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Angel 4x13 - full reaction (Patreon)

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2023-06-11 16:00:03
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2026-06
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that end reveal may have short circuited my brain

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Scott Margeson

Knew you'd be oh-so happy with someone's SURPRISE return!

Adam Session

As much as there is annoying stuff this season, this arc is amazing. Personally I think this is the best arc for Faith in the Buffyverse.

Judson

So glad you never read the guest cast credits! That would have ruined this episode's surprise. I legitimately think a significant part of Cordelia's storyline this season is Joss Whedon's pettiness. Her relationship with Connor, fine. That was "part of the plot". But why does she have to make out with The Beast? He does not strike me as a character motivated by sentimentality at all. Can't a woman just be a supervillain without her control over others being sexual?

x_Rhi_x

When you thought you'd have a reprieve from conndelia....

Ron Fehr

I was thinking of explaining the "I hold my own," "That's a shame," interaction, but I had the feeling that it wasn't that important to you.

Steven

I always pick up the odd line in rewatches. I especially like Lorne, when he was talking to the furies on the phone "...well, not so fast, girls, one at a time."

Teresa Schultz

I have been waiting all Season for this reaction. Faith is one of my all-time favorite characters. “Step away from the glass” is one of my favorite lines from her. I’m glad you enjoyed this one. I knew you would and was excited for you to get to it. Watcher and slayer reunited and interacting the way it should have always been!

Ron Fehr

I've developed a theory about Slayers when they face the same villain multiple times. Usually the first time, she doesn't know quite what to expect, so she's not fully prepared. So it's more of a feeling-out process that first time. But as she gains more knowledge about her nemesis, she's better prepared for future encounters. I'm guessing that Faith would have eventually defeated the Beast, had Angelus not disposed of him. She would have eventually made the connection with the dagger that caused its downfall.

Stargazer1682

The "move away from the glass." line and Wesley saying, "5 by 5." are so fucking epic; I will never understand people who only watch Buffy or don't like Angel. I read a comment once that sums it up perfectly - the Watcher and his Slayer, the way they were meant to be.

Stargazer1682

So the answer to the question about Joss' fragile ego is, yes. He's that much of an asshole. Here we've reached the crux of at least some of the behind the scenes bullshit. Charisma was pregnant in real life during this season; with her son who is now 20 years old. She had a miscarriage in season 3, she's only fairly recently talked publicly about details that were only speculated about. At one time, there was this talk amongst the forums that she didn't tell Joss right away, keeping it secret because she was afraid of how it would affect her job; and when she finally did tell them, it derailed a bunch of plans that had to be changed at the last minute. But it actually turns out that she had tried to tell Joss for weeks, possibly months; pretty early on in either the pregnancy or the season - like, if I'm not mistaken, she was trying to tell him sooner than people typically announce share that information, when there's still a higher chance of miscarriage; because she wanted to make sure the writers had time to work things out and not blindside them. Except, Joss kept stone walling her; ignoring her calls, dodging meeting with her; and she finally did and told him the news, he asked if she planned on keeping it.... 😐 It seems he had a bunch of plans for Cordelia that would pay off this season, and her pregnancy would affect those plans; and "coincidentally" Charisma finds herself kissing Connor, kissing the Beast, sleeping with Connor... All of which, and then some, came out when she came out in support of Ray Fisher, after the issues he had with Joss on the set of Justice League; which then prompted Sarah to comment. And Amber. And Michelle.... 😒

zerofk

The scenes in the basement with Wesley and Lilah - or at least his vision of her - are some of my favourite scenes in the show. OH, and also: FAAAITH!

Britney

Yay, Faith is back!!! I couldn't wait for us to get to this point. "Step away from the glass." ICONIC! Charisma was actually pregnant during filming, so they had to write it into the show. I'm not sure if you've seen pictures of her with her son, but he looks so much like her.

Ron Fehr

One thing that I like about Faith this episode is that she is not reciprocating any feelings for Connor, even though she has clearly made am impression on him.

Ron Fehr

I don't know about my favorite part of the episode, but my favorite part of Lexi's reaction was when Faith first appeared. "Don't get your hopes up. Don't get your hopes up. My hopes just went up. "

Jontor11

That knife in the prison is the same type of knife the Bringers used to kill the Potentials.

Cory James

TBH they hide pregnancies on TV all the time so they didn't have to put any focus on it at all. They could have hidden her behind the desk or plants or just held the camera above her midsection the whole time LOL what they purposefully did to Cordelia was so shameful and NO ONE stopped it. Connor immediately falling for Faith because she's tougher than him is such an Angel thing to do LOL Faith and Wesley together are honestly my favorite thing about this episode, though.