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Hi everyone, Rich here. 

We've had some feedback suggesting that as we can capture at 120 frames per second, we might like to share some 120fps video downloads with Patreon supporters. It's worth stressing that YouTube doesn't support this, so any endevours we undertake will be limited in nature and for supporters only, but before we plough on into this, the question is: can you display handle it?

First of all, if you have a PC attached to a high frequency display and you run your desktop at 120Hz, you can download the video and take a look, but I don't expect you to encounter any problems - just ensure you have a video player with hardware acceleration and I think you should be fine. No problems here with my LG CX running at 2160p120 connected to my PC.

I'm more interested in what happens when you take the download, stick it on a USB drive, plug it into your TV and run it. First of all, does it work? Secondly, are you actually getting 120fps playback? On the second point, I've made things easier by including a frame counter in the bottom left. 

If you have a 'slow motion' video option on your smartphone, record the video playing and take a look at some stills from that video. If you see odd and even frames blend together you should be good to go. Here's what that looked like for me using the LG CX's media player: with consecutive frames present, I know I'm playing back at 120fps: https://cdn.gamer-network.net/2021/screenshots/VID_20210516_195530.mp4_snapshot_00.01_[2021.05.16_20.00.26].jpg

If you don't have such a mode on your phone, just continually pause and unpause the video as you play it. If you always get odd or always get even frames, the player is likely skipping frames and running the video at 60, not 120. The only caveat to this is that console 120fps is actually 119.88fps so it may swap between odd and even every 1000 frames or so. The YouTube on the download page has YT disregard every other frame, so it's basically running at 60. With the pause/unpause technique, you can see how a decimated video output looks.

OK, so how can you help in the testing? Simply report in the comments beneath what screen you have, whether the files play (I've included 1080p, 1440p and 2160p) and whether you're getting 'true' 120fps playback. I guess if you're streaming over network, that's another viable test option but if you're doing that, please let me know. As mentioned, the 2160p120 video is confirmed as working on an LG CX.

Here are the files: https://www.digitalfoundry.net/2021-05-17-mad-max-120fps-test-video

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Magnus Berg

Oh my... it's glorious :o

Yiu-Fai Wong

No problems here with my 2021 LG C1 running at 2160p120 connected to my PC.

Jesus

Works perfectly and it's amazing on an Ozone DSP25 PRO monitor (2160p120, but the monitor is 1080p, so it was scaled down). I used VLC, I heard there are better players for frame time consistency, but for my eyes, this looks as smooth as CSGO running at high frame rates.

Shimakaze

I have a LG CX so not very useful, but tested both there and on PC monitor, and both looked perfect. I very much support this development

xwurm

it works on the GX :-)

Jaymie Parker

LG C9, tested over network through Plex - showed 120fps on file information and when viewing slow mo playback.

Mr Fujisawa

Tested on Dell Alienware AW2721D monitor running at 240hz. works great

xwurm

I should add that i did it via USB and checked it with a slo mo on my phone and with randomly stopping and seeing even and uneven numbers.

Stefan von der Krone

Tested on a LG B7 via USB, only 1080p works. The other formats couldn't be recognized

Martin Banak

It seems to be working on my LG Nano90 2020, but only the 1080p version can be played from USB.

digitalfoundry

Alex Battaglia has just confirmed that 2160p120 doesn't work on his 55-inch Samsung NU8000, but 1440p120 does.

Ronny Pedersen

LG C9 here. Played the files via USB-stick, recorded the screen with Huawei P30 Pro (set to 60fps). When playing back the video and pausing I get odd, even and blended numbers (but mostly blended) :P

Liam Smith

They all work at 120fps on my Dell S2719DGF 144Hz monitors.

Dissecta

Appears to run correctly on 2020 iPad Pro. I test the 1080p file.

Mat Azel

all 3 work (@120) on the internal player on my LG C9. (usb, checked with slowmo on my pocophone f1) the 4K version can't be read by my Oppo UDP-203, which doesn't seem to be able to go above 60fps anyways (any resolution), the other 2 resolution play at 60. (did also test on my Sony UBP-700, exact same results) I don't own a gpu capable of 120 over hdmi yet so, sadly can't test that, and as John said, video playback is finicky as f on pc, hence why I moved away from playing those on pc in the past year of so (spotty hdr, no dv etc, no simple 4K uhd playback) Over the years, I did tend to disregard internal players or apps, but I gotta admit, on the c9, those are the only way I can get 120, or dolby vision (tv led) AND dolby atmos at the same time on streaming platforms, so kind of lifesavers really. ^^

Daniel N.

