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Heated Rivalry S1E4 - "Rose" - UNCUT (Patreon)

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2026-01-25 19:20:33
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2026-01-26 06:35:39
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At this point this show too is proving to be a little TOO good 😭 I don't know if my heart can handle any more heartbreak at this point. So proud of everyone involved in this production!

Link 1 (Google Drive): https://drive.google.com/file/d/16nMobyP72Fv6aUt94e8sWlys5WxzgYY2/view?usp=drive_link

Link 2 (Dropbox): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ctvbn9rr9os8w5p30387m/HR-S1E4.mp4?rlkey=it7125vu3c9nxu0me56a1bfds&st=5yqdwklj&dl=0

Question Time Link 1: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RyMX6mHZIxMRxhfnYWAavA0kmm9ZIXrm/view?usp=drive_link

Question Time Link 2: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xog4i4orkthvw58t8geyz/HR-S1E4-QT.mp4?rlkey=uusuarve5w8y8hu87nq13gamu&st=lfhzczkc&dl=0Google Drive Tip: It takes time for Google Drive to process videos. If it says "still processing" or is only allowing you to view at 360p, then you can always come back later or download the video in fullDropbox Tip: The quality of the video is lower while streaming so I recommend downloading or using google drive if thats an issue

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K

Fun fact: Hudson (Shane’s actor) used to work in a restaurant in my area and someone found a google review where someone said their waiter Hudson was so attractive he should look into modelling 😭

Belly

on the couch when they were being intimate, it was the first time they called each other by their first names. that’s why shane ran away. cuz he was scared of his feelings for ilya.

Kate A

"Big slay?" will now be the only way I ask if something good happened while watching sports. So excited for some cozy Sunday time watching this reaction!

Jaxx Cordd

Shane had his freak-out because Ilya was changing the rules of the relationship, and the first name drop in their frot scene made it too intimate

Sabine

I think everyone of us was yelling at you through their screens when you missed Ilya calling Shane by his first name for the first time - or was that just me? 😄

Harry Allen

Dont worry, someone let me know in question time and I was PISSED 🤣

Harry Allen

Stop. I used to say it ironically with my friends bit its slowly become a CEMENTED part of my daily vocabulary 🤣

Sabine

It's gonna be fun to watch that 😄

Ashley Phelps

I love how you clocked the ginger ale as a safe food of Shane's, did you notice that while also a safe food, the ginger ale is a metaphor for what Shane needs, Hayden his best friend says something about keeping his house stocked with ginger ale, Ilya gives it to him NO QUESTION has it ready to go, asks if it's cold enough..... But then he goes to the restaurant with his parents and they don't have ginger ale, he goes to the bar he meets rose at and asks the bartender if they have ginger ale and gets judged for it "I mean we do but ....." So he just orders a beer..... Literally just his best friend and Ilya give him what he needs it's just such a great detail

Sabine

Love the fact that you explicitly mention both the Russian as well as the queer aspect of All The Things She Said. I've watched a lot of reactors and this is the first time I've actually heard someone say it. For someone like me who was around 18 when the song came out and who saw how it was received at the time, it jumped out at me straight away when I watched the episode for the first time

Emily Brown

Loved your reaction! I will now have to contain myself while I wait for you to watch Epi 5 🤭. Glad you are as invested as we are!! Also! The soundtrack is all Canadian EXCEPT tatu who is Russian. The entire creative team was really firing on all cylinders with this show

Mickey Ross

i forgot you were only on ep 4, i cant wait til you get to 5 and 6 😭

Whitney

I think your commentary that outlines the multiple reasons why Shane ran away is spot on. They had this intimate moment but just earlier Ilya was talking about Svetlana, girls, finding someone else. Shane was confused - as we all were. If Shane would have stayed and only freaked out internally, I don’t think much about his dynamic with Ilya would have changed. My evidence is that Ilya didn’t try to get Shane to stay very hard because that would have required Ilya to communicate and be vulnerable.

Maria Hiendl

I think the communication thing is also a cultural thing. Canada and the US have a low context communication style, while Russia has a really high context communication style. (the cultrue map, 2014, Erin Meyer) UK and Germany (are slightly higher than Canada and the US) High context is defined as "messages are both spoken and read between the lines, massages are often implied but not plainly expressed" (page 39) I am excited for question time and for episode 5 and 6 ( both are one of the best episodes of all time - not just according to my but imdb)

Daylet

Not sure how much you’re interested in hockey culture…but their view around relationships and settling down is quite unique. Probably on par with a military family. Rachel (the writer of the books) made of point in showcasing that with Hayden (and his 4 kids haha). I say all that because, it’s a factor as to why Shane would try with a woman now. Shane has known hockey since he could walk. Started playing it since he could fit in skates (usually 4 y/o). So it’s all he’s known and being an elite player requires full focus and romantic pursuits tends to follow a pretty prescribe fashion for players like that. Shane and Ilya’s arrangement allowed them the safety to explore that desire without the pressure of settling down, but now they are 25 and people start to wonder yk.

ondraya

Don't know if its an error on my end, but the video seems to cut out right before you read the questions, is there a chance that part can be uploaded?

