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Buffy 2x17 (Extended) - Passion (AKA Domi's Heart Being Broken) (Patreon)

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2021-01-08 17:00:05
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2024-07-09 23:15:37
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You know things are going well when you are 100% stuck in the first stage of grief: Denial. Miss Pretty Weekend Lady.... I love you :( My heart hurts SO much.

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Buffy The Vampire Slayer 2x17 - The Destruction of Domi's Heart AKA Passion .mp4

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Todd Bolton

I think we just saw the five stages of grief, or maybe more. Brilliant, raw reaction. Somewhere Whedon says that they killed her to show that Angelus was fully evil and not just grouchy.

Tim Pierce

Alright, everyone. We've all been waiting for this moment. It's time. Domi needs a hug.

Steve Quast

Haven't started watching yet, but in advance: *hugs* 🍕🍕🍕 🍪🍪

Raven Dark

Domi, you poor thing. We love you. I feel like you've seen the real Buffy for the first time. Every time you called her Miss Weekend, my heart broke for you. I wanted to tell you so bad. Here's a twisted thought for you. The original plan wasn't for Jenny to die. It was supposed to be Oz. But Oz had become such a popular character that they decided to let him stay on. You've learned your first hard lesson about this show. No one has plot armor. No one is safe. Joss even said that was the idea behind Jenny dying, to show us that anyone can die. I had a very strange reaction to this one. Even before I watched the reaction itself, as soon as I read what you wrote, calling Jenny Miss Pretty Weekend Lady, I started crying. I'll never be able to hear the words Miss Weekend without shedding a tear. This is the power, not of the show itself, but of your reactions. Kudos to you, Domi. RIP, Miss Lady Weekend.

Ron Fehr

This was definitely a tear-jerker episode. My reaction was pretty much the same as yours, Domi. Something I thought that I should mention is the decision to have Angel in vamp-face when he did his evil deed. It was intentional. It was thought that seeing him as Angel instead of Angelus would make it impossible to ever forgive him.

Steve Quast

You've done it now, Angelus! You upset Domi. You've been a very bad puppy!

Steve Quast

Your reaction is your reaction. Nothing shit about it. It's real and understandable.

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

You legit made me cry at the end. I'm really so sorry. I felt just the same way. It's hard when a reactor says they love Jenny and Giles/Jenny. In comments you have to act all normal knowing what's to come because, seriously, you can't tell me you'd want to be spoiled, right? But it also makes my heart break a little when people are so into her. I am still not over it 20+ years later. I've only ever had one OTP in my life and it was them :`( I think it's perfectly acceptable to take a short break on youtube if you're still struggling to edit it. You can even post an explanation. I hope you can do it though because your reaction was brilliant. Everybody reacts differently and denial is perfectly valid, as is the total melt down at the end :) EVERYBODY is going to understand. I've even known a reactor say they didn't want to say anything and that's fine too. Also, this is the moment I felt I could never forgive Angel too. He had stepped over a line. I didn't care if it was Angelus. As you said, he has his face. That might not be fair but f him!!!!

Ron Fehr

I knew this episode was coming up, and I would have loved to have warned you. Although I would have loved to spare you the pain, eventually you would have needed to see it for yourself. There's the saying "Time heals all wounds", but in your case I don't know if it holds true. I've had years to get over it, I wonder if it will do the same for you.

Steve Quast

This is really an amazing episode. Arguably the best we've seen in the series so far. But it's also devastating. There's no denying that. Still, everything was put together so well. The setup, the pacing, the acting, the artistry, even the voice overs, which I'm not always a fan of, were done perfectly, adding just the right touch. Seeing Willow break down upon hearing of Jenny's death gets me every time. Angelus, you are a scoundrel! But you're also a dynamic villain. Thank you, Domi, for putting yourself through this emotional trauma for us. While we take no pleasure in your grief, we love seeing new fans react to the sadistic beauty and the emotional impact that is this episode, and your reaction does not disappoint. Thank you. We appreciate you. We grieve with you. And we're here to support you if you need to talk or a collective shoulder to cry on.

