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ALIEN³ (1992) Assembly Cut [Full Reaction] (Patreon)

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2026-02-04 19:00:09
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2026-04-25 17:55:59
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Thank you to Vincent Hollow for requesting this through Reactr! I remembered comments from back when I watched the first two movies, where it seemed that a lot of people are divided in opinions when it comes to this one. I can definitely see why many don't like this one, and I had my own gripes about it too, but there are things to enjoy too. Thanks so much for watching and I'm looking forward to reading your comments below!

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Alien3 (1992) | Full-Length Watchalong Reaction

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Nathan Jasper

I like the idea of the movie itself however the opening alienated me from actually being able to enjoy it.

Tyler Foster

As you know, I love Alien³. It takes quite a bit for me to feel like there are things that sequels should not do, and killing Hicks and Newt doesn't qualify in my book. By making this a series, Ripley and the Xenomorph are intertwined, and death follows the Xenomorph. For characters to die is inevitable, even characters we like. I don't think they are any more or less deserving to live than most of the crew of the Nostromo, or the space Marines, or even many of the prisoners (although of course there are some bad people spread throughout, especially in this one). Years ago I wrote for a site my friends had created called SharcTank, where I was free to write whatever I wanted. One of the things I wrote was this long defense of Alien³ and other sequels like it, which I moved to Letterboxd last year just to make sure it was preserved somewhere where it was easy to access, as the site has been dead for a long time. There is one paragraph you should skip as it describes the plot of Alien: Resurrection, but the rest of the article goes into both some of the behind-the-scenes stuff and other thoughts of mine on the movie. (The paragraph to skip is pretty obvious, as it opens with "The fourth film, Resurrection...") https://letterboxd.com/tylergfoster/film/alien-3/4/ Some stuff I don't cover in the article is that the original treatment for the movie was very similar, with Ripley being stuck on an isolated colony community, impregnated with a Xenomorph baby, but instead of prisoners, they were monks, and -- my favorite idea from this version -- the planet was man-made, a wooden planet (probably to help simulate a giant church). One thing to keep in mind about this version is that while it is the superior version of the film (it's only alluded to in that article, but they cut out the entire thread where Golic seems to have a religious reaction to the Xenomorph, rendering his decision to let it out completely incoherent -- that's the level of sloppiness in it, and in an especially corny moment, the chestburster pops out of Ripley as she's falling into the lava), it is also an unfinished version of the film, and would've been cut down further if Fincher had been allowed to continue working on it his way. I think they probably would've honed the themes of belief and faith a little more clearly. That said, I doubt they would've figured out how to solve one of the movie's bigger problems -- the fact that everyone looks the same and viewers can't tell them apart! Anyway, I can't wait to watch this when I can. Hopefully sometime tonight, but it might be tomorrow.

Vincent Hollow

I'd say one of the things that was changed from the theatrical cut to the Assembly that I wasnt so much a fan of was changing the original host from a dog to an ox, although I'm sure after seeing what happened to the dog(s) in The Thing, you're probably glad you didn't have to watch another dog get wrecked by an alien again. I'm also opposite of Tyler where I very much liked the Queen chestburster breaking out of Ripley as she falls into the vat. I think it's such a cool shot and even in her final moments, Ripley isn't letting that bitch escape (not that she could have anyway, but xenomorphs are a crafty bunch.)

Steve Mercier

The great David Fincher's first movie, and it kind of...well, I don't think it sucks. But it's got some major problems. Turns out, most of these were studio-related problems that David Fincher got stuck with, and he did the best he could do (or...at least that's the version I tell myself is true). But there's still some good stuff here: Sigourney Weaver, always; motherfucking Charles Dance, hell yes; and there's some interesting subtext here about trauma mixed with religious fanaticism that would've been intriguing if 20th Century Fox didn't fuck it all up in the name of franchise bullshit. Ah, well...still not a terrible movie, but it could never live up to the greatness that is Aliens and Alien. Personally, I'm waiting for Alien: Romulus (which I loved), and if you get to it, the show Alien: Earth (which was fantastic). Still going to check this out, though. Good stuff.

Vincent Hollow

I apologize for my note being a novel more than a note. When it comes to anything Alien, I just go full fan boy and the delete button is pretty hard to find when I'm geeking out. 😂 At least I only have this much enthusiasm for the original four films and not so much the films that came afterward. 👀

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OH MY GOD IT WAS A DOG?!?!?! I am very glad they changed that. 🤣

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And a chestburster DOES COME OUT OF HER ORIGINALLY?! That was literally one of my complaints about the ending, was it felt too bland.

