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Thoughts on Julie Rowe's Near Death Experience Prediction (Patreon)

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Lauren sat John down and had him listen to one of Julie's most recent tiktok videos. 

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Stacy McFall

Thank you for sharing. I'm a new member and your podcast has truly helped me. I appreciate your thoughtfulness and sense of humor. I love the dynamic duo❤️💖

TriciaTheTrucker

I saw those!!! There are 3 TikTok videos on this. How can anyone predict a NDE just because they're having surgery... Arrogant!

TriciaTheTrucker

And what's with all the random rattling off of numbers? 🤪 Plus, if she can heal others with energy work why can't she just heal herself so she doesn't need surgery....

Lonna Price-Maylone

(WYNative-on YouTube) That was exactly what I thought, Lauren, that I don’t know what kind of surgery that would have you under anesthesia for eight hours, would let you go home the same day.

Shannon Moak

I truly can’t understand how anyone would follow her! She clearly has mental issues, and loves the attention - even if it’s negative attention.

Katie Marlowe

I love your impromptu episodes. Settling in now for a listen. 🧐🤔😊

Evelyn Yallen

Man, I’d hate to be her surgeon. Hasn’t even operated and she’s already predicting a near death experience. As for having 7 NDEs, maybe she’s working her way up to 144,000 of ‘em.

Katie Marlowe

Lauren, I totally thought the same! She’s buying time to recover to avoid having to appear with obvious facial-reconstruction-bandages!

Cindy

Is she divorced from first hubby?

Jennifer Priebe

Willing to bet she never visits any of her followers in the hospital or cares one bit about anyone else's surgery!

lil brans

Oh right I was just thinking it was the .....year of the 4... 🤷‍♀️

Jennifer Priebe

John's description of why people follow Julie reminded me of Trump and his supporters.

Nora Ann

There are people who come out of anesthesia with a psychosis. It doesn’t last long and it is very scary to watch. The patient doesn’t remember it. Maybe This happens to Julie.

Marcella Able

I feel that Chad saw the money Julie was making off of very lost people & Chad thought hey I need to jump on that money train. Thank you Lauren & Dr John for your insight. Love being a Patreon member!

Crystal Swannack

She MUST have a serious serious mental illness. She MUST.

Nora Ann

I too feel sorry about her. I feel even more sorry for her children having been raised by her. Why can’t people who love her make her get help? And I think she does scam people and that is evil. Why do so many people fall for her??

Crystal Swannack

And it's the year 5 according to her math. 2021= 5 And actually 11-23-2021 =12 1+2=3 That's I would be at the year of the five and her number would be three, according to her little math theory here. So she's incorrect on her own math.

Tracy Warberg Holliday

Lauren, I love your giggle! I had to pause the recording until I quit laughing! It was the weirdest TikTok I’ve ever listened to.

Nora Ann

She’s going to portal to the outer reaches of whoever minds that believe her and actually pay her money to do energy work on them. She is going to find out that she needs to save the children from the sex rings and is going to name names after she speaks to a lawyer. She is going to see herself running for office. It’s double invasion with Russia invading the east coast and China invading the west coast.

Kathleen Suter

Uggghhhhhhh. Listening to this crazy woman's is soooooo hard to do... 7 near death? Holy Moly , She. Really believes this doesn't she?? Yikes...

Shay Wimmer

The only thing I was seeing while you were talking about her going through portals was Dr strange from the avengers…. How do you get help for someone like that?

Bernadine

Guys I love numerology!!! Am I crazy!?

Michelle Matas

I think I deleted my first post GRRR that must mean something, maybe Julie portaled in ... That Julie ... I have this all figured out. The year of the Four. JOHN = 4 (year of the 4). JULIE = 5 This is bad news for Julie, she needs to Portal BACK (4) in TIME (4) to the Garden of EDEN (year of the 4) to become ADAM (the first 4) to one up JOHN who is a disciple of Jesus (a BIG 4) and a bigger 4 because of BABE (double 4+4). So if Julie can become ADAM in EDEN she is a double 4 .... well you do the math ... but in all seriousness, I think the poor gal is lost, and I think it's Thanksgiving, she might be alone and she might be scared about whatever surgery is before her OR she got in a fight with one of her kids and is playing the manipulation card. I hope she gets help.

