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RUBY FRANKE JOURNALS - Franke/Hildebrandt Doc dump (Patreon)

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Get ready for a lot of documents and more posts coming today. Sealed documents have been released in the Ruby Franke/Jodi Hildebrandt case and we have them all. We will be posting everything here. The video attached is audio of a jailhouse call, but open the attachment to read Ruby's Journal entries.

A Trigger warning on everything we share today: Child abuse I'll be on News Nation tonight on Banfield and John and I will be live tomorrow for Hidden Hour on YouTube as well.

Stay tuned...

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Ruby Franke compares herself to LDS Prophet Joseph Smith in jailhouse call

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Comments

TN Laura

Thank you for posting these. The details are horrifying. They were going to kill those kids.

Colleen Canning

I just listened to Kevin describe Jodi being possessed and cutting herself!?!! What the what!?!

Shelley Grigsby-Maxey

Thank you so much Lauren and John! I’m heartbroken watching how bad Russell and eve looked 🥲 they would absolutely have killed these poor children.

Laura Carson

Listening to Ruby's audio solidifies for me that there is no way she has made a significant change in her viewpoint. I know this is from the early days, but she is far too delusional. It would take years, and maybe never, for her to deal with her issues. Thanks as always for posting this up so quickly.

Denise Walsh

This will be my evening activity! ... Watching all the body cam now

Hilary Rank
>>133098795

I feel like I’m missing where things are posted. All I hear is the jailhouse call with Ruby?

TC

When Ruby wrote the following, I hope she had a damning sense of dejavú: “R doesn’t actually know what “jail” means, he has no comprehension what throwing your life away means. He just wants the immediate gratification of sitting in an air conditioned car ride to Juvie.”

Laura Carson
>>133098795

Yes, and were looking to take them to the AZ desert and make them live outside. Their poor little bodies were shutting down.

Carly Fontana

Is it Ruby’s journal? I thought so, but at one point it says “Ruby” as if the writer is talking about someone else

TN Laura
>>133099853

I hate the thought of her getting a soft sentence for expressing remorse and toeing the line. She’s dangerous to anyone in her care.

Annette Lyon

Holy moly. I’m heartbroken all over again for those kids.

Carly Fontana

Also - is the jail call after she plead and apologized? If so, doesn’t sound like she was sincere.

Kim Chapman

This is so sad. So much evidence against her. I hope she gets more time than some are speculating. She is evil.

Jamie Ferreira

Reading this is hard. She had absolutely no love for her kids and is completely delusional. Reminded me a lot of Lori Vallow. I hope she get’s sentenced to much longer than 4 years.

ShaRee

Well. That was nauseating.

Jamie Ferreira

I’m listening to her call after I read her journal. Hearing her cry about being misunderstood makes me want to throw up after reading how she treated her kids. Doesn’t she think they felt misunderstood? being told they were filled with demons or following satan. Besides just providing for your kids physically with food, water and a safe home you are also supposed to teach them how to regulate their emotions and comfort them. She was torturing them and then punishing them for their reactions. My mind is just blown on how any one can have that little motherly instinct or compassion. I just can’t wrap my brain around it. I can’t talk to my husband about it because he would be so horribly disgusted he would just tell me to not tell him anymore. Like he wouldn’t be able to even listen to a summary she’s so horrid. Sorry for my long post but I need to talk to people who read the same things I did about this case.

Laura Biddle

“I am completely misunderstood”

DaleK.

In the body cam where Jodi is on the phone with attorney there is much talk about AirBnB guests. The rental was apparently accessible from inside or very close to main residence. However I am not seeing any mention of these guests being interviewed despite one of the officers acknowledging their presence. I am wondering if they aren’t actually involved? I mean who tortures 2 screaming kids while you have supposed uninvolved strangers staying with you?

Cindy Ginter

Reading the journal about the physical and psychological torture Ruby perpetrated on her children was really upsetting. I think these are the tactics parents use to create future psychopaths. These children need a lot of loving, validating help, I fear for them if they don't get it. Ruby took all her unresolved pain and hatred out on these children. I have never read anything worse in my life.

Lauren Brown

Those poor kids couldn’t do anything right in Ruby’s eyes. Confess - you’re lying! Own it - you’re evil! I want to change - no you don’t! No wonder she writes about the kids being past feeling. What else can you do but give up at that point?

Elizabeth
>>133099853

i ABSOLUTELY agree. You don't get deprogrammed from such extreme views in such a short time and without DEEP and PROLONGED therapy (Therapy that does not involve religion.) She's everything she projected onto the children. Manipulative, and lying.

Laura Biddle

Specifically mentions meeting with Mormon leaders. BY NAME.

m.phebee.smith.m@gmail.com

The words that Ruby said to the court are just words they are hollow. She just followed the "Steps of Repentance" according to THE Church. You could just hear her go through those steps many young Mormons were taught as children. Yes, I believe she is sorry but only for getting caught. If not for that she would go on and on and on doing the some thing.

