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robo

early mha drop?? we’ve been blessed

Renn.88

5:49 iirc, technically it didnt. They are categorically in their 2nd year and the 3rd years shouldve graduated but the war stopped all that so theyre still technically first years, but by the calendar date, they should be in their 2nd year of schooling at this moment if Shigaraki didnt start the war. I dont remember the anime saying it, but there is a scene in the Manga that says that

Lyrical Kell of Music

I’ve seen some talk about the fact AFO was able to retake control of shiggys body that it kinda invalidated Bakugos victory and I massively disagree. 1. It’s been established over multiple season that shiggy and AFO can take over the body when the other is weakened, like when shiggy first woke up, after taking a point blank prominence burn from endeavor, AFO took control to extract Shiggy. Then in the flying coffin dekus barrage allowed shiggy to take control. 2) it’s also been established that there has always been an AFO vestige in shiggy since he got AFO. 3) these 2 points lead to my third, the second AFO (the quirk) was given to shiggy, there was 2 AFO (the person) personalities, and they are independent, like this AFO vestige said he was waiting for shiggy to take OFA then launch a assault for control of the body. On the other hand rewind AFO wanted vestige AFO to start the assault early so he could use warp to get shiggy. So they are independent. So I would agree if rewind AFO was like “oh well I just move my mind to shiggy”. No, rewind AFO is gone, so Bakugo made a massive contribution because he removed one of the AFO in the world

HBelmont67

Shigiraki just CANNOT CATCH A BREAK. 😭😭 Every time it looks like he takes a step forward, AFO pushes him ten paces back, only this time, he pushed him off a bridge. 😤

LegendsofJaz45

Tenko really was doomed from the start. AFO nudged Kotaro into having another kid since Hana was too old to manipulate, stole Tenko's actual quirk, manipulated Kotaro into becoming more abusive, and gave him an inferior copy of Overhaul. Diabolical work.

Himiko Toga

The afo plot twist was kinds obvious looking back on it. Like we really thought afo just happened to find the grandchild of all mights master who just happened to have an awful life and just happened to have a destructive quirk? Naaaahh

rebillihp

so what his quirk was isnt really a spoiler. its never said in the series what it was only in an interview afterwards

rebillihp

they said it was a kid in the Dr's orphanage that he took the quirk from. and if you look when he says that it was mini overhaul. he took overhaul and took only the destroy half from it

neogear

19:30 Im pretty sure the one in the orphanage was overhaul. If you go back to that part, he basically says he copied the quirk but only gave shigaraki the destruction part of overhauls quirk

Deiondre0

I believe Bakugo mentioned it during a flashback in the Vigilante Deku arc. It was only a single comment but so much was going on it’s understandable to miss it

HBelmont67

Aizawa: "On your left . . ."

Kyle MacDonald

"It was me, Tomura! It was me all along!"

Tyler

It’s never been revealed but I’m curious what Tenkos sisters Quirk was because Tenko was born with such a cool evolution of float I wonder if she had something similar

HBelmont67

Really really hope y'all will seriously consider continuing this upload by starting Vigilantes, though if six uploads a week has grown tiresome, I'd understand. Still want it, tho. 😁

Tyler

Crazy to think back that Overhaul lost his arms and quirk to an inferior version of his own

123anaya14

Hero society really fucked over so many people and those who fight are villains. From a person ignoring a child in need to the manifestation of a quirk that changes the persons mind but they're expected to cope and are ignored, or children born for the intent purpose to make a certain quirk (Shigaraki, Toga and Dabi) so Shigaraki fights as the hero to all "villains" and that is what he seeks to destroy and will fight to make the world a place easier to live in. So I don't really understand Kenny being in disapproval seeing people rooting for Shigaraki, they have been absolutely fucked and trampled and want to see the world burn but that is exactly what Deku sees now and is achnowledged

HBelmont67

The fact remains that Kenny was spoiled about Shigiraki's original Quirk being something other than Decay. That's not cool.

HBelmont67

I still can't believe Horikoshi went that far with Deku losing his arms like that. 😰 The last couple seasons have upped that brutality, sure, but to do that to the MAIN CHARACTER is freaking CRUEL.

HBelmont67

I think more like AFO took a copy of Overhaul that Doctor Garaki developed, cause Chisaki clearly still has his Quirk.

HBelmont67

Something being marginally set up doesn't make it obvious, I'd say.

