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Buffy 2x22 (Extended) - Becoming (2) (Patreon)

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2021-01-25 17:00:11
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2024-07-09 23:21:56
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Sorry if this reaction sucks but here you go :) You guys have until Friday, February 5th to send any final questions about this episode or any other S2 moment for Part 2 of my Q&A video (I'm giving a long deadline since I want to give time for the people who join my Patreon in the beginning of the month to participate too). Just comment your questions in this post.

Also, here is the upcoming schedule since it's a bit different than usual and I want you guys to know what to expect:

Friday (January 29th): Season 2 Discussion Video

Monday (February 1st): Part 1 of my Q&A Video

Friday (February 5th): NO POST

Monday (February 8th): Buffy 3x01 :)

I'm giving myself one day off because I've been very exhausted and have very large assignments due that week, which I will need to focus on. I might need to slow down my rhythm soon but I plan on keeping the 2 posts a week for Buffy Season 3 for as long as I can!

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Comments

Dan

Bye bye Angel. I guess we won't be seeing *him* again...

Eric Haefele

SURPRISE!!! That is what you get for trying to predict this show.

Ron Fehr

My take on this is that she needs time to think, maybe even mourn. She personally had to kill(?) the man she loved.

HookedOnSwans

Haven't watched the review part yet so maybe you figure it out, just wanted to say why Buffy had to "kill" him. Whistler (Demon guy from the flashbacks) told Buffy that Angel's blood would open Acathla and only Angel's blood would close it again. Thanks for the reaction! I normally don't comment on anything because my friends know I'm notorious for spoiling things for them 😅 so you probably won't see me commenting again for a while, but I love your reactions! Its so interesting to hear your thoughts considering you've seen the latter half of Angel before!

Nicholas J Hoover

What do you think about the thing that possessed Willow being Jenny? Maybe she really did find back and save everyone in the last episode...

Tim Pierce

27 straight episodes without Darla.

Tim Pierce

Knowing what you already know about the future does remove some of the sadness of this episode. First Willow and her coma, then Angel. When we first watched this we had NO IDEA if Angel would be back.

Steve Quast

Barely had time to watch. No time to comment. But like Angel (at some point), I'll be back!

Negative

I notice a lot of people seem to miss what Whistler says when he's talking with Buffy. "One blow will send them both back to hell"... He basically tells her flat out that once the demon is awoken, only Angel's death will close the vortex. It's also what he meant when he said she still has one more thing to lose. Angel.

Negative

Plus you just gotta imagine the weight of this ending back when it aired, when we didn't know Angel would eventually come back (and even have his own show). Angel just died, Buffy is expelled, and she is currently a murder suspect. So she just books it out of Sunnydale and everyone has to wait for season 3.

Ron Fehr

I think Joyce's threat was more like a bluff to get Buffy to stop being a slayer. You could see when she read Buffy's note, that she regretted her harsh words. She didn't really want Buffy to leave.

Negative

Also I wanted to point out one thing that slightly bothered me in this episode, was Spike's response to seeing Angel possibly about to kill Buffy. "He's gonna kill her..." then he does this "oh well" thing and walks away. While it's a funny scene, it kind of contradicts his whole "i like this world" thing. Because if Angel kills Buffy then the world is going to be sucked into hell. Say goodbye to all those things Spike said he liked about this world. But I will forgive that scene by just figuring Spike sort of has a one track mind. He got Dru back, so he's outta there.

Dave Ford

"Okay, so that's it... Goodbye!" <13 mins from end of video> :-)