Vincent Hollow

It was, sadly. But it wasn't shown as much as in The Thing. In the theatrical cut, the dog of one of the prisoners gets impregnated and later "gives birth" during the cremation of Newt and Hicks. The scene juxtaposed the prayer given by Dillon with rapid cuts to the dog during the different levels of "burst". The effects looked really good too, all practical.

Thadman

I didn't know they changed any of this. I've only seen the theatrical and the ending chest bursting scene is one of the vivid things I remember. Definitely wouldn't characterize it as bland. That and the dog. I remember not caring for the oppressively bleak tone, but disagreed with people saying it was a bad film. I said it is good, but not fun to watch.

Perry Campbell

Not watching reaction but glad u took the time to react to it, For fans that liked it. You should see some of James Cameron interviews about the Movie, He was pissed 😡 lol.

Perry Campbell

Nice Michael Biehn has podcast talking about his iconic movies. He had James Cameron on his show it was amazing. Michael said he had a crush on Sarah Connor on Terminator, who wouldn’t lol 😍😍😍

Tyler Foster

OK, now that I've watched the reaction, here's some backstory that might clarify some things about this version of the film for you. As others have alluded to, this was the first feature film for up-and-coming music video and commercial director David Fincher. At the time, yes, this was supposed to be the end of the franchise, because there was the unspoken assumption that trilogies were the norm, thanks to stuff like Star Wars and Back to the Future. Sigourney's demands were that there were no guns in the movie and that Ripley would die. It was a big deal for Fox and so they spent the entire production process micromanaging Fincher, pressuring him to make changes, interfering with what he wanted to do. Still, he managed to persevere through the production and put together a cut of the film, which is the cut that you watched, the "assembly cut," named because it was just a rough draft. After seeing it, Fox demanded major changes. Given how tough it was just to reach that point, Fincher didn't want to deal with the studio anymore, and quit the project instead of completing the reshoots and re-editing the film. (Years later, it took some heavy reassurances that he would be guaranteed creative control before he agreed to return to Fox and make Fight Club a few years later, after the success of Se7en.) In any case, it's worth understanding this version of the movie as unfinished. Some of the speeches that went on too long and the visual effects of the Xenomorph would have been fixed had Fox allowed Fincher to finish the film his way, or finish it at all. Fincher was offered the chance to assemble a true director's cut when this version was prepared, but he declined -- he still doesn't like to talk about the movie, even with its reappraisal. As such, the film is still in its rough draft form, the closest we'll ever get to seeing what he wanted to do. I watched the theatrical cut at least once, but I don't remember it. I do know, as I think I mentioned below, or in my article, is that the stuff with Golic is almost entirely deleted, so much so that his character's behavior doesn't even make sense. I can also say that some of Dance's stuff is definitely added for this version -- there is no autopsy in the theatrical cut, that I remember for sure. The guy who sacrifices himself to trap the Xenomorph for the first time is the same guy who tries to rape Ripley, putting on the goggles. Slightly before that, there's the guy who gets caught on fire and keeps screaming even after he's been put out. He was also in the gang that attacked her, which is why she gives them a look for a moment before going back to trying to douse the flames. Your mid-movie theory was correct: in the opening shots, we see an opened egg, a facehugger's legs tapping on one of the glass cryotubes. Ripley is impregnated then. One thing about the Alien films is that the gestation time of a facehugger is constantly changing based on what's convenient for the movie. I think the generally accepted interpretation here is that a queen takes longer to gestate, so Ripley lives longer. I can buy that. Although I personally watch the movie and don't really think about the geography (I can base my understanding that this is "somewhere else" based on how the characters behave), I understand the complaint. I also like your take on what the final scene would've been if it had been Clemens. I like Clemens and disliked that he died, but I never really thought about what the movie would be like if he had stayed alive. But I also find Ripley more compelling in this movie than you seem to. The reason I don't like the chestburster at the end in the theatrical cut is that it's silly. I agree that Ripley simply falling into the lava is sort of underwhelming, but it doesn't take more than a few seconds to fall into the furnace, and she's supposed to be wrestling with this thing ripping itself out of her chest on the way down? I think the idea of the ending being more of an emotional payoff by being between Clemens and Ripley would do a better job of adding something to the finale.

Tyler Foster

Recently, there was a fan edit of the assembly cut that cleaned up some of the special effects and tightened the editing up. I forget what it's called but that one might work better for you...even if they can't edit Clemens back to life.

Vincent Hollow

That version is The Legacy Cut. You can download it for free on their website a34k.net. Supposedly the best of both theatrical and Assembly Cut.