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

OK, factoids..... There's a shot cut from the shooting script just before Buffy goes to talk to Jenny. I'm sad it was cut because a) I'd like to have seen it and b) it explains why Buffy chose that moment to talk to her. (I mean it makes sense as it is but...) Anyway, just after Willow walks away there was supposed to be a shot of Giles watching Jenny walking in to school with (and I quote) 'palpable longing'. It's like a bloody fan fic lol Anyway, Buffy sees this, then Giles realises she has, looks embarrassed and leaves and THAT'S why she went to talk to Jenny. I think Giles forgave her a long time ago. The moment Jenny told him what Buffy had said he's smiling, then invites her to his place (!!!) and leaves with an enormous grin. This doesn't seem like somebody who's in any doubt about whether she's to blame for anything. I'm SO glad she got to see that! She also looks happy (and I'm sure Giles was worried that she's not forgive HIM for not talking to her so thank f that's in there too). My point is, like you, if they hadn't had that scene then I'd have killed somebody (Joss presumably). It's bad enough that they didn't get back together but at least they both know they WANTED to get back together. Second factoid, the music when Giles finds her is from La Bohème but they cut up the duet and reordered the lines. This is not something I noticed as I don't know the opera or speak Italian but every line the singers sing refer to Giles' feelings and thoughts in that scene. e.g. just before he opens the note : "I daren't say what I'd like..." Giles opens the note "Tell me." And when he walks up the stairs: "Oh! lovely girl! Oh, sweet face bathed in the soft moonlight. I see in you the dream I'd dream forever!" And at the end "Ah! Love, you rule alone!" They put that much thought into it that they actually recut an opera only a handful of people would understand to max out the pain :`( Third factoid, there is a script for when Giles talks to Buffy and Willow on the phone. Anthony Steward Head was actually on the other end of the live line talking to them when they filmed that, he said it was one of the moments on Buffy that always stood out for him. OK, I may have made you cry again and, if so, sorry :(

Lunarwind

well, I'm just gonna be a monster and eat my dinner while watching you having an emotional breakdown :p

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

Oh, another factoid, ASH said that he (I think) said to Joss shouldn't it be a surprise that Jenny is dead but Joss said no and eventually he saw why. The genius of that scene is that its impact never goes away, it's the fact that he's so bloody happy and you know what's coming. You just want him to never go upstairs so, no matter how many times you watch it, it hurts. In fact, since you were still in denial I'm not surprised it hurt a lot more the second time. I've seen a number of reactors saying 'yeah, but she's not dead right' so you are not alone in your dogged refusal to accept it!

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

I'm not going to say a lot about the actual episode except to remind you of the dialogue near the beginning when Buffy says she should tell her mum. I'm gonna paraphrase a bit but Giles says he understands but Buffy says he doesn't because ANGEL ISN'T IN YOUR BEDROOM AT NIGHT and he tells her that she CAN'T AFFORD TO BE A SLAVE TO HER PASSIONS NO MATTER HOW PROVOCATIVE ANGEL IS. Of course, both of these statements apply to Giles by the end of the episode :(

Kirsten (Heavenli24)

This is such a great episode. It’s heartbreaking, but it is so well-done; a piece of art. There’s a reason why Season 2 of Buffy is considered to be so good, and this episode is part of that reason. Everyone reacts to it in their own way, and your initial denial (and later realisation) is perfectly valid. Most people are so shocked by Jenny’s death that they completely miss the scene between Giles and Willow afterwards… it just doesn’t register for them because they can’t get their heads around what just happened to Jenny... so it was nice to see you be able to fully watch and appreciate that scene. Another bit of trivia about the episode… the background theme music for this episode is called ‘Remembering Jenny’. Ed Sheeran is a big Buffy fan and he actually sampled Remembering Jenny in his song Afire Love.

palisade

Yeah....been waiting for this one. Nothing to say really that others haven't said. I've watched this episode many times and it never gets easier. Joss is a right ba@terd and an evil genius. I remember a few years ago when it was such a big deal that J.R.R. Martin was killing off major characters in Game of Thrones and it was treated as if it was something that hadn't been done before. Ah.....nope! Joss got there much earlier and did it better. He is truly a pioneer (now if it just didn't hurt so d#mn much.

Ron Fehr

I love how you realized at the end of the episode that all was not lost. Upon seeing the disc fall, you knew it right away. I guess it also shows Angel being a bit behind the times. He knew about computers, but didn't realize that the information could be saved externally.

Justafox305

I remember one on of the earlier episodes, you said something like.. I like Jenny and I can see her and Giles in a long loving relationship (I don’t remember exactly) and I just remember thinking.. “ohhhh noo”.. she’s going to be devastated!

Ron Fehr

Justafox305, I had the same thought.

