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Angel 5x4 - full reaction (Patreon)

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2023-09-06 16:00:04
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2026-06
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the most horrific punishment

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Captain Hammer

Those jump scare screams were great! Funny seeing Angel give someone else the same punishment that Conner gave him.

Stargazer1682

(Sees Fred in the shower) Lexi: I hate it here. A minority opinion...

Jontor11

Imo, this is the creepiest episode in the whole Buffyverse. Yikes. That ending was horrifying!

zerofk

"Is this hell, or is it just the basement of Wolfram & Hart?" I'm not sure there's much of a difference to be honest. Just a great creepy episode overall.

Ron Fehr

Yes, in the last episode, Fred didn't give Spike much thought, but it looked to me like she changed her mind at the end of the episode. When she saw how serious his situation actually was, she swore to him that she wouldn't ignore him like that again.

HeiKira

This is the episode that made me think "what's the rating on this show again?"

Ron Fehr

You gotta admit, that was a truly selfless act on Spike's part. Given the choice to save Fred or become corporeal again, he chose to save Fred. That's a champion, putting others ahead of oneself.

Ron Fehr

Pavane's punishment brings to mind an episode of Doctor Who, called The Family of Blood. In the end, one of the family was given the same punishment, given immortality but unable to affect anything.

Jesse baldo

LOL EDIT: I'm so glad You figured out that Spike never had been to hell, he was just in between, Side note, You said "so he's just gonna go to hell, Spike has no idea where he will go, the only reason hell was there was because of the reaper guy, and he was exchanging bad people, which is messed up because wouldn't heaven intervene to take its own soul back, also The reapers punishment is NOT worse than actual hell, people in hell would give anything to change places, bervain can't feel anything, in hell they are burning and thirsty forever , they can smell horrible things etc, its all about feeling, what I wrote below was before I edited my comment haha this is what I said before i realized you understood it hahaha ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------*Before my Edit lol : Ah man I wish they didn't present the hell thing this way, Ok so to clarify SPIKE DOES NOT SLIP INTO HELL! He feels like somethings is pulling him down when he fades out, HE IS NOT actually IN HELL when he blips out, that would add an entire WOW AWFUL to it, Hell is burning even in this show, not a "hell dimension" as mentioned here, both spike and angel say "gonna burn" But Spike has NEVER been to hell in this episode, Hopefully it was easy to understand that that guy that throws people into the hell portal is the guy that hell wants, So it would make NO sense that spike goes to hell every time because you can't LEAVE actual hell and blip back, Other wise that guy who is suppose to go there would be done with spike and succeeded, Spike merely goes in between worlds where that portal and guy are, So again SPIKE IS NEVER burning or being tortured, If that guy throws spike INTO the portal to hell THEN spike goes to hell, I know it seemed like fred confirmed it but she didn't , she said he is "slipping into" and even she does not fully understand what spike meant, it was worded in spikes naturally poor descriptive way. The answer is simple, Spike goes in between using his strength to "straddle both sides" to not fall into hell, other wise spike wouldn't need to say "i know where it is TRYING to take me, where it WANTS me to go" meaning it hasn't done it yet and spike is GUESSING. Haha evertime you say he goes to hell i'm yelling at the screen HE HASN'T BEEN THERE FOR REAL! lol he would be in shambles, not depressed if he ever went , he would be crying and screaming at all of angels buddies and angel to save him with everything they have as hell is not a joke, its eternal torment, not scary, instead it is Infinitely worse than the worst imagination, Spike comes back calm just worried, Idk if you filmed a lot of episodes in advance but just a heads up , spike is not in hell, he is in between both worlds when he blips out. By the way ****Everything I said is in this episode and the episodes before it is not a spoiler at all, i'd never spoil a show haha i'm 100 percent against that lol ***

Stargazer1682

I think Fred's defense for last episode, yeah, Spike's in trouble, he's winking out and being pulled to hell - but was that likely to happen within the next 24-48 hours? And even if the odds were high, he's the phantom-esque of a vampire, and there's a fully corporeal human woman who definitely needs their help within that timeframe, but so does lot of other potential people she could come into contact with as a wolf that stand to be her victim. Can you necessarily qualify that Nina's life is more important than Spike's? Not strictly so, no, but there was no indication that his problem was nearly as pressing; and if it was, they probably wouldn't have necessarily been able to do anything about it right that second. I'm reluctant to say Spike SHOULD be willing to risk that fate to save innocent lives; being such a stand-up, worlding saving, soulful fellow now, but if it were Angel, he probably would.

Chris Carman

You gotta love a villain who says "Shall we...?"

Ariel17

I believe this is the first episode of all the Buffyverse that had a ‘viewer discretion advised’ warning before the episode about the gore/graphic content when it aired on TV

Adoreandu

"I'm prepared" She was not prepared.