Vincent Hollow

There actually was the autopsy of Newt in the theatrical cut, unless you're referring to another autopsy scene added to the Assembly.

Tyler Foster

That's what I get for saying I remember that for sure. I could've sworn they had lopped out the entire autopsy after test screenings because audiences, already upset that Hicks and Newt were dead at all, were even more uncomfortable with watching her autopsy. FWIW, if anyone ever wants to see the differences between cuts of a movie, just Google the name of the movie and "movie censorship" and it should pull up a website with that name that exists to document the difference between cuts of films. it is a German website, I believe, so the phrasing can be sort of awkward and broken, but they give a detailed breakdown. As it turns out, what I must have been remembering is that there is a little extra dialogue in the scene (albeit not very much). But there's definitely more Clemens in this cut. https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1405

Tyler Foster

Cameron's opinion on sequels to movies he worked on is often a little strange. He has always been extremely negative toward Alien³, but he has also always gone out of his way to give positive quotes in the press to most of the Terminator sequels. Of T3, he said: "[Director] Jonathan [Mostow]’s made a really great movie. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s in great form. I really like what he’s done with it." For Terminator: Genisys, after seeing a screening, he commented: "I had no idea what to expect sitting down. I wasn’t involved in the making of the film. I didn’t direct it. I didn’t write it. I’m just a fanboy. I’m in a dark theater. The movie starts, and I start to see things that I recognize. It’s being very respectful of the first two films. I feel like the franchise has been reinvigorated, like this is a renaissance." He actually returned to produce the next and most recent film, Terminator: Dark Fate, and was more involved with that one than any Terminator movie since T2 (although the director and Cameron had a key disagreement; the director lost that agreement, and Cameron later admitted the director was right -- if you ever get there, it will be interesting to hear your thoughts). The only one he didn't praise was the fourth one, Terminator: Salvation, but he also refrained from bashing it, saying "I didn’t think it was bad. I didn’t think it was embarrassing. I don’t think [director McG] let the franchise down in some huge way, but I did feel some sort of unease that it didn’t go [further into uncharted territory].” To me, it's bizarre that he hates Alien³, but always finds nice things to say about movies that (even though I like T3 and Genisys, and appreciate aspects of Dark Fate) are generally considered much worse (audiences seem to have decided T3 is okay, although it was more mixed at the time. Not so much Salvation and Genisys, and Dark Fate is generally rated somewhere in between T3 and 4/5, which is still very low compared to 1/2).

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Vincent, thanks for the link. I like that way more than what they did in this version!

Sam

I have a lot of thoughts about this film, but not the same amount of time to write them down. So, the bullet point version is 1. I don't understand the hate this movie gets—I mean, I can appreciate it not being everyone's favorite, but the criticism it gets seems unjustified. 2. I agree with what this fellow Tyler said below about Newt and Hicks dying at the beginning of the movie. I think it was a very mature decision and it's a shame that this is such a significant point of criticism (not by you, but in general). 3. This film, even more than the others, illustrates how the xenomorph doesn't make any Darwinian sense. 4. Morse looks like a younger (bald) Johnny Rotten. 5. Sigourney Weaver is perfect. She should be in every film ever made... ever... (I appreciate she was a bit of a diva on this picture, but I don't care—in fact, that only makes me like her more). 6. I'm a Mclusky fan and as such have the lyrics: "But she was un in re in de decided/happy killing time/but there's an 8% chance/that you know Charles Dance/and you're no damn friend of mine" deep in my soul. So him dying early on was mildly amusing to me. 7. I like the concept, that runs throughout the series, of no one being a real villain apart from the corporation, being taken to its logical extreme. No matter how bad those criminals were or what they had done (both in the past and presently), they were all willing to sacrifice themselves for something moral. Even Ripley's rapist is given a brief moment to redeem himself by willingly giving his life to save the very person he had victimized. 8. You should watch Withnail and I, Paul McGann's (Golic) best film by far. Turns out I can even make bullet point notes rambling :) Cool reaction and I enjoyed watching along.

Chris Thom

Interesting choice for Fincher. The post-modern horror genre kind of makes sense. But would think his first movie might be an offbeat musical or something. Could picture him directing something like Moulin Rouge in those early years.

Chris Thom

Do you have a definitive ranking? That includes Prometheus?

Vincent Hollow

Alien ☆☆☆☆☆ Aliens ☆☆☆☆☆ Alien³ ☆☆☆☆ Alien³: Assembly Cut ☆☆☆ Alien Resurrection ☆☆☆½ Prometheus ☆☆☆☆ Alien Covenant ☆☆½ Alien Romulus ☆½