Scar

I believe it was mentioned that she was quirkless because she talked about how much she admired heroes but also said something about being Tenko’s number one fan instead of a team

Scar

The spoiler is that decay wasn’t his original quirk bro…

Tyler

Oh no I mean when Shigaraki decays his arm at the end of that arc, he’s loses his arms to an inferior copy of his own, might have worded that poorly

Bread&Jam Reacts

I’ve never been this early! Let’s gooo!! I’m so excited to see you guys watch the next episode! So good!

Tyler

Perfect time to start it they can catch up before season 2 with some double drops!

HBelmont67

It could just be her Quirk isn't anything remarkable, like the majority of the population.

Tyler

Oh maybe it’s different in the dub case in the sub I remember her saying they would grow up to be heroes together, quirkless makes sense though otherwise I feel she would have used it when running away from Tenko

HBelmont67

Ohhhh, I see what you mean. Dang, that makes that scene even more brutal and cathartic than it already was. 😬 Overhaul still FULLY deserved it, though.

HBelmont67

Agreed, especially if season two of Vigilantes is a simul-dub like season one was.

Scar

I honestly wish he went through with it permanently, not that I want Deku to suffer but it’s been set up for so long it would’ve been insane

HBelmont67

Man, All For One might just be the SINGLE MOST EVIL character Kenny and Montana have seen on the channel. 👿 At absolute minimum, he's, like, top three. 😤

Joe V.

Not sure if you still think this by the end but it was mentioned before in the show that the plan of transferring OFA was with the hopes that it would be done with such force that it would be destroyed on impact. They tested it with the second which is why there was a conversation of, if it didn't work the way they wanted Shigaraki MIGHT get the quirk and the recoil but the test confirmed that wouldn't happen which is why they proceeded with the rest of the quirks. So there's no chance of the recoil affecting Shigaraki or AFO now. Along those same lines they've shown that the individual and the quirk are inherently one in this mind space so AFO saying decay is gone was also confirmation that Shigaraki was gone along with it.

Himiko Toga

I think it does. Which is what makes a plot twist perfect. When something is so obvious based on everything we have seen but we just, didn't catch until it's explained

Scar

They watched fmab and met Shou Tucker…he’s definitely up there though

Tyler

That would be even more ideal for them as reactors, don’t have to wait a week and worry about spoilers

HBelmont67

Sorry to burst your bubble, Kenny, but Uravity was "on the way" to a hospital. She and Dark Shadow are OUT of this fight.

Jimmy

God this season is so good 😭😭😭

Gestrid

"On your left."

Gestrid

One note here: Shigaraki/ All for One did not steal One for All. Well, technically, he did, but Izuku also willingly pushed it into him with such force that the quirk factor shattered when it came into contact with that "iron ball". This also caused Shigaraki enough psychological damage that Izuku was able to get to the root of his psyche. Remember that visual they showed of how Bakugo passes stuff to Izuku? "Take this and die!!!" The only quirk that Shigaraki stole from Izuku *and was able to use* was Danger Sense.

Braden Jackson

That and also if rewind AFO transferred his quirk then the current AFO would have all his powers doubled and have new ones that were destroyed in the battle with Stars and Stripes so Bakugo also prevented AFO from becoming much stronger as well

Letts React

If you keep watching the reaction I mention that a few moments later! Crazy detail!

HBelmont67

Ochaco and Tokoyami are taking a break after being MVP last season. 🤣

HBelmont67

I NEED to ask questions for that one; Saturday can't come soon enough. 😫

HBelmont67

The English dub changed Tomura's cries after AFO takes over his body to Tenko's screams. 😭😭 Side note: I do like the auditory choice to have AFO's voice echo, just like his original mask. I always liked how that sounded.

HBelmont67

I understand that 100%, but I still like the execution of Eri's contribution and how it doesn't feel like a deus ex machina. She potentially damaged her Quirk doing this, and all it did was Rewind Deku a few minutes. He's not at 100%; he's still just as tired and beat up as he has been this whole season. He just isn't as severely handicapped anymore.

Eric C

last episode, when kenny said something to the effect of deku losing both his arms....i almost looked into the camera like i'm on the mf Office

Spooky_man

Did you guys catch that the decay quirk is just a half copy of Overhauls quirk

HBelmont67

ERI IS A HERO, TOO 🎤🎶😭

HBelmont67

Didn't only, like, two other anime episodes get a rating that high this year? Solo Leveling and One Piece?