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

It's interesting how different your reactions are having seen some of Angel. Having said that, when I first saw it I was so mad at Angel/Angelus that I didn't give a hoot that he was dead EXCEPT that Buffy was sooooooo sad and that rips your heart out. But for me, the worst part was definitely the torture and Jenny fake out. I completely understand why you reacted that way to Jenny's return, it is a real kick in the teeth BUT you do also kinda get to see them again, but it's all twisted as f**k and if Buffy needs therapy then I really think we need to book Giles in as well :'( A couple of things, I really think that when Giles says the 'tutu' line he's trying to get Angel to kill him. I never see comments along these lines and I think a small part of it IS him having a last moment of bravado (which is what most people seem to think) but mostly I think he knows nobody knows where he is and he can't hang on forever so it's the only way not to tell Angel. And it almost works, until Spike shows up, because Buffy told him to save Giles, but that made Spike set Dru on Giles, which was the reason he gave up the info, which meant that Buffy had to stab Angel.... Isn't all so freaking complicated. Plus, hours of torture he can withstand but attack Giles' heart and he cracks :'''( Plus, Willow, I know you're trying to be optimistic and all, but for gawd's sake, do you really think Giles wants to think about Buffy possibly just buggering off with Angel and not telling anybody where she is. Jeez girl, show some tact! (I love Willow, but sometimes her romantic side can blot out a bit of her reason) I'm gonna talk more in another post (be warned lol) but for now I've got potentially a fun factoid: ASH said in an interview that, because he didn't have much to work with for the 'tell me when it hurts' scene (since DB wasn't ACTUALLY breaking his fingers!) he asked around for tips. Somebody said to have a very hot chilli in your mouth and bite down because it makes you jump just a little bit. So he did, and he thought 'fantastic, that worked great' and THEN he thought 'crap, in my next scene I have to kiss Robia and Juliet and my mouth is on fire, OMG!!! So he spent the next half hour in his trailer frantically brushing his teeth. Which apparently worked because nobody got burned ;)

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

PS. Also I think it's canon now that Giles is the best kisser on the show, that was 48 seconds guys ;) (yes, I counted lol)

Carl

I love all your videos, but this one was one of your best! Why the lack of confidence? That was before your extended wrapup(which is one of my favorite parts of these reactions. Although I do understand that the amount to unpack and organize in your mind) is going to vary from episode to episode), The literal sword to the chest of Angel was a figurative sword to mine.(My personal Jenny scene.) For my personal rankings everyone else is a distant 3rd to Buffy and Angel. So yeah this episode brought out lots of emotions, especially back then. Lastly I have to say even with some of the stuff you know is coming, sooooooo many questions. :p

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

OK, I can finally post my Buffy/Angel and Jenny/Giles parallels post, yay \o/ So, the thing is, in 1x07 we get introduced to Angel (the real Angel) and 1x08 we get introduced to Jenny. They both go away for a while and then 1x11 Angel is back and 1x12 Jenny is back. I think both relationships are in very early stages of 'I like you, run away' at the moment lol Ok, I know that's no biggie and tbh Jenny was only supposed to be in one episode and only came back because ASH and RLM had such great chemistry they thought, hmmm.....love interest? But S2 it's a lot more significant how they mirror each other's relationships. There are a lot of parallels between Buffy and Jenny, both very independent and in many ways in charge of the pacing of their respective relationships. They both have a duty and try to do the right things but it ends in disaster. Also Angel and Giles, both seem to have been living a rather lonely life (canon for Angel and I think somewhat implied, perhaps, for Giles). It is definitely true that Buffy gives Angel a new lease on life and I think you can say the same for Jenny with Giles. So, in 2x01 both couples are in a bit of a holding pattern, but 2x02, Giles is asking Jenny out (in his mind, I think she may have done the asking ;) ) and the episode ends with Buffy and Angel walking off hand in hand. Then there's tentative dating with on and off again stuff for quite a while. It's worth noting that in 2x07 Angel has to tell Buffy about the terrible things he did in his 'youth' and in 2x08 Giles is doing the same. 2x09 and 2x10 Jenny and Giles are broken up and Buffy and Angel are almost broken up by the 'restore Dru plan'. 2x11 both couples are apparently happily together again. And then we come to 2x13 and 2X14. The day after Buffy's birthday Angel wakes up and Buffy loses him to Angelus. The same day, Giles finds out about Jenny and that's the end of them. 2x17 (The Episode that shall never be named ;) ) Giles loses Jenny and it's the episode that Buffy finally loses hope that she'll get Angel back. Both Angel and Jenny are 'truly gone'. And now 2x22, the gut punch. They BOTH get their lovers back for an instant. Both get to kiss them one last time and then both lose them in different but IMO equally horrific ways. Buffy, well it's fairly obvious why that's horrific, but Giles not only has to deal with the fake out, he knows he's the one who gave the information away and that because of his 'stupidity' in believing it was Jenny he almost ended the world. Oh, and in 2x08 Angel saved Jenny's life (from the terrible thing in Giles' past), and in 2x22 Jenny essentially saved Angel (from the terrible thing in his past) so, well, that's freaking sad :'( Anyway, that is my (actually abbreviated ;) ) version of the parallels between the two relationships and characters and how they have all been driving a lot of the plot of the first two seasons. I tried to keep it short ;)