Paula McDaniel

Oh, they plan on giving her some gooood drugs so she can have a good ‘trip’ and will have some amazing ‘experience’!! 🤣😂

Gail Clark

Well I think Julie flies to the planet Uranus in the constellation Chad. If she will be in surgery for 8 hours, the new hubby must be paying for a boob job, nose job, liposuction and butt implants. Seriously, I don't wish ill health on Julie it must be hard to be that ill. To the Mathias family, a wonderful holiday

Karin Baird

She probably portaled to sit on your shelf and listen to you talk about her and felt seen and glorified in her narcissistic Me Me Me. She could be flying around looking for a cure for ills.

Lori B

You should have played the one with spewing off all the numbers!! Lol

Ashley Kane

Ok, so I am sure we can now all sleep better knowing she will be out for 14days!!

Ashley Kane

Maybe she is going to jail and see Chad!!

Richard Betts

There’s no surgery, she just wants time off over thanksgiving!

B Sprak

Two things are perfectly clear: 1) Julie is horrible at math 2) Julie has no idea what a near death experience actually is, that it's a clinical state, is documented in your health record, and includes clinical death from which you may not return. They resuscitate you, which can include AED shocks to restart your heart. If the near death experience (NDE) is not diagnosed clinically, than in Julie's case it's just more traveling. She can think she had one, but without resuscitation, you just die.

Jean Georgitso

I think she is going to be unavailable with her new family for Thanksgiving and cannot let them see how crazy she is.

Jimi

My prediction: She’s getting a BBL. Explains why she’s put on weight prior to surgery. And….she’s so vain! 🤣

RobynB

Most people under anesthesia get a nap...but not Julie Rowe, she zips around the universe, how special. If I rolled my eyes any harder I’d dislodge something so I’ll just wish her happy travels! 😏. Happy Thanksgiving, Matthias Family, time to bust out the pie pants! Hope you enjoy your holiday and long weekend. 😊

CuriousinColorado

I don’t have TikTok… do you get comments? If so, are they supportive? Is it bad that I am hoping someone will share where she went? 😂

Andrea Rice

Omg thank you so much! Christmas came early.

Jenie Myers

There are two more to go with that. Part 2 and Part 3. Also She is trying to numerology with the crazy numbers

Janae Anne

She should go to Best Buy and get the early Black Friday deals.

Jenie Myers

I truly hope she Ticktoks on pain meds! Maybe she might be honest for once

Sylvia See

I question Julie’s follower’s mental health more than I question Julie’s mental health. I mean Julie is just doing what is working for her. If having a near death experience helps Julie sell herself, then why not. I mean she doesn’t actually have to have a NDE, just claim to have a NDE. Julie is a scammer. And scammers scam. Its her followers that are nuts.

Sylvia See

And Happy Thanksgiving HTC!

CuriousinColorado
>>72395190

Were there any numbers we aren’t supposed to pay attention to? 😂. I probably shouldn’t be amused, but talk about near death porn! 😂😂😂😂

CuriousinColorado

So who plays Julie Rowe in the movie when this is all over? 😂.

Sue Komernicky

I bet she will portal to North Korea to team up with Kim Jomg-Un

Alicia Madsen

She advertises here in slc all the time for weekend energy work it's expensive or I would go for a good laugh she's nuts and it's scary to me how Many people pay this kind of money Thanks for sharing your thoughts sounds like Chad copied Julie

Julie Holden

I think Julie might travel to the Bermuda Triangle. Pick up a few new cute pairs of shorts. Drink some nice cocktails. Have conversations with all the people from the past who are stuck there. What better way to spend vacation time?

Julie Holden
>>72389876

But I think it's just, like, energy safehouses, and people's souls -- y'know -- in the *ether* who she's gathering funds, to save. Not *physical people* so much as ectoplasmic beings, and it takes a LOT of money to set up virtual, um, refugee charities. Just saying.

