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PATREON ONLY Livestream with Dr John and Lauren (Patreon)

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Tune in right after Hidden Hour concludes for a Q and A with our Patreon gems! https://streamyard.com/c8imqtpz3d

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MAY 11, 2024 -PATREON LIVESTREAM

Join us here right after Hidden Hour concludes!

Comments

Wendybird

Mormons in my experience do not discuss lust. It’s either an elevated super spiritual religious thing… or… lascivious whoredom stuff. We don’t explain the normalcy of just good old LUST. Too me the Dumbell couple are perfect examples. They couldn’t just have an affair and eff it out. The hotness dies out on its own and families don’t have to be destroyed. Licensed Professional Counselor here. Luv your work.

Holly Hoch

I think laughter is a natural response to deal with grief and horror. When our nineteen year old daughter Caroline died very suddenly and unexpectedly, we (my husband and I and our other children) cried all the time, but we also laughed at every funny memory. And we laughed at things we didn’t expect to as well. So I think our laughing at the texts tonight helps us deal with the horrors of this crime. Not a psychologist here but speaking from my own experience.

Kathy

Are you coming on tonight ?

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

Is it possible that for Lori she is addicted to men being obsessed with her. ( multiple husband 's) and for Chad he is like a emotionally stunted adolescent hungry for sex and obsessed with her sexually?

Amy N.

QQQQ :Do you think that one of the reasons Mel G was so calm and cool on the stand during the cross is because she has high psychopathic traits?

Polly Olson

QQQ- I wish we could see Chad while his sister in law and brother in law testified? What was Chad doing ????

Tova

I’m curious about Chads reaction to the reading of the love story. He has to see that people are not only embarrassed but horrified.

Elizabeth

Glad to be here!

Mc Spunky

I have my Loinfire ready

Marta Fonda

Has anyone checked to see if it was Alex or Chad’s voice that called into Banner Life Insurance for Charles and had them assign “him” a password? Would t this be good for the criminal case if it was Chad??

Lu Holt

Lauren and Dr. John will be here shortly.

Mary Salgado

I think we're early. YouTube ran a bit over

Lisa Fowler

You’re a little bit early. Hidden Hour went long due to reading James and Elaina.

Kimm Baker

Loinfire!!🩳🩳🩳🩳

Linda

Hello

RobynB

That was exactly what I needed, I love these two, they’ve worked so hard to bring all this knowledge to us!! We’ve all laughed, cried and learned together.

Wohol Diana

I think we are waiting for them to switch over from last live.

Elizabeth

BTW, I'm Ewrites on YouTube. I am also a Child Development specialist with a Masters whose specialty is children under five with autism. I'm a HUGE reader and I ADORE listening to Dr John's analysis. He's made me buy so many books. Thanks to you both for all you do to bring sanity and love to this awful case. (And yes, we need to laugh sometimes too). Xx

Katie Alosi

I feel like laughing at Chad and Lori's ridiculousness, lessened their power in some way. They are monsters, but we can banish them from darkening our minds and live in joy.

Ruth Claessens

QQQ: I seem to recall MG saying she had a child on the spectrum. Was she referring to David Warwick’s adult son?

Dee Maynard

Are they having this or is it too late?

Cindy Ginter

Dr. John what was the book called by the woman who analyzed Q anon??

Elizabeth

I'm hearing you!!!

Linda

Hello John and Lauren

Leigh Terry

I can see and hear you now.

Katie Alosi

The first thing I heard, was that you couldn't be here long.

Susan Ragsdale

What do you think Loris reaction to Chad’s turn about is?????

Erica A. Zwick

Chad told Suzanne Freeman, whose books he published, that he and Tammy were soulmates. “He would tell me she was his soulmate, and he knew her in the pre-existence, and when he met her, they knew each other."

Elizabeth

Can we ask questions here? Sorry confused!

g dubs

Push the play button everyone!

