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You may have noticed that sports betting apps have taken over the world in just a few short years. Blame the Supreme Court.

Thank you to our subscribers. Because of you, we can point out how the Supreme Court wings it sometimes, and we all have to live with those consequences.

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5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.

Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On BlueSky, find Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social, Michael @fleerultra.bsky.social, and Rhiannon @aywarhiannon.bsky.social.

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Roflmaocopter

Rhiannon spot on with the prediction.

Cat

It’s reassuring to hear that someone else outside my household goes blind with rage during the ads these days. They genuinely make me question my sanity sometimes

Haley Kessler

At the beginning of 2024, all of my usual podcasts/YouTubers did the sort of usual "Happy New Year" greetings and it felt so bad and strange to me, and y'all were the only ones to kick off your first podcast with the right sentiment; I think you made a joke about 2024 being "the last year." So making me feel a little bit less insane has been your beat for a while, and I appreciate it so much.

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

In your professional legal opinions, could we effectively nullify the supreme court if congress simply appended "no takesies-backsies" to the end of every law they passed? I'll take my answer off the air.

Leah Carey

Loved the predictions - don’t think anyone could have predicted GWB would be the one who looked like he was on drugs. And that the weird pose would be a Nazi salute 🤢

Kate R

I love to get some kind of explanation for this. Sports betting was something I *hated* growing up in Ireland, so I was really dismayed to see it here.

Katie P

Hearing someone else complain about the matthew mcconaughey ai ad makes me feel so seen.

Caylia Bender

Yes Peter, what you said at the end. Your voices are such comfort, I was excited to listen and possibly feel a tiny bit more grounded after yesterday. I just need smart people I trust to say Nazis are bad out loud.

Cassie Ambler

On the topic of freaky commercials - I keep getting ads for Amazon medical + pharmacy services. Makes me shudder every time

Janusz Ostrycharz

My auntie in Melbourne blew a tiny fortune on the ponies late last century. Obvious that expanding that shit any further is $better$ for clean-up crews than for ri$ktakers.

Kate R

My brain is fried and read that as "peonies". I was like "wow, betting in Aus is *different*" and I would have completely believed it.

Erin King

It was so interesting listening to this as an Australian where sports betting has been so pervasive for pretty much my entire adult life, with about 10 different apps being advertised during every ad break of every sport… I think what you call a “parlay” we call a multi, so you get heaps of blokes complaining that they only missed one leg of their multi because they picked the wrong player for first goal or some shit.

Cassie LaGrange

There was a dunkin commercial in the summer that was just pink, yellow, and orange flashing colors and the product and it always made me feel like I was in an apocalyptic movie or something

James Talley

Enshittification: my streaming services never used to blast me with commercials. And every time I see a Fan Duel ad, I want to scream, "I not only don't gamble, I don't even watch sports!"

sfin

“A bunch of stupid ghouls at the helm of everything”. Nailed it

Camden Luxford

It is so grim. Stupid ghouls at the helm, and then they plaster AI over every goddamn thing. Just let me live, please, I’m begging you 😭

Andrea Cleary

"A viral clip of some weird poses" is pretty much spot on

Liz

So close with the Elon handshake prediction.. he did do something weird with his hand though

Jess C

I do feel less insane ☺️

Rebeccuh

Tv ads all feel like ads made for Instagram or streaming tv. Like kinda cheap and nonsensical “but it’s ok because most people won’t see them” except they escaped and are running loose on broadcast. It sucks real bad.

Jeffrey Beauvais

Not only are the lines between players and betting companies blurring, but the fact that ESPN now has their own betting app is wild. To provide a venue for sports betting and advertise betting options using the same on air personalities that provide analysis of fantasy performance, predict the score of games, and routinely comment on the facets of sports betting is definitionally crooked.

Lindsay Willett

Just as an FYI, Northanger Abbey contains one of the earliest written records of baseball being played, and it was written in 1804 (although published posthumously in 1818). TJ very well could be interested in betting on baseball via FanDuel.

Michelle Ort

I had therapy on Tuesday after the inauguration and told my therapist "I'm just waiting for 5-4 to tell me what it all actually means"

rebecca montano

It's called enshittification, per Cory Doctorow. It's a real degradation of the Internet specifically but also all kinds of customer experiences.

Jimmy McMillan

It seems like capitalism is running out of stuff to invest in so they're legalizing everything to make it an investment opportunity. Weed's being legalized everywhere as well as sports gambling. I don't think either of these should be criminalized but the way they're being legalized is a symptom of cultural rot. I wouldn't be shocked if in the future we had many states with legalized corporate sex work