Kirsten (Heavenli24)

Ah… this episode. It gets me every time. As soon as Sarah McLachlan’s Full of Grace starts playing and SMG starts crying, I get all teary-eyed. When I first saw the season 2 finale, I actually already knew that Angel was getting his own show, because in the UK we were about a year behind the US… so Becoming Part 2 didn’t air in the UK until after Angel had already started filming in the US… so the big thing for me going into Season 3 was the anticipation of how Angel was going to come back. This is what Joss does so well… he just knows exactly how to break your heart in the most bittersweet way: he gives you want you want in a way that makes you realise you didn’t want it after all. First you want Buffy to defeat Angelus, then you’re so happy the spell worked and they can be happy… and then you realise that Buffy is going to have to do the worst thing imaginable: kill the man she loves. She was finally prepared to kill Angelus, but in a cruel twist of fate, Angel is the one she has to kill instead. And it’s not just the ending… there are so many big emotional moments in this episode: Xander talking to Willow in the hospital and telling her he loves her, Buffy and Joyce’s argument, Jenny and Giles… each one is just so good. I love Spike teaming up with Buffy here as well - their interactions are awesome (and I am not a Spuffy shipper in any way). Every scene from Spike beating up the cop to Buffy walking out of the house after Joyce tells her not to come back, is just perfect. Becoming Part 1 and 2 are probably my favourite episodes of the entire show (I also own the special release VHS boxset of these 2 episodes, along with the Surprise/Innocence VHS set). There are other Buffy episodes that are well up there as well (Innocence and Passion being two of them), but this season finale has to be some of the best television I think I’ve seen.

Antonio

With reference to your 'Buffy and Cordy' slip at the end, I'm now wondering what we'd call that? Bordy or Corduffy? Bordelia, maybe?

Antonio

Also, I was kinda worried that you'd see Robia LaMorte's name in the credits, but I fortunately I think you missed it! Generally though, it's probably best to avoid reading them if you are able to, not that it's absolutely crucial or anything.

zerofk

You were warned about the tissues... "I'm gonna pull out your ribcage and wear it as a hat" is my favourite threat on tv or movies. I'm still waiting for an opportunity to use it in real life ;-P Buffy telling her mother she's the slayer is a pretty thinly-veiled metaphor for coming out to your parents. And Joyce's reaction is pretty much everything that can go wrong in that scenario. "Are you sure you're [a vampire slayer/gay]?" "Have you tried not being [a slayer/gay]? " The reference to a "strong father figure" and Buffy's rebuttal that "it's just [fate/who I am]." This interpretation doesn't paint Joyce in the best light but because of the metaphor we can understand her position.

Cathy Gillies

This episode is so gut wrenching, even when you know that Angel will be coming back (unlike the first time I watched it 😭). I love the parallel between Darla telling Angel to close his eyes before turning him into a vampire and Buffy doing the same before stabbing him. Great reaction as always.

UTU49

I have a jumbled mess of thoughts about this episode, so I'll just share a couple of them without perfectionistically trying to decide which ones would be the best to share. I love your reaction videos, even when (or especially when?) your thoughts are chaotic and uncertain. It's part of the experience. The impact the show has on you is part of the experience as a reaction-watcher. Remember that you definitely do not have to put on a performance for us. You don't have to be an expert movie reviewer or film analyst. We just like watching Buffy with you. Next thought. I think you misread Spike a little bit. I don't think he was (or is) good in this episode. He is merely allying himself with Buffy in order to get Drusilla away from Angel. That doesn't make him good. Also, it might be worth pointing out that we have very limited information about what happened to Angel, whether he is dead, or where he could be -- if anywhere. It was really fun to hear your guesses about Season 3, not so much because of how much you did or did not get right, but because it really helps us to immerse ourselves in THIS particular point in the series, in a way that we could not without watching a reactor that we enjoy. Okay, I gotta stop writing now -- I'm cramping up. :/

