for some reason" i think because if they kill her first, that might activate one of the potentials and that potential (new slayer) would have more power to keep the fight going. So it makes sense to kill all the potentials first, then buffy and faith last. I dont *think* another slayer would activate if buffy died, but maybe the First is playing it safe by leaving Buffy last along with faith lol

Clara V.

I can't lie, I always thought the whole "we have a plan" bit, complete with the clever-seeming flashback, only for there to not actually be a plan was very, very dumb. And it's not like I'm even doubting that Buffy could beat the Turok-han without a big plan, but the way the episode made such a big deal about nothing doesn't make Buffy seem badass like it was clearly intended, just really dumb.