HBelmont67

I'm just gonna come out and say that I find Shou Tucker overrated. Here me out, but I don't think a one-off character committing the ultimate act of pure evil on a family member TWICE should overdo characters who have had seasons, even entire series, to flesh out and commit acts that are usually much WORSE.

HBelmont67

Given how rare Quirklessness has been established in this show, if a character is Quirkless, they will TELL you. Midoriya, All Might, Melissa Shield, Aoyama (formerly), Ragdoll (currently): these are kind of the only examples.

HBelmont67

You can't be serious 🫩

HBelmont67

Just went and gave it a 10/10, though I have to ask: is two haters really "review bombing?" Cause that's the only amount I saw outside of the 10/10 range.

Daran Tung

(INTERVIEW CONTENT) Kohei Horikoshi actually confirmed that the circular ring propulsion quirk AFO and Shigi use this season was Shigi's original Quirk. "Question: What kind of quirk did Shigaraki actually have when he was born? Horikoshi: The circular thing AFO had around him while floating was actually the basis of Tenko's quirk. However, since AFO beefed it up with various other quirks, the original one wasn't that strong." And I saw someone say on twitter that Shigi was born to touch the stars but instead cursed to never touch again 😭😭😭

James S

Fun fact: the little hero who offered to help at the shelter? That’s one of the author’s first characters from another manga he did

neogear

Ooohhh yes you guys did talk about it in the review!

Suplee215

I think its obvious in hindsight but it isnt too obvious. All for One has a ton of plans in the works. From Dabi to Overall to even Deku, All for One has eyes on everyone with the doctor and orphanage. And probably others. One of candidates he has an eye on turning iut to have a personal tie to ine of the former wielders if All for one isnt a stretch. Of course the itching being foreshadowing for this makes it brilliant writing. But I can see a child of a hero who was abandoned becoming a bad parent without any help from All for One.

Suplee215

Mild spoilers but more clarifying what's implied. Overhaul grew uo in an orphanage. One ran by the doctor, basically similiar to Dabi. The doctor copied his overhaul wuirk and then modified it. Thats the origin of decay

Himiko Toga

Except he isn't one of the extras, he's the main one. He is the plan. Everyone else is just spares

Suplee215

I think Lex Luthor from the James Gunn superman is the only person whose evil is on All for One's level. Guy manipulated countries to cause a war and genocide just to be given the government contract to kill superman. But its close. All for One wins for the single target of his evil. But Lex was willing to make hundreds of orphans and all the other fallout of war just because people are comparing him to Einstein and Superman.

Suplee215

Nevermind youbcovdred in this question. Also I think they let Overhaul keep the og quirk for 2 reasons. 1, in case overhaul became a suitable vessel instead. Guy was in the same system as Dabi as a potential choice. 2, in case the first experiment with the quirk modification fails.

Suplee215

Shigaraki is certainly a victim first and if he survived i think the proper pubishment will be helping him with his mental health. Unsure if he cam ever rejoin society, if he had decay and all other quirks and enhancements removed than theres a much better chance but egen then Im not sure the mental damage done to him will allow anything beyond tight supervision, for both the safety of others and himself. It can ve hard to deprogram someone from a cult and that feels like an understand mental of what happened to him. For comparison someone like Toga inthink coukd have been rehabilitated and freed. Her issue is basically she needs to be taught that there are safe amd non destructive ways to indulge her desires and that society's taboos around it shouldnt be a concern. Which is a lot closer to real life comparisons like self hatred for ones sexuality or sexual nature. (Question of how much punishment she should get for her crimes is another matter and depends on how you think the criminal justice system should work and what the goal should be)

Letts React

Also a few moments after it’s mentioned in the episode!!

Eiríkur Eiríksson

The quirk that Shigaraki got was a cheap copy of Overhaul's quirk, they show Chisaki being the kid at the orphanage when he explains who the doctor took a sample from

IGoBySparky

without monoma aizawa must feel so useless 😔

HBelmont67

AFO manipulating Kotaro and reinforcing his hatred of heroes is even more effed up and deplorable when you remember that HE is the reason Nana never came back to her son. This man is EVIL INCARNATE. 😭😭

𝖐𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖚𝖐𝖎 𝖇𝖆𝖐𝖚𝖌𝖔𝖆𝖙

There were over a thousand 1 star reviews that ended up showing up in over the span of a couple of hours randomly. A lot of people reported it to imdb. I wish I could post the photos here. Maybe imdb fixed them, cause it was all 1 stars brought the rating way down to 9.7 initially and now it's back up to 9.8 thankfully

