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Morning tea with John and Lauren [unedited] (Patreon)

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We hit record not knowing where our convo would take us. We share some crimecon tea, rehash some months-old drama showing it's still fresh for us, and share about some projects we have in the works.  A backstage look into a bit of our personal life.

Comments

Mary

Love you guys so much. ❤️

Laura Biddle

Wouldn’t go to her grave? My Lord. She has too much time on her hands.

Laura Biddle

I’m so sorry that crap happened to you 😡

Laura Biddle

Those had to be trolls acting that way

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

Just jumped on! I am happy to join both of you! I hope to meet you in person sometime. I would love the opportunity to unpack some current important cout cases "Take Care of Maya"

Emily Lou

That call thing was so silly. People love to get on their soap box on stuff and beat up people on the internet.

Marcella Able

First let me say, I loved seeing you Lauren at CrimeCon. Second, you crack me up & I love you!(Big Fan Girl lol). Lastly, the Griffin & Poot story reminds me of Paul Harvey’s famous saying “Now for the rest of the story”. Love that you guys are getting these opportunities to promote yourselves. I have learned so much from listening to Dr John & always feel like I am sitting in on a master class. Keep it up!

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

I am very deserning about what I listen to for information. There is so much misinformation that can influence people's beliefs and opinions. Both of you work very hard to present truth and balance on what you present. You raise awareness and invite your listeners to be curious without judgment. I appreciate what you both bring to "Hidden True Crime" from your respective professions. Keep doing the great work and ignore some of the ridiculous uninformed haters that have misplaced anger to the messenger. "Hidden True Crime" is one of the few channels that I recommend to people.

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

So sorry for the attacks you experienced. This unfortunately happens when you become noticed.

Debi Biggs

Please share the phone call.

Carla Perkins

Co-chairs of the managing board😆

Carla Perkins

I would be interested in a comment about Roman in the Timothy Ferriter trial... we know things went wrong, but how would Dr. Babe handle this kid?

Chena M

I loved listening to this episode. It gave me insight into your behind the scenes work to bring your work to all of us!!

Carla Perkins

OMG! Having done public information work in corrections, I can't believe this story!!! Of course it was vetted! If not, everyone gets sued!

Kay Louise

I am glad that the truth came out about the phone call. It shows that things go on that shouldn’t. These things should come out. I agree with Lauren’s Dad! Good job, good reporting and as for the threats and people saying you did something wrong, don’t ever let people get to you! These trolls are afraid of the truth!

Kay Louise

Part of the problem with news on the tv and why people are turning to podcasts is what exactly goes on, fake news! Real news is the truth. Always do what is right and you will be fine.

Kay Louise

Information came out today that the other kids were with another connections employee. Officials were going to put them into foster care or with the oldest sister. I did see a video of Ruby’s Mother babysitting while Kevin and Ruby were on vacation. She went on and on about how she had to because Ruby helped her when she was a child with her siblings. Wow! These Families with so many kids that are so dysfunctional.

Moon Child

Wow! I’m sorry that happened to you guys. Ridiculous people reacted that way. You pointed out a real issue in taping attorney /client phone calls. The public should be outraged at the recording; not the whistleblower. I love this podcast. 😊❤️

Lolo McGee

To compare Lauren with a psychic is insane... Not even on the same continent!!! I am happy to see you all grow and gain opportunities for exposure.

Emma Cook

Loved this spontaneous morning tea!

Angie

The morning tea was a wonderful added bonus!

GoodGodMan

I’m glad to say that I knew none of this (calls) and I’m saddened that it caused you guys all that drama, hurt and discomfort. I’m only on this site for two reasons HTC and the Bookclub. I barely participate on FB and Im not on all the other popular sites but I’m a huge YouTube fan. I personally think y’all are awesome, genuine and kind. I hope y’all have a great rest of the week with lots of love, fun and discovery on content y’all are working on. 🙏🏼🫶🏻 ✌🏼

Cathy Rodolosi

You did what was right!!! Sometimes doing the right thing hurts. I am so happy it’s behind you.