Charlotte Webb

Hudson Williams has basically become a sex symbol at this point. It’s comically absurd to try and claim he’s unattractive. And most of the “he’s unattractive” discourse I have seen has been non-subtly racist, so I can’t say that input is worth anything.

Harry Allen

I wanted to get the reaction out ASAP due to having the 911's to get out as well, so i left the question time edit until later on. It is just finishing up rendering now though, so should be added on to the post in around 20 mins!! Also just to let you know as its confusing on this app lol, there is a chat in the messages section called 'Channel Updates' that I use more than anything to give lil updates on things. Just incase you ever want a quick answer as its usually in there, tis also easier for me to see questions due to how patreon notifs work on my end 🧡

Harry Allen

Even in the world we live, I often forget how racist some people can be, especially OPENLY 🙄 they all need to go into their little holes and stay there till they learn to be decent humans

Kristin

Jennifer Lawerence?! DAMN I’m impressed 👏

Rowan

Can concur with another commenter that the video cuts off just before question time on both Google Drive and Dropbox. Great commentary as always! Eagerly awaiting the final two episodes. :)

Harry Allen

There are two links I added just below that will take you to the QT!! Added them later but should show up for you now

Maria Hiendl

Yes you were right. I was quite impressed as well

Noora

Your reactions are my favorite so far! <3

Kris

Before Rose, Shane believed he just hadn't met the right girl yet. Now, both his desperation to live a heteronormative life, and the intensity of the deep level of comfort he feels with her has him misinterpreting a strong platonic connection for romantic love.

Kris

I adore Shane, but I feel so badly for Ilya in this episode. His actions throughout the years clearly show the depth of his affection for Shane. He has consistently pursued Shane—setting up the commercial just to see him, pushing for the hotel room number, and being the first to add contact information. The three-year wait for sexual intimacy (intercourse) underscores his respect and patience. This episode highlights a significant shift in Ilya’s trajectory, causing his internal perspective to evolve. However, he remains a deeply misunderstood figure, with his true intentions often lost in translation. For example... Ilya's Accepting His Feelings: The opening montage shows Ilya's journey into finally accepting his feelings for Shane. Instead of hooking up at the bar, he's waiting for Shane's next text message. His most recent actions, like preparing his home for Shane to stay (by purchasing the ginger ale) in advance, were intentional gestures of care. Couch Scene: When Ilya discusses women, many assume he is simply trying to provoke jealousy in Shane. However, this interpretation overlooks a key aspect: Ilya is unaware of Shane's feelings for him and wouldn't assume Shane would be jealous. In reality, Ilya is opening up about his own sexuality in the hopes that Shane would do the same. Ilya is genuinely both curious and concerned about whether or not Shane is interested in women, and if so, whether he would ever have a chance with him. Ilya finally shows vulnerability and opens up for Shane to walk out, and proceeds to have a VERY public relationship with a woman. It's heartbreaking. Shane hasn't accepted his sexuality yet. His retreat, triggered by the use of first names (I wasn't sure whether or not you heard Ilya call Shane by his first name instead of Hollander for the first time), intensified the "realness" of the moment. This suggests, to me, that Shane was never ready for an emotional commitment, regardless of his perceived desires. Ilya's Jealousy of Rose: Technically, Ilya has no right to be jealous, but he’s grieving a profound loss of hope. Shane knew, per his conversation with Ilya on the couch, that Svetlana was merely a 'no-strings attached-friend with benefits' situation. Whereas, for Ilya, Rose represents a public, sanctioned partnership that cements the impossibility of the future Ilya actually wanted with Shane. Club Scene: People judge Ilya for trying to make Shane jealous at the club without even acknowledging what led to it. He went completely out of his comfort zone for Shane: By inviting him to his home (not a hotel room), asking him to spend the night (which neither of them have ever done), pre-stocking the ginger ale (because it's Shane's favorite), opening up about his sexual history (in an attempt to make Shane feel safe doing the same) Ilya was being uncharacteristically vulnerable. All for Shane to literally walk out on him. Feeling personally rejected and watching Shane move on so publicly, especially with a woman, was a massive blow. His actions at the club weren't just 'petty'; they were the reaction of someone who had been deeply hurt.