Alicia Madsen

She has them on her Instagram I can't follow her tik tok it's just too much but check out her Instagram she charges like $1200 for a day of energy Someone is paying a lot of money she is mentally ill it's sad

Melinda Ngawaka

I think she’s already had her pre-med when recording this🤪

Chelsea Jackman

I have to wonder if Julie hooked Chad up with portals… Personally, I thought dental surgery, but who knows? The plastic surgery guess is equally viable. I think what she meant to say is that she’s going to Burke Williams. Whenever I go there, it feels like an out-of-body experience! Happy Thanksgiving to HTC and subscribers.

Chelsea Jackman
>>72388580

I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing, but try to not get political online, unlike Julie, Trump, and Trump supporters!

Alicia Walker

When Dr. John talks about her followers being so invested all one has to to so look at the Qanon (sp?) followers at the grassy knoll waiting for JFK and JFK Jr. to show up. These people are waiting for the dead to rise again. At least Julie Rowes followers are following someone that is living. Also re people being too invested….are you following the Theranos trial? General Schultz had his grandson and the other whistle blower BEGGING him to quit the board and explaining to him that it was all a fraud. And General Schulz stayed with Elizabeth Holmes while his son and grandson wracked up over $400,000 in legal bills. Tyler Schultz ‘s (his grandson) main reason for going to the WSJ was he didn’t want his grandfathers legacy tied to this Silicon Valley massive fraud case. General Schultz was not bipolar. But he got all his friends to invest in Theranos and at one time his stock in Theranos was worth over $40 million. Your reputation and greed can also blind you and cause you to double down. When I had surgery I just went under. Next time I want to go to Italy for a while. I have totally wasted all my kidney stone surgery. 😉

tora Johns

I'm also obsessed with the theronos case. Have you listened to Tyler Shultz's podcast book? It's really good (only available on audible). It an amazing case and would be great one for Dr John to give us his opinion on - so many characters to analyse. As John Carreyrou said, I don't think this started off being a massive fraud, I think Elizabeth initially wanted it to work and was committed to the good cause but it snowballed and one cover up had to cover up another cover up and it ended up being this multi billion dollar fraud, can't wait for the outcome of the trial. I don't think it will work blaming Sunny though but with connections I'm guessing she'll walk off with some kind of deal. The Forbes guy (name forgotten) was the last witness on the prosecution and his evidence was good. Are you getting the trial updates from John Carreyou's podcast?

Char

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, from Phoenix, Arizona. I hope everyone has a wonderful time with family and friends and that this Thanksgiving will be one of your most memorable ever! Love to all the HTC family! Happy Thanksgiving, Lauren, Dr. John and little Banks! Charlotte Kidwell. 💗💗💗

TriciaTheTrucker

I think she'll be traveling to a galaxy far far away.... And I think this time she will meet different beings on different planets that are not humans. And she'll learn to speak different languages that I really really hope she shares with us in TikTok 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

Stacie

Whoa, my birthday is November 23. I never knew it was so significant! 😂 But in all seriousness, it is very sad to hear these incoherent ramblings, and to know so many people fall for her con. Thank you for this analysis. It also explains why people in general are losing family members to other wild conspiracy theories of the present moment.

Shelly

Wow I heard the same thing as Lauren except, I don't think the new boyfriend is paying for the plastic surgery. I think she financed it and the new NDE is going to be her next conference tour draw to pay it off.

Carly Fontana

I’m cracking up because my 5 year old even makes patterns out of nothing. She was excited today because she has 20 markers and it’s the year 2021. Both have 20s!!!! Haha

