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Matthew Coleman podcast - FULL Video version for Patreon (Patreon)

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2022-07-22 17:03:06
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It’s finally uploaded and processed — for those that like video —here is the private YouTube version of the podcast we posted last night. As always, it's ad-free.

We also show you a bit of the behind-the-scenes at our dinner table, although Dr. John wasn't in the mood to be filmed, you'll get the idea. :)

We will be playing a shortened version of this episode tonight publicly, in lieu of TGIF. I'll share the link here as soon as I have it, so we can chat during the premiere. But Patreon is the only place you get Dr. John's full analysis. 

Our family is celebrating our son's 5th birthday this weekend, but we will resume with a live TGIF next week! :)

Also, a few more patreon episodes are complete, so get ready to enjoy a fun couple of weeks of new patreon episodes coming your way. 

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Matthew Coleman, dad who killed his own children, writes about delusional beliefs from prison

ad-free and full video podcast with Dr. John's analysis for Patreon supporters

Comments

Hidden True Crime
>>88186825

Beth, without your name or any identifying information being stated, we’d like to share this tonight on our Hidden Hour. 💕

Beth Weber
>>88186825

I give you permission to use my name if you so wish. I leave it up to you. ❤️

TriciaTheTrucker

I'm so glad you're covering this case! It blows my mind how many parallels to the Daybell case it has. 🤯 And you can hardly find any info on it...???? 🤷🏻‍♀️ One thing I realized that was very different between these cases. Matthew told the police of his delusions right away. Lori and Chad hid them. Which leads me to believe Matthew's might have been true delusions while Lori and Chad, and honestly everyone in that group including Julie Rowe, weren't delusional..... Although they truly believed it. I haven't wrapped my head around how that could be.....

Julie Holden

It was fascinating listening to this after having just watched the Jan 6th hearings yesterday evening. Q Anon & conspiracy theorists are more dangerous than I'd like to think. Eesh! I'm curious as to what Abby Coleman now believes. Does she still follow Q Anon theories about Santa Barbara, etc? Loved listening to y'all's analysis of this complicated, tragic story!

Chelsea Jackman

Hoping Banks has a wonderful birthday and that you all enjoy a weekend off! This case is very disturbing as so many subscribe to Q-anon and Illuminati belief sets. This includes including my youngest’s father, albeit to a lesser degree - but Trump really won, he’s on 8Chan or whatever it’s called, and once represented he personally knows “Q”. One thing that I’m beginning to think is that often (not always) it’s not the belief set/religion/organization that is a cult but the people who within the system. I’ve noticed this a lot, but admittedly have been watching and reading a lot of cult-related content. It has really made me more content with not subscribing to any specific religious organization. What I can’t comprehend is that the wife KNEW her husband had extreme beliefs (and seemingly had some of her own). I don’t understand why she didn’t think to use Find My sooner and why alarm bells didn’t go off when she realized her children were not even in the country. I’d have left that second. I can only pray those little ones are resting in peace and that the mother doesn’t engulf herself in guilt. I’m with Julie Holden in wondering where Abby’s beliefs are now.

Joan Pheney Engstrom

Great thoughts Chelsea and I agree with you. I'm older (74) and I wouldn't have thought too use Find My but that generation would 💚

Bjorn

David Icke is a real piece of work...

Beth Weber

This reminds me of Andrea Yates and sadly of myself. You ask why does this keep happening. I can only share my own experience, but maybe this will shine a little light. I was a Pastor's wife in a very high demand fundamental version of Christianity. In these circles, there's a lot of pulpit time given to teaching how Christian mothers should raise Godly children. I took notes, read books, listened to Christian teachers, but I failed. My children in no way resembled the image I was given of a godly child. I know now that I was not a failure and there was nothing wrong with my children. But I was overwhelmed. I needed support. The only place I knew to turn for that support was my high demand religion. What I received was instruction and more instruction and I never found the peace and joy what was promised to me as a Christian mother. And then horrifying thoughts started. Maybe it would be better to send my children to heaven while they still were innocent. If I continued to fail them in such a huge way, I would be dooming them to hell. I loved them too much to ever let my children be tormented for eternity in hell.

Beth Weber

Thankfully, I was horrified at my thoughts. I never harmed my children or myself. But I did live with a deep seated belief of failure for a long long time. I received treatment for anxiety and depression. And I slowly moved out from under the high demands of my religion. I know my account is similar to Andrea Yates. When I hear of parents killing their young children, I wonder how many are suffering from unrealistic expectations of themselves and their children. I wonder, in searching for how to deal with the overwhelm that sometimes is parenting, they turn to sources that only feed their anxieties. Pair fringe teaching (and even not so fringe) with a deeply troubled parent . . . I believe that's a dangerous recipe. I felt just the wispy fingertips of this darkness and it greatly, greatly scared me.

Amy N.

Beth, thank you for sharing your story. High control groups & relationships can do a number on reality. It can be hard to understand from the outside, but when you have lived through it, in any form, you see how dangerous jumps can be made and reinforced by group thinking. I hope you keep sharing your story. The more people understand the warning signs, the more they can be aware and help others losing a grip and their self-determination. Some people are monsters who do terrible, horrific things, and others become lost to monstrous idealities in a misguided quest to be pure, holy, safe, and lovable. Under the perfect storm of pain, loss, and insecurity, all humans are vulnerable. In my opinion, excepting and recognizing this in ourselves gives actual safety and awareness.

Nancy G

Best moment? The gates are in Pocatello 😂😆

Beth Weber
>>88234509

...others become lost to monstrous idealities in a misguided quest to be pure, holy, safe, and loveable.... You said this so perfectly. Outside of the group, it makes no sense at all, little to no logic can be applied. But when immersed in teachings that our own thought processes can't be trusted...that god's ways are higher than man's...terrible chasms can open up in pursuit of pleasing god (or whom/whatever).

Erica Plumhoff

I could listen to Lauren and Dr John speak on cases all day. Phenomenal conversation.

Kathleen Suter

I have 1 question of this Mathew Colemans sudden realization he was delusional once in jail with nothing....

Kathleen Suter

In particular he never ONCE showed grief, remorse, self loathing for the horrendous, callous Murders if his sons in that letter he wrote to friend?????

Kathleen Suter

That says a lot on just how Selfish, Narscisistic, Psychopathic he REALLY is,, no?!