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***Important Notice: Please note that I do not send any content or download links via email. All download links are delivered exclusively through Patreon private messages. Please check your inbox to access them.

**If you made a payment in October, you will receive the October rewards, regardless of whether you're a new member, a recurring member, or have already canceled your subscription.

Hey everyone! I'd like to clarify a few things regarding our release schedule and some upcoming changes.

Previously, download links were posted on the 15th of each month and sent again via Patreon private message after the monthly cycle ended.

Going forward, download links will no longer be posted on the 15th. Instead, they will be sent exclusively via Patreon private message once the monthly cycle has officially closed, just as in previous months.

I apologize for any confusion regarding the term "end of the month." We'll continue following this schedule for now while we finalize the adjustments.

Since Patreon doesn't offer an automated delivery system, all links have to be sent manually. I appreciate your patience and understanding.

Welcome Pack & Legacy Gift

The Welcome Pack will be updated to include a fixed selection of models, available directly through the first pinned post.

The previous rotating Welcome Pack will remain available under a new name: Legacy Gift, and will be delivered alongside the monthly releases.

Model Previews

To keep things clearer and avoid confusion about release dates, previews of upcoming models will begin at the start of each month.

Thank you all for your continued support and understanding!

Comments

Mike Holcombe

just to clarify.... the October release will be delivered to us on Nov 1st?

Grimmy Dragon

Ok, and for those of us who were charged on the 1st of October, will we need to be charged a 2nd time before we get the month's models? I get that the billing changes make things difficult for you, and Id have preferred patreon didn't force it on you, but this should have been communicated sooner.

Angel Agosto

You say at the start of each month. What exactly does that mean?!!!! I’m not happy with these confused and or mixed messaging. It’s the end of the month and no release. Are we going to expect the same next month as well.

Pedro

Since all other supporters that commented previously are confused, I'm sorry but will repeat myself. You could use the criteria "if a supporter made a payment in the current monthly cycle, they are eligible to receive the reward", and with this criteria send the reward on the 15th, on the end of the month, and in other dates in-between. Just a suggestion. One question, will the Legacy Gift continue working just like today, with 4 previous models? I like how it works now, allowing me to fill the collection. Just remember to kindly put older models (2+ years) that were not on rotation recently.

abe3d

I understand your frustration, but unfortunately, this is beyond my control. These billing changes were made by Patreon, not by me. Patreon only gives me the option to send messages to everyone who paid during October, so I need to wait until the month officially closes before I can send the links.

Pedro

Abe3D, is there the option to, at any time, send message to all members that "made a payment in the current month", instead of having to wait until the end of the month? There is at least one creator I support that checks if the members did a payment before the end of the month and send them the reward. It's worth checking if there is the option to "send a message to all users that made a payment in the current month" in the Patreon interface, or if there is need to do extra steps, like exporting a list of said members that made a payment and with that sending a message to them. If extra steps are needed, you can probably find resources for automation doing some search.

Animal

Hey Abe3D! I think there is s possible solution! You could publish the monthly STL download links in a post restricted to your paid tiers. Then, at the beginning of the following month, simply delete the old post or remove its download links and publish the new rewards.

Pedro

Hello, Muppet friend. This option would not work because it opens the possibility of a member getting the reward of two month with a single payment. There is no way to restrict access to a post for only members that made a payment on the month. For example, if a member subscribe on the 20th, they would have access to the most recent post with rewards, updated last 15th. So far so good, just like it worked on the old system. The problem is, this member will have an active subscription until the 20th of the next month, when there will be new reward on the post updated on the 15th of the next month. If your are thinking about a more complex way to control it, please elaborate it further. New solutions are always welcome, and Patreon is not really helping creators with they features.

abe3d

Those who paid in October will receive their October rewards, as in every previous month and as it has always been.

abe3d

Thanks, Pedro! That's exactly the problem with Patreon. They don't give us the tools to manage this.

