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Angel 4x17 (Extended) - Inside Out (Patreon)

Published:
2024-05-03 18:00:08
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2024-07-12 14:37:48
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THE BETRAYAL!!!!! i can't even. and also getting to see my darla, awww <3

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Just Jayy1

Darla says she was sent by the Powers to send Connor a message. While there is no evidence in the episode that the vision is telling the truth, Steven S. DeKnight confirms it on the dvd commentary. Lorne makes a double pop culture reference by nicknaming Connor "Kid Vicious." The Kid was a 1921 movie where he adopts an orphaned and delinquent little boy. Sid Vicious was a member of the punk rock band Sex Pistols. When Angel swings on a chain to attack him, Skip asks, "What are you, Tarzan?" In your native tongue the episodes name is "De Dentro para Fora" (From the Inside Out)

Alex Wright

Your accent gets more Brazilian when you get angry at Connor.

Alex Wright

I suppose to be fair to Connor, I imagine he's easier to manipulate given his terrible upbringing in a hell dimension knowing only one other human being. Though he definitely crosses a line in this episode.

StephanieB

"Don't kiss him. Your lips are warm we believe you don't kiss him."😂

ghostofdurruti

Skip's betrayal really does cut. I liked that guy so much 😭

StephanieB

Et tu, Skip? Yes, Domi, Skip really is a "bad guy". Oh, the betrayal! I have to agree with you that it is both mind-blowing and deeply upsetting when Skip tells us that everything leading up to this point was pre-planned by some (evil?) higher power. It is a gut punch and beyond baffling to think about. Also, knowing that Joss Whedon (and possibly some of the writers) is an Existentialist, it really doesn't make sense to me from that perspective. Whedon's whole approach to BtVS, and I believe for AtS as well, is that we cannot control the world around us, but we can always make choices and commit to those choices' meaning and direction within our lives. This little speech by Skip seems to fly in the face of that theory, as if everything is predestined and we in fact are not making any choices that affect our lives at all. But- Skip being a bad guy and all, he may not be the most reliable source for this information. And if what he says is the case, then how do we explain Fred's next moves/choices? I, for one, choose to believe he is lying (see what I did there?).

Vicky N

The writing on this show really reeks of desperation to make nonsensical plots make sense. Every thing that happened this season regarding the main plot have been preposterously contrived. As for the criticism of Connor, he is arguably the worst character on the show, but it is ridiculous to hate him for being the victim of manipulation his entire life. He was brought up in a hell dimension where his only human interaction was with a person who hated (for good reason) his biological father. It’s not something you shake up in a few months. The fact that he is particularly susceptible to “Cordy’s” manipulation is explained by the fact that his entire existence has been engineered to bring forward the Being borne at the end f the episode. So calling him stupid for that is not understanding the plot, as bad as it is. I think Darla represents Connor’s soul and it’s obvious that by the end when he kill the girl, it’s been overtaken by Cordy.

Alex Wright

This season makes a lot more sense -after hearing what Charisma has said about it - if you see it as Joss Whedon taking revenge on Charisma Carpenter for getting pregnant by doing a character assassination of Cordelia and even having her give birth to seemingly an Antichrist like figure.

Alex Wright

Though I did love the next few episodes when I first watched it.

Ron Fehr

Those Cordelia/Connor scenes were hard to watch all right. I felt the same way about his actions.

Ron Fehr

I never found Gina Torres particularly beautiful. Not ugly, but not beautiful, in my opinion.

Ron Fehr

Skip saying that all this was planned made me think of something. Like Buffy coming back from the dead, giving the First the opportunity to use her likeness, did Cordy getting the visions give Gina Torres's character the idea to use Cordy for her purpose?

Ron Fehr

It's amazing how you notice that, because I didn't. All I saw was her getting angrier.