Raven Dark

Sigh. The comment I left on here disappeared. Again. This is why when I end up with spelling errors, I don't always fix them. As soon as I fixed it and hit send, poof. It's gone. Allow me to put a slightly darker spin on Xander's lie, telling Buffy that Willow said to kick his ass when he was supposed to tell her they were doing the spell. And remember to keep in mind, this is coming from someone who actually LIKES Xander. You mentioned that you thought Buffy would have come up with a clever way to stop Acathla from opening his big fat mouth without having to kill Angel. Yes, and you know why she couldn't? Because she didn't know they were doing the spell, which means she didn't know she had another option. (growls at Xander). Had Buffy known they were doing the spell, and thus knew there was a chance of restoring Angel, she could have tried to just keep Angel from Acathla, from pulling the sword out. She could have kept the fight in another room, or taken it right outside. She could have tried to tie him up until the spell was completed, and then if the spell didn't work, take it from there. By lying, Xander severely limited Buffy's choices in battle. He had NO RIGHT to do that. Especially since he did it because he didn't want Angel to be saved. His doing that also left Buffy with the wrong impression of who's side Willow was on. In addition to all the other reasons Buffy left (being wanted for murder, Snyder expelling her, Joyce kicking her out, having to kill the man she loves), she's also now under the impression that Willow, who was a big Bangel shipper from minute one) now wants Angel dead. Xander made what he thought was the best choice for Buffy, leaving her no way to be with Angel. And it was a decision that he had no right to make. I love Xander, but man, does he have some dickish flaws. Fantastic reaction as always, Domi. You doubt yourself way too much. :D Also, Jenny. *Sob*

Jordan Haddow

Nobody is quite the same after watching this episode for the first time. Great reaction. This episode is my litmus test for reactors. It's basically the first episode I watch if the reactor is up to this point already. It really gives a good idea how good they are. I loved your shock, and yes I saw those tears. Everybody is always so ashamed to cry, but in this platform many of us are right there along with you, so don't feel bad. One thing I thought I would mention. I think you said you started watching Angel at about season 3. I don't want to spoil anything, but just keep in mind that season 1 of Angel starts after the next season of Buffy. So timeline wise, season 3 of Angel runs along with season 6 of Buffy. So much has changed in the Buffyverse during season 2, just imagine all that could happen in the next 3 seasons, when Buffy will finally sync up with what you've seen before. Anywho, keep up the good work and I can't wait to see you react the season 3 episode 1. (Oh, and don't worry, season 3 won't disappoint) ;)

Ron Fehr

I believe that one of the questions I asked for your season 2 Q&A may have already been answered somewhat after you finished watching episode 22. But you may address it anyway.

Steve Quast

Congratulations on finishing what is possibly my favorite season finale of all time. It may be partially the nostalgia, but this season corresponded with my first year of college, and the finale occurred right around the time I was taking finals for that year. This season was also my introduction into the show and I remember how much I wanted Angel to get back to normal. I remember having to wait week after week just to get to this point, just to see what would happen next. For me this finale was amazing. I loved the flashbacks, something I didn't even know I wanted. And as heartrending as it was at the time, I remember the impact seeing Angel be re-ensouled just in time to be plunged into a torturous hell dimension, an unfortunate lot to be sure, but it was either him or the world. I remember the long wait over summer (at least four months) waiting for season 3 to begin so we could finally see what happened next. This show began back in the very early internet days. We're talking before Facebook, even before MySpace, we're talking AOL. Back then my screen name was VampyrSpyk (I had to use y's instead of i's and e's because they only allowed 10 characters back then). There were a lot of Buffy profiles back then, too. And under their relationship status they said something like "I killed him" (frowny face). Yeah...this show literally made murderers out of hundreds, if not thousands, girls in their teens and 20's. Good times. Such good times. There's too much to say about the brilliance of these two episodes, and I'm not sure I can say much that hasn't already been said anyway. But everything from the acting to the heartache to the soundtrack is just amazing. My favorite part was seeing Spike team up with Buffy, although temperoraly. His whole purpose for doing so was to get Dru back, he's still fully devoted to her. But the possibilities of Spike joining forces again with Buffy or someone else from the Scooby gang was intriguing to me and I must have played about a million and a half possible scenarios in my head over the summer. Anyway, I really enjoyed your reactions to these two episodes, they were arguable the best ones so far. Not only are you good at reactions, but I also appreciate the time you spend hanging out with us here in the comments. It's really cool and does not go unnoticed. See you in season 3, Domi!