LG E9 internal player - works great Xbox Series X - skipping frames and some artifacting too Have you thought about trying to embed these files on the DF.net page directly? This way they could be played with the TVs internal web browser. Could be an idea to skip the whole "transfer to USB" thing.

twoheadedenby

Hi ! Tried the 4K file here on an LG CX by plugging a USB into both the TV itself and my PS5. Pausing and unpausing confirmed both odd and even numbers present. Additionally, I turned on and off OLED black frame insertion to verify that there was none of the loss of brightness associated with 60hz playback :)

e234d7b6

Works great on LG CX Plex app as well. Less so on Shield TV.

Saltank

LG B7. Plex app plays back the 1080p and 1440p but not 2160p. Apple TV 4K to LGB7 using Infuse: plays back (Direct Play) but probably only 60fps. Plex on TV OS = stuttering.

Ben McSkelly

runs fine on windows 10 with Gigabyte G34WQC

TransTechGirl

LG BX can only play the 1080p file from USB, but pausing and unpausing repeatedly does show both odd and even numbered frames.

Rukazi Sintakumo

The 2160p120 file did skip a few frames on my iPad Pro 2018. (I‘d say runs at full speed roughly 50-60% of the time) I‘ll need to test the 1080p and 1440p versions in a bit…

Ammar Zahid

LG C8. Downloaded the 1080p file and put it on a USB drive. Getting mixed frame rate numbers on slow mo video, but not while pausing and unpausing. So I’m not sure where that leaves me.

TransTechGirl

Series X on an LG BX all the files play perfectly at 120fps.

Ammar Zahid

Oh yes just read the other comments. This means I’m good! With 1080p120 at least!

Tom van As

Samsung Tab S7+ Gives good 2160p/120fps playback, odd and even frame smoothed over in one frame, using VLC. Looks really impressive! The built in player only shows 60fps, and Google Photo’s does show 120 fps. So for Android, depends on the app!

Marc

Sony xf9005, 120Hz isn't officially supported, 1080p120 from PC works fine though. With a USB Stick I can play the 1080 video at half speed so it runs at 60Hz with the audio desynced at normal speed.

Fabio R

I have a LG C8 (55in), latest firmware. All 3 files open from an USB stick, they seem to play all at 120fps - I counted to 10 from the start of the video and it showed 1200ish frames - unless I'm very stupid that indicates it's working?

Sh4dow592

4k 120 wirelessly on my C9 is working a treat, no problems.

Benjamin Mahoney

Tried the 1440p 120fps file on my Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra which has a 1440p 120hz screen. Played back via VLC app without making any changes and can confirm runs at the full 120fps using the pausing method as it shows odd and even frames. I then chromecast it via VLC app to my Sony X9000H and confirmed again is running at 120fps but can stutter due to WiFi streaming I guess. 1080p file has alot less stuttering but still there when chromecasting. 2160p file does not work very well it has this weird tear down the middle and like a paused VCR flickering at all times. Il give the 2160p 120fps file a try via USB on my Sony X9000H when I get a chance too.

Haris Redzepagic (JiSiN)

LG OLED77CX6LA FW: 03.21.18 Via USB and LAN (NAS --stream--> TV) 👌 All 3 Test-Files look good via USB or LAN. *Used my phone and recorded my TV screen with 240fps and yes I see a lot of frame-blending 👍

digitalfoundry

Yes, a Sony display test would be great! And I hadn't thought of phones playing back these files! Haha!

Daniel N.

Just tested this serving the video through a simple HTML5 embed on a page hosted on my laptop. It seems like it does indeed do 120hz playback through the LGs internal web browser. Did a slow-mo test and all the frames were present and accounted for. Of course this is through local network, so going over the internet may cause bandwidth issues, but it works in theory.

MGsubbie

(I'm the one who contacted you in Discord about the LG C9.) I have the LG C9, I tried both the USB playback and VLC playback (through a 3080 with HDMI) 2.1, both are delivering 4k 120fps.

digitalfoundry

Yeah, that's not going to work. You need to pause/unpause the video to check that you're getting both odd and even frames. Just odd or just even means it's skipping every other frame.

Dr. Ogo and Quin

Another satisfied LG C9 owner here; works perfectly at full 4k via usb

Dr. Ogo and Quin

Recorded via phone in slow motion at 1/8th speed to confirm all unique frames are present via the counter

Ortwin98

I have stored all videos on my NAS and tried playback on different devices: -On LG C8: 4k 120fps works fine -On Chromecast Google TV via Kodi: only 60fps at all resolutions -On Philips PUS8505: Only Support 1080p and only 60fps -On Note 20 Ultra with Samsung Media Player: 4k 120fps works fine

digitalfoundry

Comprehensive, I like it :D Interesting that the C8 seems to allow 4K120 but the B8 seems to be 1080p120, presumably owing to the differing chipsets.