Knov or Morel

I just realized that Tenko Shimura has the parenting instincts of Ging Freecs

Knov or Morel

You just broke my mind brain. Shattered to pieces (thank you for the context and nuance hahah)

Knov or Morel

All for One is a Hater of the highest order hahah, the GOAT of haters

Scar

While I do agree, you gotta admit there’s not a lot of anime’s out there that actually go to the extreme he did which is why he’s always brought up in these “most evil” conversations😅 there’s just something extra sinister about random people being that cruel

Bri

Thank you for answering my question! Great reaction as always!

jolly

last episode we saw a helicopter taking uravity away!!

Erin Ryan

I think I cried to every episode this season lol I just can't believe this show is ending I'm so emotional

Teib _21

AFO is so petty him telling Shigiraki how he manipulated him gave me reverse flash vibes, like how he killed flash’s mom to make him the cause that created the flash and from then on just made the flash’s life miserable. “It was me Tenko”

Ferret

Had to bench Tokoyami because otherwise the fight would be too easy.

Ferret

Look, I hate Shou Tucker as much as the next guy, but his crimes, committed over years, don't total up to the amount of evil AFO does in a lunch hour.

Ferret

I'm gonna be real, as much as I like *how* Horikoshi did it, I've never liked that AFO came back as the final villain. Izuku's nemesis and foil has always been Shigaraki, going back to at least the shopping mall if not the USJ. I think the better approach would have been to follow up on Shigaraki wanting to be a hero to the villains of the world. Seeing him have his hatred broken down, and what's left is still a desire to burn down the hero society that made him, his friends, and all the other villains and disenfranchised people out there through their suffering brings him and Deku as foils full circle. Having AFO come back declaring IT WAS ME TENKO! IT WAS ME ALLLLL ALOOOOON TENKO! is cool and establishes AFO as the single greatest hater in the history of fiction, but his story finished, and there's really nothing that bringing him back adds to the narrative imo.

Mekar

It accomplishes the goal of letting Izuku save Tenko without saving Tomura. Tomura is completely irredeemable and Izuku regularly repeats that he cannot forgive Tomura for what he's done, nor should he. Any ending that actually redeemed Tomura Shigaraki would have been incredibly unsatisfying. Death is the only legitimate justice for him after all the people he's murdered.

Sickness

Next episode is the Pinnacle of MHA. It is literally the entirety of what MHA and Deku are.

Knov or Morel

Ooops, I actually meant Nana Shimura has the parenting instincts of Ging, not Tenko or Kotaro

Ferret

No, I fully agree with that. But you can do that without bringing AFO back. Izuku saved Tenko, he helped heal that trauma. But that doesn't erase Tomura, we *see it in this episode.* Tomura Shigaraki still exists even without the spiraling hatred, and still wants to destroy everything. Have that be the final villain. You would literally have to change nothing in the next episode except for replacing AFO's dialogue with Symbol of Villainy Shigaraki's, even.

Max Feeley

JUST POST THE NEXT ONE ALREADY

HBelmont67

THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE DUB

HBelmont67

See, you get it. 👍🏼

Landon B

I didn't even THINK about the symbolism with the hands. What a call.

Babybear47

Kenny crying and being excited is honestly same

Babybear47

The only choice shigaraki got was being friends with the league of villains/spinner, and playing the one game he played that spinner had in common with shigaraki

Babybear47

Honestly I think AFO looked like the house shigarakis dad built to live in idk why but it kinda looks like it

Saiyasha

I think for me the worst part wasn't just that he gave him decay, he gave him a _broken version_ of decay. The original quirk, as you guys said, was similar to overhauls, able to destroy _and_ restore. But Tenko only got the part that destroyed, _literally_ giving him no other options.

Day

I kinda feel the same. I think they missed the point, which, in a part was not wanting to let down his friends, but that Shigaraki is the hero to "villains" in the same way allmight or deku is a hero to the "heroes." He was fighting for a world where the "villains" could live and be validated, he was their symbol. Shigaraki couldn't just forsake all of that even though he healed his hatred, because he experienced it and heard their voices when no one else did. But he understood Deku's perspective after the resonance and saw not all "good people" are awful to "villains"

Day

Yeah there were some lines by the Big 3 about how they should have graduated already

Renn.88

Ok yeah. I thought maybe they did, just never went back to fact check myself