Stephanie Ketter

Do you think Chad feels embarrassment or pride when the inner workings of his teachings are discussed so openly?

Holly Hoch

Figuring patreon out. This is my first time on.

JudyV

During some of the reading in court Chad appeared smug although the courtroom isn’t all that easy to see. Did you observe any smugness Lauren?

Tara Lee

New Member...

Sue

Love, loved your Loin Fire song.

Wohol Diana
>>137766498

Thanks for sharing. My 17 yo daughter was killed in 2013. I keep trying to tell my other children and the rest of her dad’s family it’s ok to laugh and talk about her. It’s like it’s a dirty word to them and it’s broken my heart. I can’t say her name when remembering a moment without someone having a fit.

g dubs

Is this considered "the chat" for this stream? First time user here....

Yery

Just got here. So glad to make it! Thank you both for all of your hard work🙏🏽✨

Katie Wilkinson Paulsen

Do you think Chad really understands the enormity of the situation he is in? Facing the death penalty? He seems so unbothered by it all

Yery

Julie Rowe genuinely terrifies me. Please be careful.

Kimm Baker

What's the chat link?

Basia

you're both looking great!

g dubs

Can someone tell me if this comment stream is considered the "chat" on here? First time patreon user here...

Sue

Right, Julie Rowe threatening and naming names.

Susan Ragsdale

Can you speculate on Loris reaction to Chad’s throwing her under the bus?

Ruth Claessens

Is it true that wringing your hands is showing guilt?

Holly Hoch
>>137766498

Oh Diana, I’m so sorry. Our Caroline died in 2009 and it’s still fresh. We talk about her all the time. Tears are healing but so is laughter. Sending you big hugs.

Marci Schwartz

I’m here just listening. Ty for everything

Marci Schwartz

She said that she was coming for Chad & Julie J

Davis 🐊

??? I can’t understand why Chad would go forward and not take a lifetime plead. Does he realize what his adult children are being put through if they have to testify, all of Tammy’s family and the Daybells. I’m a Patreon newbie

Davis 🐊

🐊 Chad & Lori have done so much harm to many, why would he continue to hurt all family? And TY for much needed humor

Marci Schwartz

It was good to laugh about it!! Love the disco 💃🏻 mix that was done!

Michelle Franco

Do we need to hit the stream yard link to to watch or hear? Newbie here.

rivergirl

Well, I have to run. Hope I can catch up on this later. Later on, Patreon! :)

Davis 🐊

🐊 your respect and genuine caring comes through. I’m 1st time Pat user

Judy N.

Newbie also

Holly Hoch
>>137767921

It’s my first time but I just clicked on the May 11 livestream and it took me to the patreon stream on YouTube. Only fifty can get into the stream yard at a time so you don’t need to use that link unless you want to talk with them.

Lynne Ballman

What relatives of Chad’s are attending the trial?

Lynnette coster

We have Qanons in here? They deserve to be laughed at…

Sue

I’ve known a few people that followed Q. Scary and sad, as well. Chad called Julie Rowe dark. Interesting.

Tamee

Awww. His little "are we done" made me think of my siblings qhen we would go on long trips when we were young (I'm the oldest of 7). Hang in there lil guy!

Lynnette coster

The children have already cut themselves off from their own relatives.

Lisa Fowler

I have been struck again and again in this case by how many of the people in that community are truly, deeply kind.

Holly Hoch

I think the kids are in denial because how can they face the truth?

double espresso

Tonight's show added a whole other layer to this tragic madness. I wish the prosecution could add Dr John's insights - especially the part when Lori gives Chad a blessing and the realization that that was the moment when Chad gained control. I laughed and learned. TY!

Lynnette coster

Mormons are particularly adept at avoiding unpleasant or uncomfortable social interactions.

Terrie

Hi Jeanne Hansen and Laura Ferris I was not able to write the complete address down that was flashed up. Can you please send me again? Thank you so much🌸

Juanita Stamper

Most children have been "groomed" by the parents to take their side, from birth.