Lizzy

Ditto to all of the above!! ❤️ I love both of you. This impromptu sharing made my day!! Please do it anytime, it was SO nice to sit around the table with you!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Lizzy

Lizzy

Ditto to all the below... ÷)

Moo2

Wow! Wow wow wow... Lauren, I KNOW you don't need my validation but good for you! I worked in a law office a while back, and a defense attorney worked in the same office, I didn't like his clients, but he sure helped me when I needed him, AND might I add, he did it for free. Our system is built to protect our rights, get us the best deals, and try to make the parties whole. It seems to me everyone did their job correctly.

Bernadette Lutz

If Jim Griffin has a problem with other people behaving in an unethical manner, perhaps he should give being ethical a shot. The things that he and Dick Harpootlian have done before, during and after the trial are disgusting. To have a back channel to these people, honestly, you should both too ashamed to admit it. Neither one of them would know the truth if it bit them on their lying asses. Jim and Dick failed to have their phone calls excluded. All they had to do was file a damn form and they couldn't even do that for Alex. Do you have any idea how ridiculous it is that Jim is fussing about corruption based on the shitbag he is defending? They are both morons and failed to do the most basic things for their murderous client. I have been a supporter, but honestly, if you have either one of these dirtbags on your podcast, I am done. Giving him and his lies oxygen makes him seem legitimate and you should be above that garbage. You are not unethical for releasing his stupid phone call, but you will be unethical having him on your podcast. Do better, please.

Imia

As a former journalist I 100% stand with you in this. What you did was journalism at it’s finest. I don’t think people realise what they’re doing when they’re hating on this. We as a society need journalists who are not afraid to publish pieces/material that show faults in the system. That is the basis of all journalism. I don’t get why people don’t understand that. Way to go, Lauren and John! You did well!

Edie Miller

I remember this one chick on Twitter who made the most noise about the phone call. Complete psycho interjecting her manufactured outrage as if it were fact. Seemed she would latch onto things and will not let go. Pretty stalker-ish. You did not deserve any of that 🥺

Miss Honeychurch

Much love and appreciation to Hidden True Crime. One thing I know to be true is there is no short supply of stupidity in the world. Sorry you guys had to deal with that absolute idiocy.

Katie Alosi

I am so sorry all this happened to you. I am extra glad it's going to be explained publicly!!

Isabel Hendrix
>>119298785

You probably already have them as a resource but wanted to give a name of a reliable source in case you didn’t know of them yet. They were also on an episode recently with Mormon Stories about this case, they also have their own Mormon stories episodes about their journeys.

Isabel Hendrix

Oh and thank you so much for doing your Tim Ballard episode. It was so helpful and honestly made me feel more hopeful about the situation. The journalists from VICE wanted resources for some background info on the type of people who follow OUR, and I think you two would probably have GREAT info for them, I emailed them your website, and told them you covered the Vallow/Daybell case thoroughly so you have great info, etc. Anyway, sorry for the novel, a few other podcasts doing good coverage on this episode are QAA (q anon anonymous- they cover the story from a conspiracy theory research angle, which is slightly different than the religious perspective from most others who have covered this story in depth), Nuance Hoe, of course Mormon Stories, and Lynn Kenneth Packer also are doing great coverage.

Beth VanMatre

I'm so sorry you went through this, sometimes people have no common sense.

Mrs. G

Please have Sara and Jim on your podcast. I think Murdaugh is guilty as hell, but I love to listen to their podcast. #bigfan They are both very versed in the law and incredibly knowledgeable regarding the law. We don’t always have to agree to admire brilliant minds.

BlondeGranny

It irks me that you guys were treated in this fashion. As far as I’m concerned you all keep your work professional and classy. Shame on them ! As a subscriber and supporter, I will never leave you all because you only tell the truth !

CBell

I desperately want to hear that un-posted episode. Hidden’s podcast episodes on Alex were so, so helpful to me.