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Congrats again to TemKhan for the win for July! This was their movie submission and this is definitely a new addition to my list of comfort films.

I really hope you enjoy the reaction! Thanks so much for watching. 🥰 [Direct link here.]

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A Knight's Tale (2001) ✦ Full-Length Watchalong Reaction

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TemKhan

Can't wait to watch this reaction when I'm off work! Hope you enjoyed!

Steve Mercier

Been waiting on this one...fucking cooooooool...

Steve Mercier

I'm with you on the romance here. Jocelyn makes Will fight to win her, but doesn't do anything to win Will. I actually thought Will and Kate would've made a better pairing here. Even so...still love this movie. Good shit.

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It feels like the typical "I'm a princess, I can do no wrong." type of thing, but you're right, what does SHE bring to the table here?😅 Kate was great.

Tyler Foster

A few things: A Knight's Tale was the sophomore directorial effort of screenwriter Brian Helgeland, who won an Academy Award for adapting James Ellroy's book L.A. Confidential for director Curtis Hanson. The year after he won the Oscar, he won a Golden Raspberry aka "Razzie," the famous "awards" for the worst movies of the year, and became the fourth person to accept the award in person. Apparently, he keeps the Oscar and Razzie next to each other, as a way of keeping himself grounded. Some of his other notable efforts include Payback (1999), his directorial debut; the screenplays for Mystic River (2003) and Man on Fire (2004), and writing/directing the Jackie Robinson biopic 42 (2013). Although she wasn't your favorite character, the actor playing Jocelyn, Shannyn Sossamon, also appeared in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang as a girl who wore a pink wig and is involved with a fake stakeout in the park designed to trap Val Kilmer's detective. As far as her character goes, while there is maybe a literal uselessness to losing, I personally think it's great as a lesson in being willing to compromise, even if it's extreme. Similar to William allowing Prince Edward to finish their first encounter without finishing him, I think William correctly understands the right scenarios in which to bend and which to stand his ground. (Also, while it maybe a "small" or "easy" gesture, she does contribute by bringing his father to see him win at the end.) If you do find yourself turning to this as a comfort movie, you may find this overkill for a movie that's already quite lengthy, but there are two cuts of this movie: the 132-minute theatrical cut and a 144-minute extended cut that adds a few bonus bits back into the film. (I don't remember the differences well enough to explain them, but I recall liking both versions.) In any case, I think both this and 10 Things are of a pair, these movies that could be pretty frivolous silly nothings but which I think actually bring some real emotion and sharp writing to the table, with this one also featuring some really cool visuals in the explosive jousting footage and a fun hook with the music. Last but not least: you missed a crude little post-credits tag on this one. Something else to look for on another viewing.

TemKhan

Great reaction, as always! So glad you enjoyed! One of my favorite movie anecdotes comes from this film. When the director was questioned over the choice of music, and whether something orchestral might have been more appropriate, he countered with the fact that the instruments in a modern orchestra wouldn't be invented for several hundred years after the movie takes place. He felt like the rock music would help modern audiences feel similarly to how medieval spectators might have felt watching a joust. Also - Paul Bettany's character, Geoffrey Chaucer, was a historical figure. He wrote one of the earliest English language books, The Canterbury Tales. When in the film he promises to "eviscerate in fiction" the Summoner and the Pardoner, the film is referencing the characters with the same names in that book - both of whom are quite despicable.

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Thanks for the info Tyler! Relationship compromises can be made in relationships without hindering and going directly against your most important individual goal in life. I'm at least relieved that she realized she was affecting that and told him to stop losing on her behalf. And yes, I appreciated she brought his dad along to the championships. I still feel the relationship had basically no substance to it, though. I did notice there were multiple versions of this! I'll catch the post-credits thing next time.

Tyler Foster

I mean, Adhemar isn't even competing in that tournament. Losing one championship won't get in the way of William's ultimate goals, which are defeating Adhemar, winning Jocelyn's love (in fact, losing furthers this goal because it's what she asked him to do), and changing his stars. And in the end, he wins that tournament, and makes her happy. A positive outcome all around. My main thing is that I can't help but think Adhemar would *never* humble himself intentionally in any way, and that is one of his major character flaws. William being willing to do it even though he doesn't like it is a form of humility, and an important one -- I think lacking it is exactly what results in an egomaniac like Adhemar.

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I understand your perspective and agree that humility is a good trait, though I will continue to disagree with you about this particular romance. It was weak for me.

Tyler Foster

Only want to add that this is not in defense of the romance in general, which I agree is undercooked, just that I think the request has some merit to it.

Sam

First off, that's Lydia! I would have never made that connection had you not said it. You were like, "I recognize that actor..." And I was like, "yeah, I do, too." And then you said, "I think she's from Breaking Bad, but I can't remember the character"... and then I thought and thought and thought... and yeah, it's Lydia. She's actually in the thumbnail under this textbox :) Secondly, I was thinking—when the "we will rock you" started—that if you're unfamiliar with the movie's deliberately anachronistic use of popular music, you might be expecting a Monty Python/Holy Grail situation—which you confirmed in your epilogue. And that had never even occurred to me before because the music was heavily publicized at the time it came out. Lastly, I've never particularly wanted to liked this picture. It looks like a cheap made-for-british-tv movie, to me. The lighting is flat and digitally graded to death, so the cinematography is bland and stagey. The sound is just as bad—aside from the needle drops. It basically looks like a live action tv version of Disney's Robin Hood. With as much depth. And yet, I like Disney's Robin Hood and this one's got its charm, too.

Sam

I entirely agree with Kaiielle. In fact, I would go so far as to say that I am almost certain that had he not "lost" the fight for her, she would have only respected him more, because the request was unreasonable.

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Yeah, the visuals of the movie aren't the *best* ever, but I actually kind of like that for what this movie is with its genre-combining. I feel like movies like this are more rare these days, so it gives me a feeling of nostalgia a little bit.

Tyler Foster

I mean...now we're talking about what the opposite of the movie actually shows you. She appreciates that he does it, even if she's sorry it has a physical impact on him.