Elizabeth

I know it's hard, or impossible for ya'll to talk about politics, but to me, the radicalization of politics happening right now are such an important part of this story.

Penny Jones
>>137767435

Loved the program. Thank you for all you both do to help us understand the situation. It is a hard pill to swallow. Smile.

Stephanie Eubanks

I’ve wondered about the LDS women and how they’re coped. So many around Chad and Lori lost their faith or it was a catalyst to go down a new path of discovery of some sort. Thats a tough transition, my heart goes out to them.

Terrie
>>137768434

So very 😢 sad. I believe in time, they will begin to want to know the truth and have support from those that love them. Family ties are a lifetime. At least this is what I’m hoping for.

Elizabeth

As an adoptee myself, what a beautiful story.

Mary Salgado

How do you connect to ask a question?

Wendybird

Shared fantasy and love bombing is classic Narcissistic behavior. He loves the word “undeniable”. Hmmm

Mary Salgado

I think it's Lori's strategy to throw her under the bus to save Chad. Her Prophet

Mary Salgado

She wouldn't let her defense do much related to Chad.

Judy N.

On the lighter side, it was Lori, Melanie Gibb and the LDS church in the portal with a paint gun

Tammy G

I am not connected to the case aka Tammy G on streamyard

Soozie Bee

Uncle Rex is really ticked that Chad is putting his kids on the stand!

Terrie
>>137767921

Yes you do. It will take you into the wait mode to speak with Dr. John and Lauren face to face. You’ll be able to ask, comment and speak with them. You can hear others ask there questions and answers. Hope this helps. Welcome🌷

Lynnette coster

I’ll be really irritated if they play ‘Mormon nice’ with the Daybell children

Terrie
>>137767397

Hit link below to speak with Lauren and Dr. John face to face for questions. You’ll be able to hear others in the backstage. Have great night🌸

Elizabeth

is there any proof that Chad attempted to add Lori to his marriage with Tammy? I mean bring polygamy ?

Terrie
>>137767365

Hi Elizabeth Yes go to the true crime stream link. Click and it will take you into backstage and Lauren / Dr John will call on you. You see and speak to them face to face. Enjoy 🌸

Juanita Stamper

She had multiple marriages amd much more experience than Chad. And as an old saying goes, "she took him around the world", and he lost all common sense.

Terrie
>>137767272

Hi Dee When you come on there is a streamyard link button you’ll need to click into. It will take you back stage to wait for your turn to speak face to face with Dr. John and Lauren. 🌸

Judy N.
>>137767427

My thoughts were that Chad was feeling proud of his self. He sat there with his chin up and that smug look on his face.

Terrie
>>137767114

The link to the streamyard is still up. You can scroll up and click in to backstage. You’ll be able to speak to Dr. John and Lauren face to face for questions 🌷

Terrie
>>137767152

Hi Bonnie Did you connect into the streamyard link true crime set up. Scroll up or down until you find. Click into it for backstage wait to speak with Dr. John and Lauren face to face for questions. Have a good evening 🌷

Sue

144! It is a sign!

Terrie
>>137767161

Hi Wohol You’ll need to click into the true crime streamyard connect button. It takes you into backstage to wait for your turn to speak face to face with Dr. John and Lauren. Hope you have a wonderful night🌸

CJ

New member here. Thank you Lauren and Dr. John for all your hard work

Marci Schwartz

Have a Happy Mother’s Day Lauren. Sending you extra love and prayers since your mother is struggling with her health. And Sending Dr. John extra love and comforting thoughts as this is his first Mother’s Day without his Mother. You two are loved ❤️

Colleen Canning

Megan's comments made me sob 😥 It's good to have a community of folks that seem to understand a lot of the awful experiences life can offer.