Ray

I played the 4k 120fps file on my LG CX over USB. No problems, looks great and is running at a true 120fps. I also played the file on my PC through VLC and had no issues. I have an Asus PG278Q Swift display.

Kinoli

The first TV I tried is the Samsung UE55NU8005 and it cannot play any format. 1080p has green artifacts and wrong aspect ratio, 1440p only plays it at 60fps and 4k renders 1 frame each 2-3 seconds. The other I tried was the Samsung UE40MU6105KXXC and has more or less the same performance. I tried for fun in my OnePlus 8T with VLC and each of them plays without problem (pausing the video I see both odd and even frames).

Roxanne

Right, so I've downloaded the video and Windows reported I need to download a new codec that costs 99cents when playing back in the default media player. On my TV (cheap Roku TCL tv, 40S305) it seems to not be blurring the frames together and instead is just displaying them sometimes odd sometimes even, but it's not something that I can see in motion. I got similar results on my Samsung S27C230 desktop monitor. Both displays are 60fps, so I can confirm that they're visible at least but yea, no odd and even frame blending here edit: I forgot to specify that I ended up playing back the video in VLC because I'm not giving microsoft a dollar to play video

Roxanne

Out of curiosity I transferred the video to my laptop to see how it fared there (Intel i3 5005U.) As expected, the video had great difficulty even playing back and all the colors were wrong. It's just a bit too much for that device. I was trying out the 1080p version of the video. But yea, I was using the slow motion recording on my phone to see these results. If I simply pause the video, sometimes its odd frames and sometimes it's even frames. It feels to me as if VLC is skipping frames unevenly to get the picture out

Adrián Toscano

I just tested the 1080P video on a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2 which has a 120hz display, and played the video using VLC for Android. I recorded the video playing on the Samsung with an iPad using the "slow motion" setting and can confirm I saw several odd and even numbers blending together (ones and twos, twos and threes, etc). Just to be certain, I disabled the 120hz refresh rate on the Samsung (it ran at 60hz) and did the same slow motion recording with the iPad. There, the frames that blended together were always even (fours and sixes, twos and fours). I guess that confirms I was getting "real" 120hz playback on my Samsung phone. It's the only 120hz display I have, and honestly it looked really good.

DeZoom

Just tested it out on a Sony XE9005, the tv that introduced DF to me all those years ago! It does let me play the 1080p file but it will skip frames (1440p/2160p just won't run). Not really surprising as it should not officially support 120hz playback anyway. Still interesting to test though!

André Scheffler

On an LG 65" UJ6309 from 2017 running webOS 3.5, the 1080p120 version plays without any issues, the others don't play at all - TV says it's not recognizing the format. Which makes sense, as the TV only accepts 120Hz at 1080p on the HDMI inputs and only 60Hz at 1440p/2160p. I used the "pause technique" and got even and odd numbers, so it seems the video is being displayed at 120 Hz (and it looks very fluid compared to the 60 Hz YouTube version), but when trying to capture it with my Samsung Note 10 in Slow-Motion I would only see even numbers being blended together - so a little unsure here. But I'll definitely download 1080p120 versions, if available, as it looks super-smooth to the eye.

The Wooniest Woona

Just tried them all on my Sony X900E. Playing directly off a USB drive didn't work too well. The 4K and 1440p files refused to play at all. The 1080p one played, but it was clearly not at 120fps, and it looked like it was being transcoded on the fly, because the video quality was noticeably worse than playing on my PC. I also tried playing through Plex on my Roku Ultra (2018 model I think), and the videos all played fine, but I'm pretty sure they were playing at 60fps. I don't have a high speed camera to verify that though.

The Wooniest Woona

Since we already know it works directly on the CX, I figured I'd try it some slightly different ways on mine. I was not able to get 120fp when playing through my nVidia Shield. Playback was smooth, but it was always a 60fps output. Using the Plex app on the CX I was able to get what I'm pretty sure was 120fps playback without issues. Which makes sense, it would be weird if it could play it over USB and not over the network.

JustOnaut

Hi Rich! Just gave this a go on my LG B9 trying out the 1080p, 1440p and 4K versions of the video and they all seem to work great when being run off a USB drive plugged straight into the set. None of the files refused to be played and the delivery of frames appeared to be spot on!

