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Buffy 5x05 (Extended) - No Place Like Home (Patreon)

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2022-02-25 18:00:06
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2024-07-12 14:57:37
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2026-06
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Okay so.... We're getting some answers about lil miss imaginary sister while simultaneously creating about 500000 thousand new questions so..... Yup.

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Buffy 5x05 - Bitch... The Key To WHAT (AKA No Place Like Home) .mp4

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CeNedra

OMG I completely forgot you were posting today !! You have no idea how happy you just made me 🥰😍😍😂 Edit: I love your guesswork each week on what you think the episode will be about 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♀️

Ron Fehr

The reason for Giles's out fit when Buffy entered The Magic Box was purely for comedic effect. I liked how Buffy just stood and gawker at him. On a different subject. Buffy: "You'll be making money hand over fist." After which she puts her hand over her fist, probably wondering what the phrase means.

UTU49

I love these episodes that launch the story forward. Some other shows... DON'T HAVE THOSE. lol.

Bud Haven

I also love Buffy's outfit. This is one of my favorite episodes. I like how Buffy jumped out of the window with the monk and broke his fall with her own body. The beast, the lady in red, didn't even notice Buffy had super powers until she had been fighting her for a while. Buffy slipping back into sister mode to protect Dawn was really sweet. Buffy says to the monk in an accusatory manner, "She's not my sister". Then later with the realization of loss that "She's not my sister."

Dream Cruzer

Out for a walk.....bitch. One of my favorite Spike lines.

Ron Fehr

Well, Buffy did say five words ot less, so Spike got in as many words as he was allowed.

Jordan Haddow

I love that return to her past habit of questioning what popular saying mean. So many times we use sayings just like that and never even know what their root source is.

Jordan Haddow

I agree. Buffy and the monk jumping out the window, along with Buffy ripping a chain lock of the gate like it was a bit of dental floss really highlights how strong this beast is. Those things were effortless to her, yet the beast threw her into walls so hard she crushed cement. Also she just flat out overpowered Buffy's strength when she forced her arms down. A pretty good technic of upping the strength of the baddy without having a massive special effects budget.

Jordan Haddow

Plus, that line has been a huge meme on the internet for a long long time. So, it could be the line enjoyed most by even non-buffy fans.

Jordan Haddow

She's an innocent. She does not know that. How, in two simple statements we can have our brains rearranged from paranoia to protective. This show loves to build a perspective and forcing us to abandon it and change perspectives in the snap of a finger. This is a prime example. How can anyone see those scenes and not get the chills. So, now we know, Dawn is old. As a key, or some ball of energy, who knows how long she's been around. Still, as a human girl, we now know she's only 2 months old. Now that we know that, we can see how the show has been setting that up for the whole time. She has memories, but our brain isn't just memories and the monks appeared rushed, so they didn't seem to cover all the bases. We learn through trial and error over a long period of time to walk, move about, and also how to interact socially. So, Dawn's relative youth explains a lot about why she seems to be so clumsy and is also so socially awkward. Also, it kind of explains why Buffy's memories don't match how she feels. She will say something like how recently she's just not able to stand Dawn or the last while Dawn's really been getting on her nerves. This though could be that the monks gave her memories of what normal sisters would be like. Buffy though, like episodes like Ted and Living Conditions showed, has a sense when things aren't normal, when people aren't normal. Just how Adam was able to see through Johnathon's spell, Buffy was unconsciously seeing through it, knowing that she was an only child. The part I really love about that is, Buffy for months has felt something wasn't right about Dawn. Now she knows it. Yet, at the mention of those two lines at the top of the comment, she sluffs off that old life and accepts Dawn as her sister. It's done, she won't harm an innocent. Got to love Buffy. Love your reaction. This is probably one fo the most epic moves I've seen in TV, to add a character in with no explanation and wait 5 episodes before they even admit they did it. I have to say, I've really enjoyed how you've reacted to the whole thing.

Ron Fehr

It must just be my upbringing, but I never really had these problems with any of my siblings. And I had six. Perhaps I was an exception though, because I did see the ocassional conflict that some of my siblings had. So, it's not directly through personal experience that I can understand Buffy's and Dawn's behavior prior to this episode. But I have seen it before.

Veronika

Yup...*confusion intensifies* :D this episode was so surreal to me when I rewatched the show for the first time in its original version because I heard my native language in the beginning and was very confused if I got the dubbed version instead :D (the monks are talking in Czech if anyone was wondering...I can hear that they're not native speakers but I think they did a superb job since Czech is a very hard language to learn)

Ron Fehr

I was fortunate in that I knew right away that the monks were just speaking in a language other than English. Because I recalled something similar in season one, in the episode I Robot, You Jane.

Bud Haven

Buffy was jealous of the way Joyce was cuddling with Dawn in a way that she hadn’t with her. You always been just Buffy. She was acting out of character because the monks built their relationship. Willow has all this involuntary empathy for Dawn because it’s part of what was created. The others also have a desire to come to her defense. Everyone but Buffy.