RobynB

Hi Patreon friends! Let me get the important thing first then I’ll tell you what I think JR is teeing up…I’d bet lunch on it! Important (first) You all are the best and brightest I have seen anywhere on you tube and/or Patreon! I hope you have a wonderful thanksgiving and if the opportunity presents itself you invite or are invited to someone’s home this holiday season. I appreciate all of you and love reading your comments and sharing my love of true crime with all of you. Thank you so much for sharing and I’m so happy to be part of the group! Julie Rowe (second) I’m rubbing my 🔮 (whoop Julie just zipped by). I’ve been thinking about it and I think Lauren called it, face lift and maybe some other cosmetic procedures. It would explain 1) outpatient timeline 2)setting up being out of pocket for a specific time (healing) 3) her setting the stage for NDE. I’ll make a prediction of my own: Watch for a go fund me account or something similar to generate revenue. JR is first and foremost a scam artist, she is going to milk this for all it’s worth. No doubt she’ll be back looking like she’s been touched by God (aka face lift) then she’ll go on the circuit and maybe write a book about her latest “NDE”. This lady clearly has mental health issues but first and foremost she is teeing up a scam…

Kelsey McMillan

I respect and appreciate all of the insight from both Lauren and John and I am a huge fan of their content. BUT it is interesting to hear Lauren laughing/giggling at how crazy & out there Julie Rowe's beliefs are while she is LDS. The way Lauren views Julie's beliefs is the way that many nonreligious people view anyone who believes in a mainstream religion's beliefs. Being a Mormon requires suspension of critical thinking IMO. For instance, LDS people believe Joseph Smith used seer stones after an angel visited him to write the book of Mormon. That sounds as crazy to me as portals. I am not trying to insult Lauren or anyone else who is LDS, I just wanted to point out the parallel. All religious beliefs sound INSANE to those not in the group. I think Julie Rowe and the Mormon church are both batshit crazy myself but I respect everyone's right to believe in what they want. Where Julie Rowe is more of a menace is her scamming of these people who are obviously prone to fantastical thinking since they are mormons. She has found a group of people who are easily susceptible to her bs and it is sad the way she takes advantage of them. She belongs on The Opportunist podcast.

CuriousinColorado

I’m kind of surprised Dateline made her out to be somewhat sane. Wonder if they may ever visit this story looking at Julie’s contribution to the outcome.

Hidden True Crime
>>72430764

Hi Kelsey, thanks for sharing your thoughts, and starting this dialogue. You state: “Being a Mormon requires suspension of critical thinking IMO.” Here’s some critical thinking: Is it possible that people who adhere to religion hold different beliefs that occur on a broad continuum of different perspectives? For example: in the Mormon church, not every single person believes the same things about Joseph Smith or how the church began. In some cases—people find value in the community, and their religious heritage, without clinging to every single tenant of a religion. You seem to think that everyone who is Mormon believes the same thing, and that we are dogmatic about beliefs. It would be similar to thinking all Muslims are terrorists, when in fact this isn’t true, and there is a wide array of Muslim beliefs. I hope you can appreciate that there is a wide divergence in individuals beliefs in each individual’s approach to their religion. If others can laugh at some of the things Julie Rowe does and says, I’m not sure why I’m not allowed to as well.

Hidden True Crime
>>72428787

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Happy Thanksgiving Robyn! We agree about this community— the most interesting conversations and thoughts begin here. Love your prediction and I agree she will milk this. To be Continued …

Kelsey McMillan

You are most certainly allowed to do whatever you want - this is your content. :) Ofc you can laugh at Julie! I didn't mean for my comment to come off as combative. It was just an interesting paradox that struck me as I was listening to this. I actually think that Lauren being LDS is a positive in the coverage of this crime bc of all the background knowledge/cultural awareness she has about the LDS community. I find Lauren to be overall very fair and objective about the Mormon church. I did not mean to insult, just wanted to share an outside opinion from someone who is not religious. I love that you guys can laugh at things and appreciated your coverage of the love story between chad and lori for the humor you brought to it. It is especially refreshing to see an expert of John's caliber show his more human/humorous side in some of this coverage. I see your point about not all people who belong to one religious group believing the same things. You are right about that for sure. But when you are an active member of a church, I would assume you believe in the main origin story of the religion. My apologies if that assumption was incorrect. For the record I also think it's crazy that some Christians believe in Noah's arc being literal or that the world is only thousands of years old according to the bible. To me, that requires magical thinking and the suspension of critical thinking or disbelief in science. I would fall outside of that religious group so to me, it is unbelievable. That was my point there. I'm sorry if it came off as a direct insult to Lauren or her religion. I am for real a genuine fan of both Lauren and John despite any differences of belief.

