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Angel 4x19 - full reaction (Patreon)

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2023-07-19 16:00:03
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2026-06
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that whole scene was so crazy

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Ron Fehr

The song that Angel and Connor were singing should sound familiar. Angel sang it in Caritas. It is actually 'Mandy' by Barry Manilow.

Ron Fehr

It's kind of amusing that they chose 'The Magic Bullet' for the episode title. The blood on the bullet was what got Angel to see what Fred saw. The Magic Bullet is also a theory related to the John F. Kennedy assassination, which Jasmine makes reference to, saying that there was no second gunman, that Oswald acted alone.

Brendan O'Connor

Sam Witwer’s character saw Jasmine’s true face because of the vampire that dug his nails into her arm, and the blood was still on the nails when he knocked Sam over and the nails dug into his chest

zerofk

In the intro you said that maybe "Fred and John have something in common that we haven't seen yet." I think this is one of the better written mysteries because we _have_ seen it - we just don't realise it yet. Last episode Fred made an off-hand remark about scrubbing the shirt until her fingers bled. As Brendan says above, John got Jasmine's blood in him because the vampire who attacked her also put his claws in John's shoulder. And if Cordelia's blood has the same effect as Jasmine's, it makes sense Connor's might too - and hence it would not work on him. It all fits nicely.

Ron Fehr

You said that you kind of want Connor dead, but what if Sahjan gets let out of the urn somehow? The prophecy said that Connor is the one who kills him.

Stargazer1682

Jeez Lexi, Fred is more than a pair of bosoms. I think Lexi's hates the idea of being connected through Jasmine, because of the implications of other people hearing her innermost thoughts; and honestly, considering the stuff Lexi does say, I'd be scared to know the stuff she keeps to herself. A little titillated, but scared.

Stargazer1682

So in case you don't know, the "magic bullet" is reference to a conspiracy theory related to the JFK assassination; because the bullet that hit Kennedy passed through him and embedded in the chest of the Texas governor who was riding in the car with him. The conspiracy theory says that the angle and way it hit the governor, who survived, suggested it came from a second shooter; because it supposedly wouldn't have matched the angle or trajectory of wouldn't have matched it coming from Kennedy. It was mocked as being a "magic bullet" because it would need to suddenly change direction. What the conspiracy doesn't take into account is that the governor was seated lower and offset from Kennedy, rather than directly in front of him or on the same level; which accounts for the discrepancy of the trajectory. Which of course makes that an even more appropriate name for the episode.

Stargazer1682

So an odd thing I'm wondering about now is - the scene at the motel Fred was staying at, two of the people Jasmine used to find Fred appeared to be a prostitute and her client, right? But if Jasmine could connect with them, presumably that means they've "felt her love". Would there still be prostitutes or people seeking elicit sexual encounters in seedy motels under Jasmine's influence? Because I kind of feel Jasmine's influence is meant to supplant those kinds of impulses. And I guess the same could be said about the woman smoking. Would people under the influence of Jasmine still smoke, or abuse alcohol or drugs?

Stargazer1682

As if we needed further proof that "Jasmine" ain't no "power that be" - it sure looks more like she was queen of the demon arachnids in a hell dimension...

Megan

I just found a little plot hole watching this I think. For Fred and Angel, they didn't lose their "love" right when the blood entered their system. It was when they looked at Jasmine after the blood had mixed with theirs. But for Lorne, Wesley, and Gunn, they didn't need to see Jasmine. Of course, those three had Cordy's blood, not Jasmine's, so we can explain it away as having a different effect. But still, Fred and Angel should have thought that after the blood thing they would need to let the others leave to go take a gander at Jasmine before they were cured. 🤔

Cory James

The funniest thing to me is that Angel thinks they taught Fred how to escape except she spent 5 years on Pylea escaping and stealing and hiding LMAO that's her entire life bro, you're not finding her.