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Lauren was in town in Southern Utah when Ruby and Jodi were sentenced, and John will now give his thoughts. Come join us in the live chat tonight! 

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RUBY FRANKE & JODI HILDEBRANDT SPEAK, DR JOHN REACTS #forensicpsychologist

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AdoptALLtheKitties

Can’t wait to hear his thoughts! Thank you listing the various times.

Debe Hale

Hi! 💁🏼‍♀️I’m dressed for the occasion—have my fabulous HTC t-shirt on with my sushi print sweatpants!

Emm Vee

I know Jodi Hildebrandt abused the authority of her position, but I hope Ruby and Kevin's abuse of the children prior to falling under her influence is not forgotten. You can watch this woman smile and wrinkle her nose, convinced she is adorable while her children talk about having no friends. She takes glee in starving them and making them cry on camera. She recorded the girls shaving for the first time for every predator on the Internet to watch and then loses her mind claiming Low by Flo Rida is taking their innocence. I know showing remorse is generally commendable, but I just don't believe her. Where was this remorse when her children were cut to the bone and left exposed in the desert heat? She's just much more manipulative and savvy than Jodi at playing the system.

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

Hopped on late. Great presentation tonight! I agree with Dr. John and the insightful 💎 that commented about Ruby. It is scary that she manipulated and continues to do so with her speech

Colleen Canning

I could not agree more. We can see right through her blubbering act. She showed the country the origins of her violence by shoving a camera in her face while she BRUTALIZED her six little ducks. Her fake tears didn't fool ANYONE! And, if they did? I would kindly remind you to step into the role of RF and EF FIRMLY. AND fucking stay THERE!!!

Jeanine Harrop Hansen

We're in Island Park with Park with the family and I just barely had a minute to listen to John's analgy of Ruby and Jodi. Jodi spot on! 👏🏻👏🏻 She is pathetic. Ruby? Wow! Thank you John for reeling me back from her "distortion"!!! I was so caught up in wanting to believe she took full accountability and that she was sincerely remorseful. That yes, she was in fact brainwashed! I failed to remember that she was a failure as mother before she met Hilderbrant. Jodi was merely the catalyst into something so much sinister and deadly. Bravo Lauren & John!!!! Thank you for another great show!

BECKY O

Lauren and John - have you watched “The Program” documentary? It has connections to Jodi the troubled teen wilderness programs and World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools, or WWASPS, which was founded by Robert Lichfield, a Mormon.

Jessica

So glad I joined!! Now I'll be binge watching for a while. Love you guys Sending ❤️ and 🙏 from New Hampshire