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Full Metal Alchemist Episode 30 Reaction, "The Ishvaalen War of Extermination" (Patreon)

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LadyBee

I literally just opened up patreon and new upload first thing when I wake up! Thanks Kenny!

Eric Smith

Not sure if you missed the post credits in 28 (it wasn't in your reaction) but 29's is a follow up. The person coming out of Father's chest is Gluttony

Jacob Page

This episode is hard to watch sometimes. Its a good reminder that all our favorite characters commited mass genocide.

Danny C

This episode, while very key to understanding the story, is always hard to watch. You could visibly see Montana kind of just soaking it in. Also, great job at still calling things out during a tough episode, Kenny. Excited to see how you two react to a lot of plot twists and surprises in the coming arcs.

Chelly

I love this episode. It recontextualizes quite a lot. Clearly some of the “heroes” of this story haven’t done very heroic things in the past, and the show doesn’t let us excuse their actions because the characters themselves don’t let it happen. I also really appreciated how the majority of this was told through Hawkeye’s perspective (someone we really haven’t seen much of yet), and she even talked about how snipers specifically are affected by their job. It’s also rare for stories to talk about how the reality of war affects soldiers after said war has already taken place. This episode is honestly Top 5 in the show for me, it’s just really well done. In addition to all that, there’s actually something interesting about the tattoos on Hawkeye’s back. If you look at them while she’s in the shower and compare them with her image in the character cards, there’s a noticeable difference. Just thought that was worth mentioning.

Trayvon Brown

One of the reasons i like this show so much is because it doesn't try to excuse the horrible things it's characters have done or try to frame them as reasonable or even good. These people participated in a GENOCIDE let that sink in for a moment. That's sime vile shit, like Hawkeye said, even if they didn't start it they helped carry it out and thus deserve to be held accountable. Awesome episode.

MWS

Mustang doesnt need hawkeye around to use alchemy, once he learned it from the notes on her back he just has it now, shes not like a power source or anything

MissSunFlower94

Mustang and Hawkeye's relationship is so layered and I love how complex it is. Is it romantic? Is it platonic? Is it genuine? Is it incredibly codependent? the answer is yes.

cosmotron

I really like the relationship Ed has with Hawkeye. Even as far back as the fifth episode when she draped her coat over Ed in the rain, or when she was honest about Nina's death. Ed seems to have a harder time opening up to male authority figures, likely a remnant of feelings from when Hohenheim left them, but he opens up much more easily to characters like Riza and Izumi.

cosmotron

Also, I'm sure I won't be the only one to mention it, but as excellent as this episode is it's still only a fraction of the Ishval content in the manga. Even if you read nothing else of the manga, I *really* recommend checking out its Ishval chapters. Volume 15 if you're looking for the official release. But some cut content includes: Interactions with Winry's parents A heartbreaking conversation with Dr. Knox and Dr. Marcoh Riza saving Roy and Hughes with her sniping skills More of Hughes' POV during the war, and how he dealt with it. You can see him in the scene where the High Priest tries to offer himself up to end the war, and in the manga you see that Hughes was the one who accepted the surrender and brought him to Bradley to try to end the war as well. And, one thing I'll get more detailed on. The anime leaves out the continuation of the eyes and 'the people you kill will never forget you' theme, with Roy killing what they believe to be the last Ishvalan survivor. And it's just...a wounded old man petting his dog. Roy asks him if he has any last words. The man sort of laughs, and spits at Roy. Then looks right up at him and says: "I will never forgive you." And then Roy burns him and the dog alive.

Arnold Kim

Great episode but this one was somewhat sanitized from the original manga actually. Originally it also included the scar backstory from episode 22, but there is a lot stuff that really fleshes out the different characters’ experiences that makes it even more emotionally draining. It really shows a fuller story of the war from multiple perspectives.

