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A three parter in a 10 episode season is a BOLD move! Still not 100% sure on how I see the Hen storyline, but it was interesting af nonetheless!!

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Daylet

As an EMT here I can speak on Hen’s duty of care on scene…she did not follow protocol. Yes, a patient can refuse care but after a trauma, especially if you suspect intoxication or altered mental status of some kind, you have to establish alertness and orientation at the very least. We refer to it as a patient being AOx3 (sometimes 4): is the patient awake and alert? Are they oriented to person, place, time, event? Once those are established you can decide if the patient can give informed consent for treatment. If not, you are well within your right to intervene on the patients behalf. Hen do not fully evaluate, neither did anyone else, and the patient did not sign a refusal of care after explaining to him the risks of denying, that we saw. That saves you from liability. So yeah, she was in the wrong. Fully. Doesn’t matter what the patient did. We don’t play God.

Daylet

Also, I do like that they chose Hen for this storyline because you’d never expect it from her but it happens more often to the most seasoned of EMT’s/Medics. Sometimes you see such horrible sides of humanity it’s hard to separate the good you do from the 2nd chances you give to those who caused such pain. Part of the job is reconciling that and we saw that a bit last season with Ravi when he delayed his return to the 118 after saving the father who drove his family off a pier.

Nyssa Rawther 🍉🔻

I was actually wondering about that so it's cool that you gave your perspective on it. Cuz that guy was full on aggressive with Chimney just for trying to evaluate him. I did wonder if there was maybe something he needed to sign to state he's the one refusing any type of care because there doesn't seem much that any of them could have done with him being so aggro. Unless we're gonna pin him down to check him, which probably would have done more harm than good

Daylet

I mean we’ve sedated people for it if they can’t consent and are aggressive. A couple of months ago I got my arm broken by a guy that was deeply intoxicated and we needed to restrain him physically before we could chemically restrain him. Cops weren’t super helpful because we are trained to restrain while making sure the patient is still safe (guarding airway, breathing, and circulation). When you need to intercede on behalf of a patient all that needs to be documented and often times it gets ran up to the supervisor on duty to make the call. This call in particular is a little more complicated to establish competency (my guy couldn’t even string words together), which is why in a normal world, you’d have first responders ask AO questions first (wether there was alcohol on his breath or not). Patient was still involved in a trauma. But also this is TV and all of that takes time haha

Nyssa Rawther 🍉🔻

Oh wow! So it IS the correct thing to physically restrain someone like that. Damn, and you broke your arm!?!? Hope there's some good workplace incident compensation that comes from that 😬

Daylet

There are multiple things that we consider before taking away someone’s agency because it is a serious thing. An individual not being able to protect their own airway, acting out, and have no one else willing to take responsibility for them on scene, would warrant “overriding” their rights. With Hens patient, he was a danger to himself and potentially others and no one on scene (other than first responders) would take responsibility for him. The correct protocol would be to escalate communication and with help of PD restraint as necessary. (They could’ve also tried a lot of deescalating techniques including having PD drive him to the hospital) My patient was built like an MMA fighter and I just got caught in the crosshairs. He didn’t know what he was doing.