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Authoritarian Creep(s) [SUBSCRIBER-ONLY] (Patreon)

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2025-04-01 08:00:09
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The Trump administration has moved at breakneck speed to suppress free speech, mass deport hundreds of individuals without due process, and

The Trump administration has moved at breakneck speed to suppress free speech, mass deport hundreds of individuals without due process, and target judges who dare cross him – moves straight out of an authoritarian playbook.

Thank you to our subscribers! It's nice to have friends with us as we barrel towards authoritarianism.

5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.

Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On BlueSky, find Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social, Michael @fleerultra.bsky.social, and Rhiannon @aywarhiannon.bsky.social.

Comments

Jack Georgeou

Thank you guys for being a voice of reason and compassion in these harrowing times.

Genevieve R

April fools!..... i wish

Symone West

I'm less than 15 minutes in and this is fucking harrowing. I really want to help but I don't know how.

Brianna

Appeasement didn’t work for hitler

Nina VanHeeswijk

i know that these jackasses' only consistency is their cruelty, but thiel sneeringly calling shit he doesn't like "the cathedral" is so funny to me. like, man, aren't you THE hardcore catholic? last i checked, cathedrals are, like, their entire thing!

Dana Rockey

You guys are our lawyer besties, we don’t give a fuck if it’s Supreme Court tea or not. Holler into the mic at us about whatever you want!

Laura Clowder

Thank you for balancing the horrors of the current moment with historical context and hope for the future. This is heartbreaking and radicalizing.

Martha Gershun

Bravo Rhiannon. No one has ever or can ever say it better

How may wills will Will Smith smith if Will Smith will smith wills

For the first time ever I disagree with Peter who is usually right about everything (as are Rhi and Michael). I have known since elementary school that we are a soft, cowardly nation of pussies. What might save us is the fact that those effecting our downfall are also pussies.

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Thank so much for this episode!

Morgan Garcia

THANK YOU ALL so much. I was recently laid off by an organization that lost essentially all its funding over the USAID dismantling. Rather than join any lawsuits or stand up against it, they asked us to remove pronouns from email signatures and furloughed most of the staff. Lo and behold, they are likely to go under. How on earth these idiotic cowards don’t understand that you can’t appease fascists… it’s beyond me. THANK YOU for being loud and clear like this; at least I feel less like I am losing my mind.

Erin

I recently shared the “what to do if ice comes to your workplace” references y’all posted a few months ago with gratitude students at UNC. I’ve had friends reach out to say how grateful they are to have those resources and I want to pass their gratitude along to you. Thank you. Sincerely. It’s given us confidence in our ability to protect the international friends, classmates, and the undergraduates we guide as teaching assistants and researchers.

Guinevere Sims

I refuse to let these sick, dumbass motherfuckers beat us. I’m glad there are friends (it’s not parasocial!) who feel the same.

Mariko kamiya

When you referenced Japanese internment you said it applied to "foreign nationals" and I just wanted to point out that it also included citizens of Japanese descent.

lily h

the house committee on the CCP just sent a letter to carnegie mellon and a couple other universities asking for personal information on chinese international students claiming they pose “national security risks”

Scott Bell

When Peter mentioned that he was on another podcast I was like, "He is? let me look that up!" I just want to let you know that if you google, "Peter from 5-4" you only get references to the New Testament passage categorized as 1 Peter 5:4 which reads, "And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away." I was able to eventually figure out his last name is Shamshiri and the Podcast is If Books Could Kill. It's just a funny story, not asking for help.

Rachel Cumbee

... It's like watching a documentary about how the Holocaust happened. Absolutely horrifying.

Cara

I felt Rhiannon's "bye" in my soul.

Ari

Thank you all for this fantastic episode. As always, free Palestine

Carri drake

Thank you for being brave and speaking out!!!

thiccclizzy

The prison stuff made me physically ill. This is horrific. And I feel so powerless

Sara Collins

I’m so appreciative of this episode for the way it distills the paralyzing volume and horror of recent events. It’d be amazing if you could consider making this available to non-subscribers, primarily because the information is so important and digestible (I want to share it with *everyone*), but I also believe it would massively drive new subs, which I’d continue to personally promote. Thanks for the insanely important work you all do.

Karim
>>169906599

I agree. This episode is so clarifying and powerful. It really helped me appreciate how the ICE arrests of student activists and Venezuelans "gang members" are part of the same project. I hope you will consider making this episode public.

Gwynedh Van Allan
>>169664321

Check out In Bed With The Right - they are doing a month by month parallel history of 1939 Germany. Adrian (one of the hosts) is German and wonderful and the detail they are giving is really excellent. And obviously a bummer too. But useful. Especially with the 5-4 info too.

Meg E

Thank you for this, it is both terrifying and affirming. If you can consider making it a mainfeed episode at some point, my parents need to hear it

MLJ

Just adding my thanks for confirming reality. A terrible sense of cognitive dissonance when I’m out in the world and so many aren’t aware of what’s going on. This made me feel less alone and more empowered to keep hold of my moral courage

Willie Basler

Was driving while listening and missed that Chuck Shumer was the one speaking in that quote. I genuinely thought it must have been a republican speaking and was flabbergasted to hear it one of the top democrats. What a chode.

PJ

A Rhiannon-run podcast about current US Gov. shenanigans updates w/ actionable steps Would be SO. GOOD. I’d listen to every single episode I’d eat that shit UP

Erin Peterschick

Can you please make this one publicly shareable?! Everyone needs to hear this.

Dr Gillian Loomes-Quinn

Hi everyone - I'm listening from the UK and would be grateful if people could give me recommendations for grassroots activist organisations who are fighting back. Particularly concerned with the human rights of disabled people (not just per se, but those who are also immigrants, political prisoners, abused etc etc...). But I'll obviously take any recommendations of people doing Good Things who I can support financially from over here. In solidarity.

D G

So... When does the revolution start?