Katerina Kanavos

I am a first time user here as well and missed it due to not having the proper equipment for it… wasn’t prepared to be on camera either lol anyhow, I truly appreciate all you two do! Happy Mother’s Day Lauren! Have a day of complete blessings! Be good at being blessed lovely lady, you so deserve it! ❤️💎🙏🏻🦋

Katerina Kanavos

Oh and I have so missed seeing you Dr John! Love getting your thoughts and insights into these issues that are so often total chaos and unimaginable to most of us. Big hugs and extra prayers for comfort on your first Mother’s Day without your precious Mom. ❤️🙏🏻

Cassandra Tee
>>137769301

Didn't one of tge witnesses or maybe I heard it in a podcast...mentioned that they spoke with WmEmma shortly after her mother's death and her biggest fear was around Chad remarriage, and sge mentioned because sge didn't believe in polygamy. Which makes one think tgat Chad had mentioned polygamy to tge family leading up to Tammy's daath

Mary Salgado

He actually seems to show pride when it's being read in trial. Watch how he pays attention

Jen Linschoten

Because the radical and fringe are devout, attend weekly, hold callings, and pay tithing.

Jen Linschoten

Would LOVE to see you on Mormon Stories!

Cassandra Tee

Thanks John and Lauren I can't get my phone to connect so couldn't on to get to ask a question. Which would of been fun as I was walking my Dog and out hanging clothes while listening. But it's been great a arvo ( here in Australia) of live. Happy Mother's Day

Lala Del Bray

Agree- Prior looks like he's defeated and tired. I think it's getting to him.

RobynB

I’m on the east coast so I finished listening to the Q&A, this morning. I have to say being one of the earliest followers of HTC and checking out for a few years for some personal wellness time that you all have staid the course and evolved to something really special. I love the interaction, the GEMS and community it has created.

Heidi

Home schooling regulations are different state to state. Some states have little to no oversight. There are some groups trying to regulate it more.

Heidi

I haven’t taught in Arizona, Texas, or Idaho. In my state previous schools send IEPs to the new school. There has sometimes been trouble when the previous school doesn’t forward the records and we are “flying blind.” If the parent doesn’t mention anything, there is no way for the new school to know. There also are rules about forwarding student info without parent permission (I don’t know the school to school specific because I’m not involved in that). It is very possible that a parent could say they are moving/ home schooling and then drop off the map. It would be hard for a concern teacher/ school to follow up (I think). Call child protective services? Does anyone know more? I’m only peripheral—as a teacher.

Robin Murray

Thank you so much for this talk. I found Hidden True Crime through Dr. John's excellent analysis of the Murdaugh family. I went back this week and re-listened to the Murdaugh episodes. There are similar themes of family secrets and family shame and obstruction of justice and living above the law. But the key theme of manipulation and control is so concerning.

Laura Carson

In my book, anything that makes fun of Chad is a good thing as he would hate it.

Laura Carson
>>137768998

One thing I have learned from the trial is that Tammy was universally loved and I wonder if Chad hated that.

m.phebee.smith.m@gmail.com

John has it the "church" believes it has the perfect everything and the crazy uncles are wreaking havoc everywhere. Everyone is a step from being the crazy uncle.

liz miller

I'd love to get Dr. John's take on the mormon teachings that masturbation is bad, etc...when it comes to properly teaching boys about sexual feelings. Is Chad developmentally behind because of this kind of teaching? and are a lot of mormon men sexually frustrated?

Pppmomof3

Did I miss the discussion about Chad’s hands? 😂🤷‍♀️ Happy Mothers Day!

Stephanie Eubanks

I think we go back and forth about Chad because he is both….a conman, manipulator AND he gaslights his own self into truly believing.

Jeanya

No guilt Dr John, I think we all go through the ups and downs of this horrible case. It is truly unbelievable how isolated some people become in their own delusions. Lauren, do you ever think that Kay would tell us a little about Charles? I loved how Tammy's friends & co-workers told us about her. She was the worker bee in that family.