Steve Quast

And now for another one of the best dialogues in the Buffyverse (and possibly all of television) *Drum roll* Spike: *beats up a cop* *thunder and lightning* Hello, cutie! Spike: *getting punched* Will you hold on a second? *gets bitchslapped* White flag here, I quit! Buffy: Let me clear this up for you. We're mortal enemies. We don't get timeouts. Spike: You want to go a round, pet, I'll have a gay old time of it. You want to stop Angel, we'll have to play this a bit differently. Buffy: What are you talking about? Spike: I'm talking about your ex, pet. I'm talking about putting him in the bloody ground. Buffy: This has to be the lamest trick you guys have EVER thought up! Spike: He's got your watcher. Right now he's probably torturing him. Buffy: Okay, what do you want? Spike: I told you, I want to stop Angel. *laughs* I want to save the world. Buffy: Okay you do remember you're a vampire, right? *Spike's epic monologue begins -- thunder and lightning* Spike: We like to talk big, vampires do. 'I'm going to destroy the world.' It's just tough guy talk. Strutting around with your friends over a pint of blood. The truth is I like this world. You've got dog racing, Manchester United, and you've got people. Billions of people walking around like happymeals with legs. *Spike summons lightning from the heavens to light the cig he stole from the cop* Then someone comes along with a vision. With a real passion for destruction. Angel could pull it off. Good-bye piccadilly, farewell Leicester bloody square, do you know what I'm saying? Buffy: Okay, you're not down with Angel. Why would you ever come to me? Spike: I want Dru back. I want her like she was before he came back. The way she acts around him. Buffy: You're pathetic! Spike: *punch* Buffy: *punches back* I lost a friend tonight! And I may lose more! Spike: I wasn't in on that raiding party! Buffy: The whole world could get sucked into hell, and you want my help because your girlfriend's a big HOE? Well let me take this opportunity to NOT CARE. Spike: I can't fight them alone and neither can you! Buffy: *backhands Spike* I hate you! Spike: And I'm all you've got. Buffy: Alright....talk. Spike: Right. Just let me kill this guy.... Buffy: *does her best Karen Ehh-HEM* ....let's get inside. *As they're walking away, Spike casts a glance back at the cop and makes his car explode* Buffy: What was that? Spike: What was what? *End scene*

Steve Quast

And let's not forget this little gem: Angel: Alright, somebody GET the chainsaw! Spike: Now, now, don't let's lose our temper. Angel: You keep out of it, sit 'n' spin! Spike: If you cut him up you'll never get your answers! Angel: Since when did you become so level-headed. Spike: Right about the time you became so pig-headed. If you have your way with him you'll never get to destroy the world and I don't fancy spending the next month trying to get librarian out of the carpet! There are other ways. [This line deserves way more accolades than it gets. It's one of Spike's funniest lines in the whole show.]

Steve Quast

And of course Spike and Joyce are just amazing. *Awkward silence* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* *Awkward* Joyce: ......have we met? Spike: Oh, um, you hit me with an axe one time time. Do you remember? 'Get the hell away from my daughter!'

Devon Martin

Season 5 is my personal fave, but season 3 is close behind...some of the best episodes are in season 3 🙂

litafanforlife

This episode is amazing and a total emotional rollercoaster. It completely breaks my heart and I still cry when I watch it. Buffy's last scene with Angel completely crushes my heart. I never stopped loving Buffy/Angel. Even with the actions of Angelus, I never stopped wanting Buffy and Angel back together, so this episode really killed me lol. Poor Buffy in this episode. Her heart is broken over killing Angel. Add on what her mother said to her, to being expelled, to being wanted for murder, killing Angel and thinking that both of her friends wanted her to kill him with Xander's "kick his ass" line- which Willow never said. It's like Buffy's got nothing left, no one she could really talk to or understand her. Sidenote, whenever I hear Full of Grace (the song playing at the end) I always replay the end scenes of this episode. That song always makes me sad lol. Great song lol but forever breaking my heart. On the note of Spike- he's an interesting character, but in my opinion, at this point in the show he wasn't good. Whatever good he had done wasn't for the sake of being good, it was done because it was in his interest. Can't wait for you to get into season 3. I think it's the best season of Buffy personally. It's one of my absolute favourite seasons from any tv show I've watched :)