Peacefuloutrage

Okay, we understand that Apple pay has messed with Patreon's billing methods. I like your work, and that's why I subscribe. I also am a working stiff who works 6 days a week and support 22 creators, with more followed. My FDM printer nozzle is clogged and I haven't cleaned the half-printed model from my resin build plate in like 2 months. I have a huge backlog. Even if I understand wanting to release the models at the end of the month, moving the preview to the following month means that you want us to pay for unknown models. I mentioned this in a DM before, but in previous months your regular posts about the model releases, next month release teasers, and NSFW upgrades all added to the professionalism and polish of the Patreon. I'm not saying this is the reality, but the perception has taken a hit. I hope everything gets solved amicably. https://www.patreon.com/PatreonforCreators/posts/reminder-all-be-170931602

abe3d

Thanks for the suggestion, Pedro! I understand your point, but the problem is that Patreon doesn't provide a simple way to automatically identify and message everyone who paid during the current month. On top of several bugs, Patreon treats new subscribers, existing members who change tiers, and other membership situations differently, making it even harder to identify eligible members using filters. The process would require additional manual work, which is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. And yes, it's unbelievable that a platform built around monthly subscriptions doesn't provide creators with basic tools to manage something like this. And yes, the Legacy Gift will continue working just like the previous Welcome Pack, with 4 previous models rotating each month. The reason for introducing a fixed Welcome Pack is that the previous one was always available to new members immediately upon joining. With the new delivery schedule, that's no longer the case, so I believe a fixed Welcome Pack is necessary to ensure new members have something available right away. The rotating selection will continue separately as the Legacy Gift.

Nathan Lindsey

The other issue I have is that we won't get any previews for the next month to decide if we want the models coming up. We're basically paying for a mystery set of models on the first day of the month then finding out what's being offered later.

abe3d

Yes, I understand your concern. Keeping the previews in the second half of October for models that won't be released until the end of November would only create more confusion. That's why I've also moved the previews to the first half of November. I understand this could be an issue for those who are charged on the 1st. One possible solution would be to cancel your subscription and rejoin after the previews are revealed, so you can decide whether you want that month's models before paying.

TheMythWright

I've submitted a ticket to Patreon and suggest you do the same. All the creators I sponsor are having issues and it's just mass chaos. I don't blame any of the creators. This is all on Patreon. They broke something that wasn't broken.

Darth'Kal

Thank you for your model , love your beautiful model and your skill. I am still confuse Of when we are going to have link. I am member for 2 month now and still I have not recived any link for October release even today already November . I will not let you down and continue support you but so confusing now .

Hollow_Fang

No worries You always been good to us with any issues so I think most of us well be understanding in kind.

Migh_T8

What about a compensation for this month? The payment cycle is up to Pateron, what you give your subscribers is up to you? Maybe a gift card to select one model in cults for 100% discount? Just for this one empty and silent month of transition.

Nolyden Studio

Thats the reson why i offer the last month and currently month for a sub on my page :) every model dl on my patreon can be downmoad until the end of the next month. :)

Darryl Dee

Ok, the way I understand it, October is already paid for so what we get today is for October. Now being billed today is for November and so on moving forward. It’s just we will get the files at the end of each month. We are not being billed twice for the October files. The way I understand it technically the files are to be released at the end of the month which will start the next billing cycle.

Animal

Hi, Pedro, yes I see you are correct!

Peacefuloutrage

From what I understand, wouldn't cancelling your paid subscription also remove me from the mailing lists as well? As mentioned previously, I have a lot of subscriptions and hear people talking about Patreon problems. I was thinking you could send weekly DMs to paid subs with the models based on billing date. Not sure what tools or automation Patreon makes available. As far as next month model confusion issues, people have to read to survive! Life skills are important! Color coding or design cues may help, but you have to train your problem customers without punishing everyone else. If my garbage man can't get to my trash bin, I can't expect him to service me properly. He doesn't have time or get paid to come into my house and collect the trash, and you shouldn't have to waste time on people who are clearly being lazy and don't want to read. Maybe a prepared form response sent to send instead of individual replies?

Topo chico de 600 ml

Hi, i joined yesterday and my billing will be the final day of the month (my next charge will me on november 30th), do i have to do something to be worried about or just wait for my rewards as always? so i guess i'll get october models today, but what about nsfw models?... we used to get them at the end of the month but now we don't have to wait for these versions

Robert Kelly

i understand that stuff changed and im not upset or anything , i was just wondering if im looking in the wrong spot for the link or did it not go out yet and how long do we have to download them? thank you very much for all your hard work

