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In this episode, we are joined by Michael Thomas to talk about Black aesthetics and hip hop in particular. We work through what it means for hip hop to be a 'problem space' that reconstructs the cultural contradictions and political messaging of a racist society in a way that is not essentializing and that aspires to address social problems without producing easy answers. Main themes include hip hop's form, vibe, and story-telling capacity across generations.

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References:

Michael Thomas, "Singing Experience in Section.80", in Kendrick Lamar and the Making of Black Meaning, eds. Christopher M. Driscoll, Monica R. Miller, and Anthony B. Pinn (New York: Routledge, 2019)

Paul C. Taylor, "Black Reconstruction in Aesthetics", Debates in Aesthetics 15.2 (2020): 9-47

Lissa Skitolsky, Hip-Hop as Philosophical Text and Testimony: Can I Get a Witness?  (Lanham: Lexington Books, 2020)

The five of us put together a playlist for this episode!
Big K.R.I.T. feat. Devin The Dude, Curren$y, and Killa Kyleon, “Moon & Stars”
Gary Clark Jr., “This Land”
GZA feat. Method Man, “Shadowboxin’”
Kanye West, “Blood on the Leaves”
Little Simz, “Venom”
Lupe Fiasco, “WAV Files”
Makaveli, “To Live And Die in L.A.”
Mobb Deep, “Shook Ones, Pt. II”
Nas, “N.Y. State of Mind”
Nicki Minaj, “All Things Go”
Nicki Minaj, “Here I Am”
Saba feat. Day Wave, “2012”
Vince Staples, “Like It Is”
Young Money, “Lookin Ass”

Music: Vintage Memories by Schematist | schematist.bandcamp.com

Comments

Michael Badu

Good to see this seriously discussed. I got through architecture school by ditching Blackstreet/Jodeci and basically becoming the 10th member of Wu (before Cappadona). I quoted Inspectah Deck on my undergrad dissertation. I was always into Hip Hop but it became a survival mechanism when I had to encounter privately educated people for the first time. “My style broke m***f***** backs like Ken Patera” is a reference that travelled across the Atlantic at the same time WWE (formerly WWF) did. Shame we didn’t get a breakdown of Shook Ones Part II. I think that approach to Hip Hop, is perhaps the most powerful immanent critique of society. I like Houellebecq for the same reasons.

William Bell

Finally going through the music list, will have to relisten

Zarahoopstra

Really appreciated the point of how the "problems" are so deep, they must be taken up outside of "hip hop"-- but as the Schiller episode suggests, hip hop can alter the sensibilities that will be taken to these other aspects of social change. Also reminded of an embarrassing moment in my undergrad years when I met Chuck D and went on (and on) about the importance of getting existentialism to the hip hop culture 🤦‍♂️