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Happy Friday everyone! The 77th episode! [Direct link here.]

So happy for Fitz in this episode! Looking forward to your comments. 😊

✦ KL

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Agents of SHIELD: Wake Up [4x11] Full-Length Watchalong Reaction

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Gary Marshall

Poor May, she is really having a bad day...again and again and again. Loved Aida saying 'Oh no, not again' at the start of each iteration. Not sure where I heard it but I love LMayD as a way of describing android May.

Sean Ellingham

Ah, this definitely reminds us AoS is a Mutant Enemy production - punch us in the gut with Mack's backstory, then five minutes later hit us with "Take her back to Bahrain..." OK, so we find out what Ghost Rider meant when he said "Mack has a lot of pain. He lost Hope" - he wasn't meaning the obvious loss of hope, but his baby daughter. There was a hint about this at the end of that episode, as when Mack is sitting by the gateway he's holding a picture which says Hope and a date (presumably her birthday) on it. This arc poses some proper philosophical questions - AIDA's question about whether it matters if the real May is dead or alive, whilst very cold (and somewhat concerning), does make logical sense. It's basically a variation of the Ship of Theseus, applied to people - if LMD May has all May's memories, then isn't she as much May as the real May? Speaking of LMD May, she now knows she's not real, but can't do anything about it. Radcliffe programming her so that she wouldn't *want* to tell anyone almost feels crueller than programming her so that she couldn't. She also inadvertently helps Radcliffe work out how to keep May sedated - "fix" the fight in Bahrain so that she does save the girl, thus giving her what she's always wanted. Seriously, who has it worse - May or LMD May? It's really hard to tell.

Christopher simeon

There is something so twisted in what Radcliffe is doing. Taking someone's wants and using it to accomplish your goals is such an invasive messed up way to justify what you are doing. Giving May what she desired the most is taking away a part of her that shaped her into who we know. He is destroying the reason she fights so hard. He is also doing it to LMD May by forcing her to go through her programming. The Darkhold corrupts and he truly thinks the end justifies the means.

Onno Smits

I agree that in its pure form, the Ship of Theseus applies and it is an interesting question. But the fact that Radcliffe messed with LMayD's mind by giving her this secret objective of finding the Darkhold, it is in fact _not_ a one-to-one copy of the real May, and thus not a pure Ship of Theseus analog.

Onno Smits

It's funny. The subtitles on Disney+ used to have every mention of Hope be capitalized, which spoiled the reveal of Hope being a person (Mack's daughter). I guess enough people complained that they fixed that eventually, because it was fixed when I watched the Ghost Rider episodes with you earlier last month. But now even after the reveal the mention of Hope in this episode was still "hope" instead of "Hope", so whomever made the fix clearly didn't understand the assignment! 😅

Steve Mercier

Loooooooove this season. I love how LMD May is seemingly more human than Radcliffe. Or, at least more humane. He's definitely being very 'human'. Also, 'Wake Up', the title of the episode where a Matrix-like environment is introduced, is also a song by Rage Against the Machine that plays over the closing credits of The Matrix. Not sure if this is a nod, or just cool coincidence, or maybe just a cool coincidental nod...? One of those.

Chris Elkins

Deep down Radcliffe is a typical good guy doing the bad things for the wrong reasons but they are good in his mind but he does have more bad than good or something like that. I love that AoS is diving deep into LMD's which is lightly mentioned in the MCU and adding the Framework program giving a whole new meaning to VR maninulation of realism. The complexity of the characters is insane now im loving it !

JM

This is one of those episodes where I specifically remember watching for the first time, especially the May parts. I also was fooled by the simulation for May I was really rooting for her lol. It's so cruel of Radcliffe to take her back to Bahrain even if he changed the outcome. I think I'll save my thoughts on the regrets and changing outcomes during one of the Framework episodes since that's a whole thing lol. But it's so interesting to think about and so well written. Also feel pretty bad for Maydroid which is also such a cool like meta storytelling tactic of kind of asking the audience if we should really feel bad for an android. A small scene I really enjoy every time that you pointed out in the reaction liking is between Daisy and Mace in the courtroom. Just a very nice scene between those two and I feel like they finally reach an understanding about each other. I always think it's nice Mace gives her reassurance in that scene too. Totally agree on the Mack and Elena scene; very well done. That scene never fails to make me emotional