Lunarwind

Anyone notice a lot of the Cordy jokes are about cars, but as soon as Jenny dies and she's asked to drive to Giles place we see the kinder, caring Cordelia ? Also, that's 4 episodes in a row dealing with relationships; 14: Buffy and Angel 15: Willow and Oz 16: Xander and Cordy 17: Giles and Jenny

UTU49

I’m so sorry, Domi. Watching this was like watching a lamb to the slaughter. We know how much you love Jenny. I always want to warn reactors, but it’s not my place to do that for an entire community of viewers. When I watch a TV show with a friend, I occasionally say, “Okay. This episode is a little rough on the characters,” so that they have a little bit of warning. In that case what I’m saying affects only me and them… and no one else… and they are free to tell me if they don’t want these warnings… or if they want MORE of a warning. Angel is no ordinary villain… and Buffy is no ordinary TV series. I love these characters to a degree that I would not have thought possible. What Angel did to Jenny and to Giles is one of the sickest things I have ever seen a fictional character do. We’ve seen brutal torture… which is in many ways far worse, but Angel’s actions here are so gleefully and methodically hurtful. “Are you trying to get yourself killed? You can’t leave me. I can’t do this alone.” I can’t even type those words without crying. There’s nothing whatsoever wrong with your reaction to this episode. It’s a painful experience, and we watch these reactions to go through it together. Your reaction was real and was a struggle. I don’t think anyone will hold it against you if you need to take a week or 2 off. If anyone does have a problem with you taking some time off, we will roast them. Those of us who see you as a person: we will roast them. Welcome to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It’s not always like this. RIP Miss Pretty Lady Weekend, 1970 – 1998. I’m literally crying right now.

Carl

This video is the clearest example of why your reactions are so addicting. You are so clear where you stand and your opinions of everything, that it makes the anticipation of your reactions that much greater. So PLEASE keep on going. You will become attached to many future great characters as you continue. The brilliance of the writing in this episode goes without saying, but I have to point out the brilliance of David Boreanaz as an actor. Back when I was watching this show live I didn't have a lot of appreciation for great villains. David takes range to a new extreme in this season. Angel is probably higher on my list of characters than most here. But putting that aside he goes from a super likeable knight in shining armor type character to one of the most ruthless and sadistic villains ever. All within the same season and a half, and in my opinion, pulls off both roles flawlessly. A lot of the emotion being drawn out of people does have to do with the writing, but it's also the sign of incredible acting.

zerofk

Oh wow that ending. I hope you're doing better now. Episodes like this are exactly what makes Buffy such a great show. They make the viewer feel - really feel. And yes it's a negative emotion in this case, but it stems from love. Love between the characters, and our love for those characters. And that is worthwhile.

HuntingSwan

Domi never worry that your reaction isn't up to par just cos you don't immediately break down in tears. Everyone has different ways of experiencing the loss of a character and shock and denial is a common one. Jenny was such a cool badass babe and you showed that you got her every time she showed up. Loving the regular uploads of episodes but no rush!

Al

I knew this might be hard for you but that was very hard to watch, hope you're feeling a bit better by now. This was a landmark episode for Buffy and as someone who didn't watch this live I can only imagine how shocking it must have been then. This episode aired in 1998! Main character deaths were very unusual back then. Yet watching it now when when characters die all the time on TV, this death still hits hard. It also serves a purpose rather than just being for shock value as Buffy finally commits to killing Angelus. What I find so impressive about this episode is the way they balance out the tragedy with some really funny scenes. The students coming into the library is gold, but I'm most impressed on how they give Giles and Willow some great moments of comedy right after Jenny's death before diving back into the serious death. The scene where Giles finds the body is a masterful example of how you can do something truly horrifying even with the strict restrictions on violence that a network TV show has. Trivia Joss Whedon says they kept David Boreanz in vamp face when they killed Jenny because they worried no-one would be able to forgive him if he did it with his human face. Although, in your case that might not work. Angelus snaps her neck rather than bite her because the writers didn't want people to think Jenny could come back as a vampire. This is Anthony Stewart Head's (Giles) favourite episode. I'm guessing because he got to play so many different emotions.