Ricardo Lopez

Hey kenny Picture Kimble the crimson alchemist talking but with blue hair and a bunch of hands around him particularly one covering his face

Mortis

You guys should watch the 4th ova now. It expands on the events of mustangs life as well as the ishvalan war. It’s a really powerful episode.

jolly

by the way kimbleys name is the crimson alchemist not the crimson blood alchemist!! you are getting it confused with the guy who looked like wario haha his name is the iron blood alchemist!

Tmatts

Really good points and discussion about "the good guys" having taken part in genocide. I think this plot can also really only work for the viewers because we have Ed and Al as our two MAIN protagonists who DID NOT take part in the war. I think that is an essential crux that holds it all together. While it can be a bit tough for us to reconcile the actions of some of our heroes, if Ed and Al can trust/"forgive" them (maybe forgive isn't necessarily correct here but I digress) then it makes it a little bit easier for the viewers to as well. It's also another essential attribute that really sets Ed and Al above the rest of the heroes in a way. Granted, Al isn't a part of the military and both he and Ed are too young to have taken part, so it's not like they chose not to participate, they just lucked out. Though, part of me wonders what would have happened in the war if Ed had been old enough to be a part of the military at the time....Scratch that, maybe I don't want to know actually.

imcalledgpk

To make everything even more confusing, Kimblee is actually supposed to be the Crimson Lotus Alchemist. The Japanese has him as guren, with the kanji for red/crimson and lotus (signifying explosions) they shortened it to just crimson in English to match syllables. On another note, I always sort of link Kimblee's style of alchemy to Gambit from the X-Men. That's always just been the connection my mind has made. Also, also, in a series full of excellent characters, Kimblee is one of my favorites. He seems chaotically evil, but it goes so much deeper than that.

TheDragonQueen1998

you guys should watch the FMA Brotherhood OVAs and the bloopers. The bloopers contain spoilers so watch them once your done with the series, but im quite sure the OVAS dont contain ones, so those can be safely watched right now.

AE Jones

Just to clarify, Mustang got everything he needed regarding alchemy from Hawkeye before the war. He doesn't need to keep her around to recharge or anything like that - and if he did, that massive scar would prevent it. So that part of their relationship has actually been closed for some time. One thing I like about this episode is that it kinda shows a bit more about Wraths mindset. When he talks with Ling, it seems like he's saying that kings are supposed to be considered above their people, but when he speaks to the Ishvalan leadership, he says that they, as rulers, don't matter more than the people they rule. So you can get the sense that it's not necessarily that he thinks rulers are important, it's that he doesn't actually believe in noble rulership as a concept. He didn't so much as _disagree_ with Ling on being a true king as much as he didn't believe Ling would actually be one when pressed. Considering Father, it's interesting that he has such a low view of rulers.

Jaelyn Mcgee
>>91315823

Yeah, as much as I love brotherhood, this is the only episode I don't like simply because it cut out so much from the manga and cut out a lot of great character moments. I feel that it really narrowed it down to one or two scenes from the manga which really endeavored to show everyone's perspective and missed a lot of great character moments. One of my favorites aside from the ones you mentioned was Armstrong participating in the genocide, having a change of heart and trying to let a mother and daughter escape, only for Kimbley to murder them and tell armstrong that he's lucky no one saw that so he wouldn't be court-martialed

Flavia Lobato

Noting something y’all said at the end, Mustang doesn’t need to keep Hawkeye around to keep doing flame alchemy thankfully. He carved the transmutation circle on his ignition gloves, it’s just the formula is on her back which he learned.

Haorii

Is it just me or is the Order 3066 connected to the Order 66 from Star Wars?! 😂

Jayquan Reddick

I see what y’all saying but I’m the same sense that’s saying everyone in the military should be charged because as a vet we def are ordered to do things that are against our moral compass

Mikey

Something I want to say is that Mustang has mastered flame alchemy so he no longer needs Hawk Eye to maintain his alchemy at this point