Kate FitzGerald

What does G-Jo mean in the document? When Ruby writes this it seems like she’s talking about Jodi. I got partway through this, have to take a break. This is sadism dressed up in religion. These women enjoyed this.

Life_w_Lora

This is heartbreaking. There was nothing either of those children could have done that would have ever been "good enough" to meet the expectations of Ruby or Jodi (if they say something that sounds right, Ruby then accuses them of only saying that for some other reason). Towards the end of the journal, in August she talks about having one of the children stand on one foot to put their sock on the other foot and how they can't do it...of course they can't, they are have extremely low muscle tone, are likely anemic and vitamin deficient, potentially even experiencing neurologic effects from malnourishment preventing them from completing the task. She complains about bathroom accidents, in addition to behavioral/psychological reasons for this, there are also very physical reasons these could be happening based on their nutrition, hygiene, and physical state. Her "discipline techniques" will not "fix" any this, it will only make it all worse. So much worse. I thank God the boy escaped when he did, he saved his and his sister's lives.

Kit Alloway

The saddest part of this for me is the realization that R was probably asking for a ride to the police station not so he could turn Jodi and Ruby in, but because he believed he would be put in jail for not repenting. Just breaks my heart.

Debra Middleton
>>133202287

Kit, what a heartbreaking realization. Naive children believing their mom. I pray they are able to heal from this unfathomable abuse

Vanessa French
>>133189353

She starved them and then gives them black beans and lentils and brown rice all in one go. Yeah… you’ll shit yourself after that. You can tell, the kids are just tying to survive. And she weaponizes it against them over and over.

liz miller
>>133102943

I'm not totally sure but I believe there were two or three jail calls that have been most widely shared. The first was with Kevin where she talks about adults not understanding that kids can be full of evil. I believe that was a very early-on call. Later there's a call with her sister where she talks about Jodi having plead guilty. She also talks, in the call with her sister, about what she thinks the judge is looking for from her which is remorse. I believe the call with her sister is just before she plead and apologized in court. I hope this helps.

liz miller
>>133098950

20/20 just did a documentary where they show a lot of details. The full episode is available on Hulu. Season 46, episode 22, Ruby Franke: From Momfluencer to Felon. I hope this helps.

liz miller

I shudder to think what's been blacked out in the journal pages. Does anyone know who decides what's been blacked out? I assume it's a joint effort by both attorneys?

Bobbi

I think Ruby and Kevin initially believed that Ruby would be released from jail pending trial and they would take the kids and get out of Dodge. In their jailhouse call they, like the Adelsons, are talking in code. They are very concerned about finding that bag of money that Kevin says he "very much thinks they will need." He says he's "gone dark" and no one will be able to "find him." Ruby says they have enough curriculum materials to teach the kids "for a few years." I think Kevin freaked out about Sherri taking his stuff because she may have taken the money AND the Pen Papers -- two things they desperately needed to take with them on the run.

Genny

Here’s what I hope Lauren and colleagues will be able to figure out as people drill down to some specifics of the journal and info from Kevin’s second interview. Why did Ruby and Jodi meet w LDS leaders in Spring 2023 and why are those meetings the intro to the diary? Were they discussing opening a youth program using the demonic “intervention” program test run on the kids Summer 2023? What the heck is with Pam? I mean the apology at sentencing was so obviously a message. What was the proposed merging of cults summit organized by the Hannas? And who is the other leader/cult? I do think the scribed 4-5 hours vision sessions with Ruby, Pam and Jody sound a lot like the Ketamine vision sessions reported here in another case.

Sara Sandin
>>133725676

Oh I definitely want to know more about this Pam and her involvement! She’s been around for ages it seems, Jessi had nothing good to say about her. She knew the kids were in danger and didn’t take action.

Sara Sandin
>>133174389

This was an interesting point. Her ‘speech’ did sound like some specific format (and an inappropriate one at that) that I couldn’t pin down.

Yery

Wait...I am confused, was this after he said that they were going to get a divorce? This whole conversation felt like codes, also how her voice changes when she says that "I am a good girl, I don't do naughty things." The part about Sharri being in Kahoot with Ruby's family feels like a bunch of conspiracy theories. Going to be reading the journal these next few days.

Jeanya

I just joined because even though Dr John’s analysis of the finding of EF was really tough to watch, I would not have understood the true effect of the isolation theory unless he had explained this research. Even though I did have to look away a couple of times, Dr John was humble enough to say that he was reminded of this research and didn’t get EF’s reaction straight away. I cried and cried for those two kids. Thank goodness the bodycam was a bit fuzzy and those wonderful first responders, they got it. The policeman who slid her the drink and pizza was right there when arrogant Ruby was asked a few questions, I think he had some unrepeatable thoughts 💪

MC

Does anyone know - do Patreon members get access to the members only videos on YouTube?

Hidden True Crime
>>134020170

Patreon will get access to all of them (it’s a new thing we’ve started) but YouTube members will be able to see them live and then they will be posted directly after on Patreon. We will also continue patreon only episodes