Kris

I'm really glad you try to keep an open mind when it comes to Ilya. I feel like he is constantly judged more harshly, even though he is operating from a place of less privilege and greater danger. While Shane is frequently coddled despite his immense privilege (supportive family, safe country). We see this clearly in Episode 2. Ilya is often criticized for how he reacted after saying 'not now' in the Russia Figure Skating Scene; however, the fact that Shane did the same thing both in the Commercial Shower Scene and the Vegas Rooftop Scene is ignored. The difference is that Ilya respected Shane's boundaries; Shane did not pay that forward, which led to it further escalating. I think it may also be a little unfair to Ilya that the show has sanitized Shane’s character by making him far more 'celibate' or monogamous; whereas, the book highlights that while Shane was in the 'situationship' with Ilya, he continued having sexual relationships with both men and women.

Kris

They are both extremely beautiful men! In fact, I tend to get quite confused with myself... I think that Ilya Rozanov is more attractive than Shane Hollander, however I also think that Hudson Williams is more attractive than Connor Storrie 🤔

Elina

I love your reactions to this show so much!

Kris

While this series is built on subtext, this episode is a masterclass in it. It’s the perfect example of how the silent, unspoken truths can be deafening—far louder than the actual dialogue. Actions quite literally beat louder than words. Location: Ilya’s decision to move their tryst from a neutral hotel to his personal home is a massive psychological shift. By stocking Shane’s favorite ginger ale and cooking for him, he transitioned from a "hookup" to a "host," signaling a desire for domesticity. The Sex: This show, especially with Shane and Ilya, substitutes words that they are too afraid to say with physical intimacy. The sexual encounters in this episode, both in bed and on the couch, are extremely well-lit and intimate; they are considered in the "light of day," which represents total exposure. This is very different from their usual sexual encounters and experiences with one another. This level of visibility is especially terrifying for Shane, who relies on the darkness and anonymity of hotel rooms to compartmentalize his sexuality. The Names: The use of last names is a defense mechanism for both. When Ilya drops the shield and uses Shane’s first name, in a sense, he is asking for a real relationship. Shane’s flight is a "fight or flight" response to the threat of being truly known. Shane has spent years longing for a deeper connection with Ilya, but the moment they got there, Shane felt exposed, and it terrified him.

Kris

As long as Ilya kept him at arm’s length, Shane could safely indulge in the fantasy of wanting him. But hearing his first name—uttered with such intimacy—stripped away his defenses. Ilya wasn't just drawing him close; he was turning Shane's unspoken desires into a devastating reality, making the consequences of a queer life impossible to ignore. Panic eclipsed desire, and Shane’s only instinct was to run.

Kate A

OK FINE I'll go reheat the entire series with this chart in my hand :D

Kris

I love that you mentioned that one of the great things about this show is that it doesn't treat the audience like we're stupid. Here is a link to a great article that talks about this and other ways that Heated Rivalry destroys the 'worst trends in streaming' https://www.slashfilm.com/2043077/canada-heated-rivalry-destroys-worst-trend-american-streaming-tv/ It discusses how Heated Rivalrg: *Refuses to 'dumb down' it's screenplay *Doesn't cater to audiences with "casual viewing" habits *Trusts its audience to pay attention to "what they don't say" subtle cues & micro-expressions *Contrasts the "creative bankrupt approach" of most streaming platforms.

j-l

shane and ilya are a nightmare combo when it comes to communication bless them😭 shane being autistic and needing clear communication and ilya being emotionally repressed bc of growing up in russia in an abusive household... just a recipe for disaster. not to mention the cultural differences and the language barrier. i saw someone point out that the things one of them is comfortable with is the other persons trigger. ilya is very comfortable in his sexuality and tries to connect with shane in this episode by trying to figure out what shane likes, but it causes shane to get defensive and freak out. shane has grown up in a loving home and tries to get to know ilya by asking about his family, but that causes ilya to put his walls up. so they accidentally push each others trigger points which causes the other person to retreat :(

Kristin

You absolutely nailed it! Bravo!

IAmom

Hudson Williams is so effing sexy - his personality is (bite lip emoji) Just came to say that ;)

a s

tbh I wish book readers would stop assuming the book is canon to the show. Nothing in the show has ever indicated that Shane has hooked up with other men. And based in his characterization, especially what we learn in episode 5, I don’t find it believable that Shane in the show would risk hooking up with a man he doesn’t know / trust, because he’d be scared of being recognized and outed. I don’t think the director or actors have ever confirmed that Shane had off-camera hookups. If it was canon to the show it wouldn’t make sense to never show nor mention it on screen. I agree with your point that the couch miscommunication wasn’t due to language barrier. Really it was due to emotional intelligence barrier. Ilya speaks from a place of self-preservation. If he says outright what he wants from Shane then he could be rejected, so instead he tries to play 4d chess with his words.

Kristin Crighton

They are the worst for communications, poor. babies. Ilya was definitely trying to pry about Shane's sexuality and letting him know that he's not interested in anyone else. However he absolutely did it in a way that Shane would never be able to understand. I'm not sure if you mentioned but did you hear at the end of their last hookup Ilya called him by his first name and Shane responded in kind. That's when Shane started to freak out.