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Joker preview (Patreon)

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2019-10-15 21:40:01
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2026-06

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Andrew Carney

Wow. You're one of the few people that are pointing out that they decided to just dump over the bucket of woe. Any one of those issues could have been enough to nudge him down the road (especially since they leaned so heavy on the mental illness) where they needed to go... However, by showing literally everything that could go wrong happening, it just seemed over the top and broke down some of the writing. Curious how many of your fans will be lovers of this movie and just go crazy that you didn't think it was P E R F E C T, which, by far, it is not.

Bree

How long after a preview does Jenny usually post the full video? 1st month patron here.

Andrew Carney

Same here, I asked on twitter but didn't see a response (yet). I don't think it's too long though!

Jenny Nicholson

This one is relatively fast to edit so it'll probably only be a couple days!

Bree

Thanks for the info and the reply! Can't wait! :)

Elizabeth DeSantis Miller

i agree with all of your points so far but this movie was such a blast to watch i found myself not caring about the dumb stuff lol

Lea Chinelo

Avant garde style dancing in slow motion with spooky violin music playing in the background is exactly what I've been imagining this movie as after hearing people talk about it. I also just realised that I've never seen any promotional material for this movie, not even a trailer on Youtube. Maybe the algorithm just knows that I don't like "Trauma Conga Line" type stuff.

Lord Zer0

Joker is an establishment movie pretending to be an anti-establishment movie. Or something.

Andrew Carney

Anyone able to confirm if those were violins or cello? I'm leaning towards cello...

Bryan Sutton

I could watch an entire video of you ranting about the "going out of business" sign scenes. That sequence had the most dumbs per second of the entire movie. Why was it so hard to believe that the kids who beat Arthur up broke the sign? And I also found the way the lead kid was directing the attack to be a bit ridiculous. "Kick him! Yeah..keep kicking him" All this because they found his job to be silly? There should be better ways to show that Arthur felt alienated without making it seem like the world was going out of its way to be a dick to him.

Luis

omg can't stop laughing at the Mamma Mia Joker trailer just brilliant!!

Jenny Nicholson

Also "I'm taking that out of your paycheck" realistically how much did the sign cost. I know he's essentially living in poverty so that's not a non-issue but you'd think at that point in the conversation it would just be like, ok. Do that if you have to I guess. It escalated in such a weird way

Bryan Sutton

I guess his employer had a history of doing that. He put a lot of effort to chase down those kids while wearing those clown shoes, even putting his life on the line to run through traffic. He didn't care, he desperately needed that sign back. I should point out that I did like the movie overall. The whole sequence just had me scratching my head.

Neil Dutton

This movie has big sobbing baby elephant energy. I'm not a fan of Phoenix in a way that I cant justify at all so I'm glad youre reviewing it!

Shaun Ryer

Hell yeahhh so happy I became a patron.

The Doom Merchant

LMAO BUT REALLY THOUGH, MERYL STREEP AS EVERY DC CHARACTER WHEN

Luis

I enjoyed Joker as well but when I go to the movies I just turn off my brain and take whatever Hollywood throws at me. That's why I love Jenny's reviews and fresh perspectives they help me be a better moviegoer.

Peter

The dancing segments are a very small portion of the movie. I think they were unnecessary though.

Peter

I'm guessing for Arthur it was less the cost of the sign that bothered him but the fact that he got jumped and his boss had no sympathy or trust in him.

Steve Ray

The random dancing was probably organic to the character, since both schizophrenia *and* antipsychotic meds can cause jitters and tics.

Steve Ray

At that point, Arthur was still committed to making it as a productive citizen, just like he'd been bringing his A-game to succeeding in stand-up comedy.

Steve Ray

FACTOID: Some retailers only *pretend* to be going out of business, so the customers get greedy and careless because "everything's 90% off." One store even incorporated itself as "Going Out Of Business," but the FTC said that was too deceptive and made them change their name (and their sign).

Steve Ray

NOTION: Maybe the clown boss was just lying so he could pocket some or all of Arthur's wages, because what judge is going to believe a certified nutcase over the word of his hardworking manager? It's practically free money, if you don't mind cheating sick people.

Elliot Aitken

🎶 cause you had a bad day 🎶

Jonathan Soper

This is why I love Jenny - she finds and elucidates all of these details that I recognized momentarily during the movie but which my small brain quickly papered over because it was easily distracted by clowns and riots and little people (I hope this is the currently-acceptable nomenclature) with delightful accents.

Lea Chinelo

Oh sure, I ment it more as a metaphor for the overarching mood of the film; I should have been more clear about that, sorry. Ticks are just something that people have, they don't automaticly require a sad soundtrack. Since the movie seems to put this character through as many horrible things as possible, it just feels very on the nose to me.

KHL

I liked it overall but as Jenny mentioned, I feel a greater sense of lost potential. I was intrigued when it didn’t make Joker all that charismatic or intelligent and showed what lies at the heart of such criminals - a very disturbed individual. That the story then has to be forced into the Batman mythos and shallowly turn him into that crazy clown we all love and hate seems like a bit of a let down, when they could have taken things in more interesting and mature directions.

SamichMachine

this feels like the white boy/incel's avatar tbh? like. it wasnt bad. it wasnt great. it was kinda pretty. we're all gonna forget about it in a year bc it was boring

Daniel Stephan

I personally disagree about the dancing scenes. I think they’re spread out perfectly throughout the film to where they aren’t boring and aren’t without meaning. Each time you see Arthur dancing represents a completely different emotion being displayed by the character. From trying to act confident in his home, to the first time he actually feels power/control of his life in the park bathroom, to the complete transformation to Joker towards the end on the staircase, which is also a great contrast to the first shot we see him walk up those stairs. Just my opinion though

Steve Ray

The film Joker gives us no reason to think or believe that it has any position or POV on romance or rejection. So if you think Joker (2019) feels like "white boy/incel" cinema, then you probably sense their subtle influence everywhere you go.

Samantha

Any idea the track title from the soundtrack? Haven't seen the movie yet, but music's my thing.

Didge Ridoo

Thank you for watching this movie so I don't have to

Steve Ray

In the future, Joker will be a midnight movie, like the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Everyone will dress up in their fancy suits and dance up and down the aisles, or they will wear camisols del T del Chapulin Colorado and steal the dancers' home-made signs.