Valli

Works like a charm on my LG B9 and Acer Predator 165Hz 1440p monitor.

Art Vandelay

Here are the results for the Sony X900H when playing from a USB stick: 1080p works perfectly. Smooth as silk, could pause at odd and even frames. 1440p does not work. The TV opens the file, but the image is a mess. 2160p also works great, but… I can't really tell if it actually is full 4K. This TV has this infamous limitation where HDMI sources at 4K 120Hz suffer from a reduction in resolution. But I don't know if it also affects media played from a USB source. The only way to be sure would be to try a test pattern. At the end of the day though, the footage looks pretty good to my eye.

Frank Melendez

I own a LG B8. I downloaded all 3 files, 1080P-4K, and played them off of a SSD/USB3. I recorded slow motion video of all 3 files and then played them back frame by frame in DaVinci Resolve. I was able to see the frame blending in all 3 files. I felt like 1080P was the smoothest, however, this could be that by the time I got to the 4K file, my eyes were beginning to adjust.

Brian Rickard

I tested 1440p. I have a lg 27gl850 seems work fine running from my PC and running perfect in vlc. I put it on my plex server seems to be 60 FPS coming from plex to that same PC. I recorded it with 240fps slow motion on my iPhone. Streamed to my iPhone via plex and infuse. I have an 10Xs max. Works but the refresh rate on the device is 60 hrz.

Travis Stockton

PC playback works as expected using MPC-HC w/ madVR renderer. Didn't test the files below 2160p since the player scales the video to my monitor and TV resolutions. Full 120 Hz playback, can see it in the renderer's OSD and paused playback multiple times within a few seconds and saw even and odd frame counts. Playback directly on my LG C7 via USB was less successful, only the 1080p120 file was recognized by the internal media player, the other two said format wasn't recognized. TV seems to have properly switched to its 120 Hz mode as pausing the video rapidly also display even and odd frame counts.

Lionel Lemarie

As a datapoint I tried it on a MacBook Pro on the internal 60Hz panel. In both QuickTime Player and VLC, all videos play well at 60 FPS, but pausing and unpausing frequently show both even and odd frames. A slomo video shows that only odd (or only even) frames are actually displayed as expected. So I'm suspicious of the conclusions based on the pausing method.

Gordon McBain

If you had told 10 year-old me that one day I'd have consoles from Sony and Microsoft under my TV he would have laughed and called you a madman! Do you think who we have now are going to be the main console manufacturers going forward, or do you foresee any change in the future or at least think there is even any potential for change in the current world of console gaming?

Arvid Falk

I tried all 3 files through Plex on an Nvidia Shield Pro hooked up directly to an LG C9. 1080p and 1440p works great, but not 2160p. Going into playback info in Plex it says "the device does not support 4k@120hz playback".

tehUser

I only tested the 4K 120FPS file. LG CX with USB: Works, frame counter is smooth and can see even/odd frame numbers. LG CX with Plex: Same as above. Nvidia Shield Pro with Plex: Device cannot play 4K @119fps error. Crashes the Shield when it tries to convert the video to a playable format. I would expect similar behavior if the LG YouTube application supported 4K 120FPS.

Myles C. Maxfield

The videos work great on an iPad with ProMotion, in the Files app (which is the place where DF downloads end up on an iPad). I verified by recording the playback using the "slow motion" feature on my phone. I also verified that they work great in the "Movies & TV" app on a Windows machine with the screen refresh rate set to 120fps, using the same "slow motion" feature. (And, to make sure I was getting accurate results, I also tried using Quick Time Player on a 60fps Mac, and verified that only every other frame gets rendered there.)

F to the G

No Problems on my 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 with 120Hz and my Omen 27 1440p 144Hz Monitor. Both show the same amount of even and uneven Frames when paused.

André Scheffler

I saw the exact same behavior on an LG 65" UJ6309 which would play the 1080p120 file and give me even and odd frames on pause, but in slow motion only even frames where visible.

Kenneth Bergan

Watched it on my 11" 2018 iPad Pro, and it looked glorious

Peter Unger

I have the LG CX and would love more 120hz content but not sure how I would watch it on it.

Angel

Used a 2018 iPad Pro 12.9” 3rd Gen. Watched all three resolution formats 4K120, 1440pK120, 1080pK120. Recorded in 1080P 240fps on iPhone 12 Pro Max. Using your method Rich of taking a still of the slow motion video, I can see clear transitions of the frame counter even at the highest resolution. I could be wrong, but even on 4K120, I see the frame counter transition 477 to 478.