Ausiemoon

I’m in Australia and homeschooled my last 4 children. Best thing I ever did! Was only visited once by an “inspector “. I proudly showed her the curriculum I had handpicked, but her only comment was “when are you doing Aboriginal studies?” I kid you not!!! As for the reading of the loin fire texts in court. I was watching Chad closely, and he seemed to be proud of his literary skills!! Thankyou Lauren and Dr John for your coverage of this case. I’m fascinated by the fact that so many people were involved in these tragedies and did nothing. Unbelievable!!

Allison Carman

I just joined your Patreon and I'm happy to be able to comment. This story is just amazing to me and have been listening to the trial in the evenings and your podcast and YouTube as much as I can. I think we have a sex addict that is hiding in this ridiculous religion. I think Chad has been like this all his life and agree that he "settled" in his mind for Tammy. He is totally insecure and trying to get approval through this religious BS as well as having this life with Lori, his idea of a goddess. He seems to think "this could never happen to me" like she would never be someone in his life and so it has to take absolute priority in his life. I have been in 2 marriages with sex addicts that were narcissists and watching them be completely obsessed with sex that they couldn't be successful in life. They literally could not hold a job or do well because their sex thoughts were so distracting. Of course finding me to marry who is very similar to Tammy sans the LDS beliefs, I held down the job or made the majority of the money. The fantasy life is is where they live.

Jenny Wren

I just watched your lunch live today, Lauren. I think I was naive. I had never even considered the possibility that Tylee had been assaulted before the final assault. My heart breaks for her.

Chrissy Jackson

Just rejoined Patreon as I love your work. Had to take a break from this case as it affected me deeply and I’m 1,000s of miles away in the U.K. What I have never been able to understand is how well educated privileged people who grew up in a faith that reinforces the family unit and community values, then go on to kill four of their family members just for money and sex. It’s such an extreme reaction that they jumped into feet first without exploring any other options to be together. How do two people who apparently have never killed before then in their 40s/50s become killers on this scale. I cannot wrap my head around Alex’s mentality as he had nothing to gain from murdering on their behalf. Lori and Chad had a motive but what was Alex’s motive? I would love to hear your views on this

Drkatiedds

Lauren, I adore Dr. Jon, and the unique perspective he gives to true crime. Don’t let any negative reviews get you down! I love your content too! I have been loving the trial updates and you are a force (not to be confused with the storm 🤦‍♀️). Keep doing what you do well, girlfriend!!

Drkatiedds

One question for Dr John…… You both discussed Chads dislike of children? I work with children both as a dentist, and as a coach. I often feel like kids are much more perceptive than adults and can read people pretty well as they don’t have confirmation bias and go off more of how adults treat them or connect with him. I am guessing he is definitely not a favorite uncle and called out by the especially precocious kids. I am guessing he gets outsmarted by then and hates them for it, and they are not impressed by his bs.

Marybeth

I love this...and I love dr john and lauren you all rock!! Am glad to be a member of the 144.

Lynette Butler

NEW ❓ ❓ ❓Dr. John. I love you both. I have loved your Manson references. Do you think that if Chad is found guilty instead of thinking of himself EVERY as a Manson he will think of himself as a David seduced by Bathsheba, even though Bathsheba had no choice in the matter. I think his kids think that. Just as I think Lori thinks of herself as a kind of joan of arc ❓ ❓ ❓ would love to hear your thoughts on this kind of grandiosity ❓

CG1

I think Chad, had a testimony, of the LDS church, at one point, in his life- but, his ego/ pride, made him create a fantasy world, for him, in order to build himself up. So, in other words- I think Chad is an idiot, and got in too deep, with his fantasy world. He is evil.

CG1

Also, he is a coward- so, after his fantasy world, got out of control- he hides, and blames everyone, else. I’m sorry, but, I have ZERO sympathy for, for Daybell.