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greatest crossover ever!!!!!

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Britney

This episode made me ship Willow and Fred so hard. Kennedy who?

Ron Fehr

Thanks for explaining the title Orpheus because until now, I didn't really understand it.

Ron Fehr

Faith being conscious when Angelus fainted proves that the Slayer is stronger than any vampire. She had injected herself before he bit her, yet she fainted after he did.

Ron Fehr

Cordy and Willow's exchange kind of reminded me of one that Buffy and Amy once had. "How've you been?" "Rat. You?" "Dead." "How've you been?" "Higher power. You?" "Ultimate evil."

Jontor11

LOVED your reaction Lexi! First off, that knife in prison with Faith was a Bringer dagger, so it was The First that tried to kill her. Yay, this crossover is soo good. The networks actually effed it up originally though, because Buffy episode 17 aired AFTER this one. That means it was a much huger shock for us all back then because we were so sure that there wasn't going to be any crossovers, and we weren't warned by that scene in Buffy, so Willow showing up was just WHAT!!! Love that scene with Willow and Wesley. Married couples don't always have great chemistry on screen, but Alyson and Alexis did a fantastic job. Also loved all the Fred/Willow scenes, the Cordy/Willow scene, the flashbacks and Faith beating up Junior. And now Faith is going to Sunnydale with Willow! Yay!

Joe

This episode always reminds me of the Watchers Council’s Slayer Trial. Buffy was locked in a room with a Vampire who she had to outwit to defeat. I know Faith still has her powers but this is Angelus so the stakes are similar. Maybe the draconian Slayer trial’s original purpose was to make sure a slayer could defeat a next level threat when the time came, a big bad type opponent where superhuman strength and endurance wouldn’t be enough and adaptability and intelligence were needed to win the day. Imagine if there was an apocalypse level event and the Slayer had been coasting on her powers alone. Makes me think the trials purpose was to make sure the legacy wasn’t bestowed upon someone who would ultimately fail when the time came. Just a theory.

Ron Fehr

Loved your surprised look when you found out Faith was heading to Sunnydale. She was just too popular a character to not show up on Buffy one more time.

zerofk

The drug they used is the same one they saw people using in the previous episode. That's where they got the idea. I do wonder whose idea it was. Faith calls it "her ruse", but Wesley must've had some input at least. Willow is such a breath of fresh air. She, in her own words, "flayed a guy alive and tried to destroy the world," and yet she's more light-hearted and bubbly than anyone on the cast of Angel. I love that she misinterprets Fred's friendliness as flirting.

Freefall

Cordy's pregnancy reveal was such a dramatic scene. Like you said it feels out of character, and I don't know why the beast master would even dress like that in front of everyone if before it was all 'normal'. It just screams i'm evil.

Stargazer1682

The dress at the end... should have been our first clue that someone had it out for Charisma...

pat on

you missed the funny part, Fred says don't you think they're relationship is icky cut to Cordelia telling Conner to kill his father.

Ron Fehr

Did you notice that whenever Connor didn't quite agree with her, that Cordy would bring up the baby or family, to play on his feelings.

Stargazer1682

I enjoy the psychological aspect of the shared mindscape Faith and Angel were in. Not only the fact that Angelus is reliving "Angel's" memories, but ultimately Angel is there and responsive before his soul is restored, or even before the soul is released from the Muo-Ping, goes to show that the soul isn't a personality or identity; it's there all along and the soul helps reconciling these two aspects of Angel's mind - a mind which is arguably more fractured than the average vampire's.

Rio de Tanana

Always thought Fred’s little gasp at the end of her convo with Willow was one with a bit of disappointment. Like “Drat. Oh well.” It’s fun to think about them keeping in touch and meeting up every so often to battle some demon.

Cory James

You were really confused when Angelus tells Faith "You didn't think my hell was private did you?" or something like that. What he meant was that his hell might be seeing Angel do his good deeds with a soul, but Faith's hell is watching Angel do bad things (like purposefully feed on a human) with a soul. I honestly think that's weirdly sweet and I wish they had kept Faith on to explore her friendship with Angel more. He basically saved her soul and she won't even kill him as Angelus when all his friends are like "yep. bet" without hesitation when Angel tells them they have to kill Angelus. Fred and Willow had WAY more chemistry than Willow and Kennedy, honestly.