Hidden True Crime

Hey Kelsey, thank you for both of your comments —truly. No apologies necessary. Thank you for recognizing my attempt to be objective when it comes to investigating this crime. I think that many people in various religions can see religious origin stories as literal or metaphorically, similarly to biblical stories like Noah’s Ark. We value that our Patreon platform is a great place to express thoughts and beliefs and experiences, and we appreciate those who feel it’s a safe place to share. If we dismiss or avoid anyone with differing viewpoints or experiences, we dismiss the ability to truly explore and have conversation.

TriciaTheTrucker
>>72389293

I know some of Julie's family. They've tried for years, but if someone doesn't want help... They start thinking everyone's plotting against them

CuriousinColorado

Is Julie Rowe Santa?! Zipping from portal to portal in 8 hrs? Maybe we’re missing the big picture here!! 😂😂.

Missy Bancroft

So now she's also into Numerology? She's just ripping everyone, every culture, every religion off! Plastic Surgery is elective....how can she plan her near death experiences now? Seriously don't Mormons that believe in NDE's that you literally almost died. Should be dead but we're somehow saved and sent back...not elective surgery!

Missy Bancroft

I think she just watched the Scarlett Johansen movie "Lucy"

Missy Bancroft

I've had tons of plastic/cosmetic surgery....everything even dental implants....I was in a terrible car accident, one might even call it a NDE....plastic surgery is usually done at a Surgical Center not a full blown hospital...you recover and they help you to your car so you can go home....you must have a ride.

Missy Bancroft

Say she's getting her breasts lifted, her nose fixed, lypo suction....any number of procedures where she could just go home.

Denise Blodgett

I only have a degree in early childhood education and development but now I'm going to get a degree in psychology because I want to be like Dr John!

Denise Blodgett

You guys really! You are both awesome and entertaining!

Rwdsklr

I'm surprised that Julie Rowe is traveling this week --portal or not -- doesn't she know this is the busiest travel week of the year!

Char
>>72458854

That's too cute, Denise! You made me lol!! Lol I'm a huge fan of Dr. John and wish I knew just a tiny bit of what he knows! It's fascinating when he analyzes a victim or a perpetrator. Knowing what makes one "tick" is so complex. He's a master and is always spot on! I'll come to your graduation party when you get your psychology degree. I hope it's going to be held close to Phoenix, where I live! See ya there!

Char
>>72462961

Of course she does. It's all about exposure and making the bucks. She'll literally bump into more people and may have a chance to do some of her "energy work"! Plastic surgery ain't cheap! However, with her moving through portals, she saves on air fare! Probably flies first class wherever she goes, too! Lol! I only hope she takes Banks' advice and wears a helmet. It'll be really crowded and flying around on the astral plane is not to be taken lightly. Just sayin'. 😉

Sylvia See
>>72404383

I love the comparison. Julie Rowe and Elizabeth Holmes. Both fraudsters. Holmes raised a hell of a lot of money. By the way, George Shultz was a US Secretary of State under Reagan, he wasn’t a general. And he was in his 90s when he fell under Holmes spell. Cognitively probably impaired,

Sheri Hendricks

In the "Anna" interview, Anna mentioned that Julie had said that she & Chad had both seen each other translated. A translated being can't taste of death, how can she then have a near death experience???

Fun2 Cruz

Doesn’t everyone who’s under Anesthesia feel like your on a trip? Goodness. Listening to Lauren laugh at the times I was as well made me laugh more. Sad for those who follow this. It’s very scary.

Joanna Mulvaney

Lauren’s translation sounded spot on to me.