Christine

It's been over 20 years, and it still hits me this hard every time :-(

Miranda

Oh man that was hard to watch! Everything you said earlier in the episode was some painfully ironic, and I haven't seen anyone go into denial about Jenny's death quite so hard, which made it that much more interesting and painful to watch. I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's true that Buffy is a painful show to watch, but I think it's such a rewarding journey. I first watched this episode and most of the show (I caught up to live episodes after watching the first few seasons on dvd) during my middle school years and it was such a formative experience. LIke this show provided me so much emotion resilience, just living through episodes like this. As well as, making me sharp witted..I've low-key stolen so many brilliant jokes and sharp retorts for this show.. But so, I hope that it's a journey you can enjoy overall and I know already you were noticing and appreciating the brilliance of the episode from a filmmaking perspective. I hope with even more distance you can enjoy those aspects as well. I only just noticed a brilliant little script thing. Jenny says to her class, "And I want a paper copy and a copy on disk" and then..you know.. thats what she does with the ritual.. later 🥺that's such a cute brilliant detail, that I only noticed after how many rewatches! Also, I LOVED your insight, Domi, about how Jenny is/was/is coming to her own conclusions and making her own decisions about how to act, despite how she was raised, and I wanted to add that I think that quality is also revealed in her choice to study computers. After being raised in a traditional, and magic based community she has still embraced technology and not viewed the two as mutual exclusive. Instead she is integrating them and as she points out to Giles in her first episode, technology frees information to be easily and universally accessible. I love those details about her character and I love that it fits so well with one of the themes of the show, that Buffy is a modern 20th century slayer and she's not beholden to the old, traditional ways of doing things. Just like Jenny. 🥰😭

Thom Purdy

Remember when the Master described "Angel" as the most vicious creature I ever met". The problem is that the Master never met Joss Whedon.

Antonio

Not that we weren't crying already, even after watching this episode multiple times, but seeing your grieving process was about as heartbreaking as it gets, and I'm sorry you had to go through it! For real, though, you have some of the most lucid analyses in the Buffy reactor-verse - it's great to watch. Oh, and just a reminder that this was only episode 29 of 144!

Phoenix Dawn

Love this episode and still hits me hard lol. Sorry Domi that we enjoy your misery ahahah. Rest well Ms. Weekend, you will be missed.

Nicholas J Hoover

Really appreciate your vulnerability in the wrap up. Openly showing your grief like that is really going to make a difference for people to touch on their own sadness and process their own grief. You are changing the world right here right now.

KT

OH tiny thing, the bit where Giles doesn't suspect anything from the note that says "upstairs": he didn't actually see any of the notes. In fact, we only see Buffy tell Giles about that first note. Buffy just says "no human fatalities" about the fish and Willow just tells Giles that Angel showed up to talk shit to Joyce. Just a small little character/plot continuity that I appreciate. Great reaction! I had a friend react the exact same way to Jenny's death, be like "this isn't game of thrones, that can't be what just happened, the screen is too dark." I do believe Buffy's dream in Innocence that made her suspect Jenny (she, Jenny, and Angelus are at someone's funeral and Angelus says "you have to know what to see") is actually foreshadowing Jenny's death, while simultaneously reflecting Angel's metaphorical death (losing his soul) in that episode. It's up for interpretation, but the cemetery they're in looks an awful lot like the one Jenny is buried in. And Jenny yelling "people are going to die" at her uncle in Innocence is a big oof, seeing as Angelus murders both of them. Also I just realized: Innocence was about Buffy's love life falling apart, then Phases was about Willow and Oz moving to the next level, BB&B was about Xander and Cordelia truly getting together, and Passion was about Jenny and Giles reconciling and then... falling apart.

Jordan Haddow

I loved your reaction. It can be painful to be so publicly exposing your emotions, but honestly, that's what the best reactors do. I hate the ones that say they are doing a reaction and show little expression then basically do a review of the episode. I also wanted to say. For a show that is on the surface a ditzy popular blond who kills vampires, it is one of the best I've seen for character development. The writing isn't always superb, but the character development is. From the first season to the last, most of the characters are practically unrecognizable. As such, I always tell people, have tissues close at hand always with this show. Sometimes the catalyst for the most character development is devastation. It's quite true that no character is safe and even a fluff filler episode can turn on a dime and have you reaching for the tissues. Just keep in mind, most of the saddest episodes are later considered some of the best. It a while, you may feel the same with this episode. The really nice thing about this show though, a character death is pretty much always used to further character development and not just to shock the audience. They have purpose and effect on the Buffyverse. Plus, there is usually a happy or funny episode that comes along and brings back the good feels.