Joseph Johnson

It is nice to have a bit more understanding of Dawn's role in the story and its nice that she isn't a threat. Well at least she isn't evil and coming after Buffy and her mom. It is still possible she is a threat given her power and what she represents considering she is an energy matrix and I doubt the beast is looking for Dawn to help her do something benevolent. One thing I have always found interesting with the episode. The monks molded Dawn flesh, and they borrowed a bit of Buffy to do so and not Joyce. If not for their ages it would be more accurate to consider Dawn as being Buffy's daughter not sister. Obviously that couldn't be because Buffy would have gotten pregnant and given birth when she was about six years old, not any way you can write that with a happy memory. That would have been some really messed up memories to create even if it is biologically possible, it is still just too creepy to consider. Back on topic, if Dawn is a part of Buffy mystically and biologically is it possible she will have some Slayer powers later on. Can't wait for the next episode, no spoilers but it is a Tara centric episode. I miss her and want to see her again.

Ron Fehr

I think Domi will be glad to know that about the next episode.

Ron Fehr

I don't know if this would be considered a spoiler, but this episode's title is quite similar to a certain Angel episode.

Robert Carroll

SMG!!! She is amazing always; to the point where we(maybe just I) take her for granted most of the time. A disservice that I need to work on. Sarah carries almost every episode on her shoulders already(very tiny shoulders btw, she's like 5'1"). I comment about the writing and directing quite often, and usually only mention the acting when it's not up to par. I will choose to use this episode to point out the acting in general, but especially Sarah Michelle Gellar. I typically don't even think about the fact that Buffy is played by an actor. She's just Buffy, but there's an amazing magic trick being performed to create that much disillusion in a TV show I've seen many times and know tons of behind the scenes information about. I never think; "that's Sarah Michelle Gellar right there", and THAT is amazing. Love this episode! Love this season! Let's go!

SK Elkins

As an only child, it mainly makes sense to me because I remember observing those exact same dynamics between some of my childhood friends and their younger siblings. Willow's the character I really identified with here: I usually got along well with my friends' younger siblings and frequently wanted to include them in the things we did, and I often had a problem fully understanding why my friends would get so angry with them.

SK Elkins

I think that Willow also has a lot of involuntary empathy for Dawn because, as she touches upon, she was herself a "spazzy" late-bloomer who was bullied and ostracized pretty much her entire life, right up until Buffy came to her high school at the beginning of the series. As someone with a similar childhood history (and, also like Willow, an only child), I remember often empathizing and identifying quite strongly with my friends' younger siblings, even finding it rather upsetting how extremely annoyed -- and, to be honest, even downright mean! -- my friends could sometimes be with them. I was always the one arguing for including the younger sibling in our activities, much to my friends' irritation.

UTU49

"I love your guesswork each week on what you think the episode will be about" Yeah, me too.

Phoenix Dawn

The ending is one of my favourite Buffy/Dawn interactions! So greatly acted by both.

Phoenix Dawn

Majority of the new shows that try to be Buffy often fail not only because the writing/worldbuilding but SMG is such a charismatic lead that displays such raw emotions! Like, it is so hard to find people like her it seems.

Phoenix Dawn

I definitely had hostile relationship with my brother even though we had a lot we shared and enjoyed together. Up until around age of 15, we would have a lot of conflicts that would escalate.

Stargazer1682

I'm playing a bit of catch-up with your reactions. People always talk about Dawn not "really" being Buffy's sister, or the memories not being "real," but I think there are a couple of caveats here that are very important. First and foremost, Dawn and Buffy clearly have a close, familial bond. The providence of that, how it came to exist, may be less conventional than most. And there's certainly some moral ambiguity of that history being forced upon them - although.... come to think of it, we don't really normally get much of a say in that with our siblings, do we.... 🤔 Whether biological or adopted, when a bond like that is formed, however it's formed, it's no less real. But I usually go out a bit further on that limb on the exact nature of what is or isn't "real" when it comes to Dawn. We're talking 14 years of not just memories, but physical, tangible items that accumulate over the course of that time - photos, report cards, stuffed animals, clothes. Since I know you've already seen the next episode, Dawn mentioned when Buffy is moving out of her dorm "some of your CDs are my CDs". These are real, physically real effects of Dawn's existence, brought into reality. Granted, it was brought about mystically, but so was the Wishverse; and that was very real. I like to speculate that, in order to achieve that kind of level of authenticity, which the monks no doubt would want to ensure the Key's protection, it would arguably have been easier to augment reality in some way similar to The Wish, whereby a newly formed human Key could be placed with the Summers at some earlier in time - when Dawn was conceived or born - and let their lives with Dawn unfold in due course naturally; rather than trying to craft every facet of that new life themselves. They would still invariably need to constrain this new reality in such a way as to line up with the present day (when the magic was invoked), to prevent discontinuity - Angel would still need to go bad when he originally did, and be re-ensouled when he was, and all of those thing in between would largely still be the same, but with Dawn apart of it in some way. But again, setting the parameters for the reality and letting it playout on its own is arguably simpler than them personally crafting it themselves wholesale, and out of thin air. Buffy's spell to see spells wasn't strictly seeing *through* a spell, but rather the variation of two realities with equal claim, but only the things that happened prior to the spell that created the new reality. If the Monks used something like a temporal fold to make this all happen, anything afterwards would be a single reality with Dawn in it. Theoretically, a photo taken that same day as Buffy's spell to see spells would have been solid, because there would be no alternate reality of that photo without Dawn. What's more, in this context, the memories and feelings are even more real, because while they might not have originally happened, they did happen *eventually*.