DExcel

Hello! Long time subscriber over here. In all the time I've been subscribed, I have to say I'm a happy customer. Great value for a low price, and a truly unique style in your sculptures, plus all the variety—that's why I support you, and why I completely understand and empathize with the reasons for changing the model delivery date. To be honest, I don't have any issue with that at all; it actually suits me in a way because it lines up with deliveries from my other subscriptions. What I don't agree with is having next month's model preview come out after we've already been billed. As someone already mentioned before, we're paying for something we haven't seen. I know you pointed out that we could just cancel our subscription and re-subscribe if we like the models, but that’s shifting the burden onto us, which doesn't feel fair. I understand your reasons for not releasing the models at the end of the month—you mentioned it's too much manual work for you. But asking your subscribers to do manual work instead just doesn't feel right, and we don't want the hassle of having to cancel and resubscribe every single month just to check the preview. If, as you said, posting the preview before the billing date causes confusion, that's a trade-off I'm completely willing to accept if it saves us from doing that manual work every month. If Patreon's policies force you to change your delivery schedule because it could hurt your account and is out of your hands, fine—I think most of us get that. But releasing next month's preview before the billing date is in your hands and depends entirely on you. I really hope you read and consider this. I know I'm not the only one thinking it. Thanks for everything, cheers man.

Junio Alves

I love your figures—they are absolutely beautiful, and, above all, the parts fit together perfectly. I’m quite new to the 3D world and still have a lot to learn, but I just wanted you to know that you have an admirer here in Brazil! Have you considered a solution similar to what Bulkamancer did? They created a website that aggregates their figures and uses a Patreon login (perhaps via an API) for authentication. I think it’s a clever approach, as it would provide a safeguard against any changes to Patreon’s payment structure.

Raphael

When will we get the NSFW files?

abe3d

I understand your point, but in practice, you'd simply be delaying your payment by 15–20 days. Previously, you'd see the previews during the second half of the month and pay on the 1st. Now, you'd see the previews at the beginning of the month and pay around the middle of the month. Nothing really changes except the dates. Unfortunately, this is a hassle caused by Patreon's changes, and it affects everyone.

Peacefuloutrage

I think there is a misunderstanding somewhere. I agree with you. The models are fabulous. The pricing is excellent. I empathized with him when the delivery date was changed twice (end of the month, beginning of the next month). Now it's November. Even though they weren't on the site, I had hoped that the extra content would already be in the model folders when the models were actually delivered. So far I only see one extra folder with the models. The previews are still not on the site. The extra content isn't all there yet. I've been a member over a year, but not since the beginning, so I was curious of the welcome pack. That isn't here yet. If he said that while they work on a solution, there will be a hiatus on the site, there wouldn't be any expectations to disappoint. I think he failed to properly set expectations and follow through based on the ones he set. It can be fixed, but here we are now. Just to reiterate, Abe should be happy! The reason people are engaging now is because the quality bar is so high! We just need to get it back to where it was. This is just a bump in the road.

Peacefuloutrage

Chuya Factory has also done the same thing. But hopefully there can be an easier solution that doesn't require coding and troubleshooting another website UNLESS his vision cannot be supported with Patreon. A lot of creators are from Brazil! Good morning! Bom Dia! I would like to go someday.

Rios

Maybe I’m in the minority, but I’m willing to gamble the $11/month that I’ll like at least 1 of the models that come out. Even if I don’t, I may like 2 or 3 the following month. At the end of the day, it’s only $11 to support the creator and $11 is a great deal for the amount of high quality models I get every month that I do like. So if I have to eat $11 because I don’t like any models that month, it doesn’t really bother me.

Rocco

Are we going to get a collaboration piece from 3dMoonn since they got one from you?

abe3d

Yes! I'll be announcing this month's models along with the previews soon!

Rocco

Awesome! Can't wait to see what's coming!

Peacefuloutrage

Abe and co ABSOLUTELY deserve our hard earned cash. No disagreement about that. One of my top Patreons. I understand the delayed model delivery, but shifting the previews is a solution looking for a problem. Old patrons would only have to get used to the new model delivery dates and new patrons wouldn't know any better. I'm a blue collar dude doing this for fun. I'm supporting double digit creators for $$$. I want Abe to be as successful as possible, so giving constructive feedback and trying to help him see how changes look from the customer's perspective seems like the way to go. I don't want people to cancel their subs for reasons that don't have to exist.

Peacefuloutrage

Okay, I see the new graphics! Good work. Hopefully this will reduce the confusion. Thank you for the communication. It shows when extra content and model previews will be released.

abe3d

Unfortunately, there is no satisfactory solution. There's a lot of subscription hopping, with people subscribing only in alternating months to take advantage of the system. This ultimately hurts both creators and loyal subscribers who consistently support them.

Nolyden Studio

Yeah ppl come to me november 2 to ask le to get previous month release (they think september) but i say, nope , its october 😅... thanks patreon lol