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Angel 1x20 (Extended) - War Zone (Patreon)

Published:
2021-12-24 18:00:06
Edited:
2024-07-12 13:47:40
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2026-06
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HELLO MR. GUNN IT IS SOOOO NICE TO (RE)MEET YOU!!!!!! This is going to be so exciting :) 

And I wanna take a second to say Merry Christmas Eve everybody!! I hope you all get to spend this end of the year exactly how you want to ♡ Sending good vibes and many hugs all around!

PS: This counts as day 3 of my reacting streak for christmas week so lets gooooo!

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Todd Bolton

There’s no double standard about Buffy killing vampires. Wes simply describes them as vampire killers. There was no judgment implied. Buffy, also, is a vampire killer – that may not be her title but, in fact, that is what she is. When Angel calls himself Angelus, he is trying to strike fear in the “hearts” of the vampires. There are a lot of lives at stake. It’s a negotiating tactic – and it works. I don’t think it has anything to do with how he sees himself. Or any more than usual. As he has said before (and Oz has too), the beast is always in him. On Angel calling LA his town, he did the same thing at the end of the previous episode, to Buffy: Angel: "I'm in danger every day. You came because of Faith. You were looking for vengeance." Buffy: "I have a right to it." Angel: "Not in my city." As you guessed about David Nabbit, he is introduced as a future character. But, also, he works in light of the main story. A Gunn’s crew asks, “What is he [Angel] doing in this area of town?” That case was why he was there and what precipitated his encounter with Gunn. Plus there’s the contrast between these kids and the billionaires’ life style. As Cordy says, “20 minutes ride from billionaires and crab puffs – kids going to war." Often the metaphor is what ties the stories together.

Steve Quast

GUNN!!! Fancy meeting you here! I'm sure this is one character you didn't anticipate showing up AT ALL. 😜

Steve Quast

Merry Christmas, Domi! Much love and holiday cheer! (Yes, this is me being nice to you. Don't worry. It won't happen again until next year.)

Ron Fehr

Merry Christmas Domi.

Steve Quast

Fun fact. The music that plays in the background from about 22:20 to 23:25 (when Gunn and his crew are chasing Angel) is the same that's played in Becoming Parts 1 and 2, the Buffy season 2 finale.

Ron Fehr

My guess is that Angel referred to himself as Angelus because he figured that the other vampires had heard of him, and just hearing his name was enough to scare them.

CeNedra

Merry Christmas Domi 💞😍😍

Jon Dub

I think Angel refered to himself as Angelus because the name Angelus is probably famous amongst vampires as a feared badass boss vampire, and he wanted to scare the vampire crew.

zerofk

Merry Christmas Domi!

Jordan Haddow

I just noticed that this time through.

Jordan Haddow

I'll back up the previous comments with regards to the Angelus reference. Buffy several times made reference to Angelus being distinct in the vampire world as one fo the most vicious vampires to have exist. Even the Master was a bit in awe of him. The name has over time become legend and also implies his greater age as well. It seems in the vampire world, age implies a lot with respects to your deadliness and ability to survive. We saw this a few times too, like in Buffy 2x03 when Spike shows up as a vampire is claiming to have been at the crucifixion. Spike made reference to how many times vampires seem to lie about their age as a way of intimidating other vampires. So Angel calling upon his own legend as Angelus really strikes fear into the non beating hearts of all these young vamps. Anyways, as much fun as that was, my favorite part of this episode, other than the major even of Gunn's inclusion into the Buffyverse, was Cordelia's discussion with Wes about prostituting herself with David. A lot of people get offended by the idea of Cordy contemplating becoming a prostitute, but that is not what actually happened. All of Cordy's life, she was raised to be the perfect wife to a rich and powerful man. Her early relationships all were based on what advantage they gave her and had nothing to do with love. In fact, that is why Xander threw her so hard, in my mind. Their relationship was really the first time she really viewed love as being part of a relationship. Over the years Cordy's character has grown and learned a lot from Buffy and crew. Now in this show, she's learned even more what being part of a family is really like. So, this discussion of her prostituting herself isn't actually, in my mind, her contemplating actually prostituting herself. Instead, she is feeling that old ingrained desire taught to her for so long by her parents to form a relationship with David because of all the advantages he could provide for her. Yet this desire to do as she was brought up to do is no conflicting with everything she has since learned about love, relationships, and real families. As such, the blinders so to speak, have been lifted from Cordy's eyes, and now she's acknowledging that her family had taught her her whole life to become a prostitute to a rich man. So, the reason why I like it so much is that it is such a huge turning point in Cordelia's life. She is shedding off so much of her past worldview and seeing herself in a whole new light. So, yes, David being in the show is a crucial element, not for the Gunn aspect, but for the growth of Cordelia. At least in my mind.

Steve Quast

I didn't notice until about a year or two ago. I've watched Becoming 1 and 2 so much that I would recognize its themes anywhere.

Veronika

Happy Holidays, Domi! Hope you're having a great time with your family. You finally met Gunn. I knew you would recognize him, yet you still doubted yourself...believe in yourself and your predictions because you're nailing it (most of the time :D) As for why there were the two storylines with Gunn and David Nabbit, at least why I think it was important to have them both here, was to show the contrasts between the lives of the privileged and non-priviledged and how different they are.

Ron Fehr

As I see it, the case with rich David Nabbitt was just a means to lure Angel into Gunn's neighborhood. The case itself was not the main purpose of the episode. That being said, you do have a point, Domi. It would have been nice to drag on that storyline longer than they did.

Ron Fehr

The title of the next episode males me think of another episode title, I Fall to Pieces, which was pretty much meant to be taken literally. Having the word 'blind' in the title could be intended for the same reason, or didn't you have the same feeling, Domi?

Shaun Houghton

I'm sure that if she had any feeling about it, she would have said so.