ShaRee

I am grateful for anything you both do on Julie Rowe. I’ve been scratching my head over Her for far too many years. I wish I had Lauren and Dr. John back in 2015 when I watched my friend go into a fearful frenzy after following Julie. I’m sorry about your friend Lauren. It’s worrisome. Thanks for shining the light on what’s going on and I am secretly grateful my thoughts that I’ve had about Julie for years have some validity after hearing your perceptions. When so many others were embracing her, I couldn’t get past her grandiosity. On the lighter side… Julie needs new book material so these NDE’s are very important for her business. 😉 And Shes acting like she is about to die or something. 😆😉 The solemnity, no kidding! P.S. I wouldn’t perform any surgery on her if I knew she was saying these things. I also wondered if it was cosmetic because maybe she didn’t like people’s comments about her face melting on the Datelines episode. 😬 For the record, Julie Rowe’s fan club numbers in a Facebook group continue to climb. Whether they are supporters or not, it still baffles me. Thanks for letting me laugh with you but also remember to be compassionate too.

Nora Ann

I was just told that FaceBook has a portal!! I wonder if she is there now

Tamara Wakeman Sukohl

Julie needs to tattoo those coordinates on her body so she doesn’t get lost in the portal system. In all seriousness, Dr John does an amazing job making sense out of Julie R and her belief system. I don’t know how he can see through the smoke and mirrors, but he does, and he is kind about it. He ‘kind of’ makes me want to check myself. Bravo! Another great episode.

Erica A. Zwick

Who can takeJulie Rowe and her beliefs seriously? Let's see. Who can take THIS seriously? According to Joseph Smith, he was seventeen years of age when an angel of God named Moroni appeared to him and said that a collection of ancient writings was buried in a nearby hill in present-day Wayne County, New York, engraved on golden plates by ancient prophets. The writings were said to describe a people whom God had led from Jerusalem to the Western hemisphere 600 years before Jesus' birth. According to the narrative, Moroni was the last prophet among these people and had buried the record, which God had promised to bring forth in the latter days. Smith stated that this vision occurred on the evening of September 21, 1823, and that on the following day, via divine guidance, he located the burial location of the plates on this hill and was instructed by Moroni to meet him at the same hill on September 22 of the following year to receive further instructions, which repeated annually for the next three years. Smith's description of these events recounts that he was allowed to take the plates on September 22, 1827, four years after his initial visit to the hill, and was directed to translate them into English. For the majority of the process, accounts describe Smith dictating the text by reading it as it appeared either on seer stones he already possessed or on a set of spectacles that accompanied the plates, prepared by the Lord for the purpose of translating. Accounts of Smith's dictation process, describe him placing the interpreters or stones in a top hat and, "Dark[ening] his eyes then he would take a sentence and it would appear in bright Roman letters. Smith called the engraved writing on the plates "reformed Egyptian," a language which never existed. "Anthropologists and archaeologists, including some Mormons and former Mormons, have discovered little to support the existence of [Book of Mormon] civilizations. Over a period of 150 years, as scholars have seriously studied Native American cultures and prehistory, evidence of a Christian civilization in the Americas has eluded the specialists... These [Mesoamerican] cultures lack any trace of Hebrew or Egyptian writing, metallurgy, or the Old World domesticated animals and plants described in the Book of Mormon."

TJ

Wait she doesn’t do surgery on herself? Also, how does the co-pay work via Portals

Quinn Loy

Your laughs are everything 🤣🤣 she’s so freakin looney!

Deborah Cassidy
>>72436211

Kelsey I'm athiest. I think all religions are insane.. Really to me personally it's a form of a mental illness. When I see grown adults adhere to this magical thinking. This need for a belief in a higher power, it just fascinates me what they need from it.. Community is all good and fine. But there's community without the religion aspect. We live on a rock hurling around the Sun. In a universe that is so fascinating and magical if you like.. That's more of a story than any religious book. I totally get what your saying.. I am the athiest outcast lol. I believe in evolution and science and have no need to subscribe to a holy book. People think I'm the illogical one.

Peg Peterson

I joined Patreon today. I appreciate the unexpected laugh Thank you for all you do.

Becca Moorhead

I heard," I'm going to dream land while tripped out on prescription drugs." 🤣

Kelly the Sequel

Mental illness is a tragedy. People following a person experiencing delusions as if they are a guru may be even more tragic.