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Maribel Humble

Several quotes from this episode highlights essential details of the story: In this episode's intro, the man asks Damon, “ You that serial killer, aren't you? The Son of Sam? Damon tells him, “ son of Giuseppe but close enough.”. Damon compares his father as terrifying as New Yorkers felt during the reign of that serial killer who terrorized the city from July 1976 to August 10, 1977. I like the piece of history that Pro. Shane told Bonnie that she was a descendant of Qetsiyah, one of the most powerful witches of all time. Lexi: “ What traumatic event was too much for Damon Salvatore to handle? If someone talks to me with all that sarcasm and judgment without even trying to know me, my fist will meet their face‼️. If Lexi wanted to help Damon, she would have listened and shown compassion, but she showed none, which is why Damon didn't attempt to open up to Lexi. She uses the same platitude to focus on the good things but omit the dark side that everyone has. How can anyone open up to someone like Lexi about our darkness if she doesn't tap into her dark side? Did anyone notice when Lexi said Mystic Falls heard about Damon’s feeding frenzy in NYC? Damon’s facial expression shows a glimpse of hope that his brother heard about him. Still, when Lexi said Stefan sent her, Damon got angry and sarcastic. Damon wanted to see his brother instead of Lexi. Profound comment from Klaus: “Don't underestimate the allure of darkness, Stefan. Even the purest hearts are drawn to it.” I believe darkness is also attracted to light. It works both ways, the allure between dark and light. In the case of TVD, the attraction between the two is that darkness still retains a glimpse of light, and the light a glimpse of darkness, as in the case between Damon and Elena. Some fans claim that Damon only changed because of Elena, but Damon had good in him; Elena helped him find it again.

Elizabeth Gates

Based on this episode, I would be really interested in your reactions to the show Hannibal.

Patpet

I absolutely adore the opening of the episode, it's a piece of genius, "you are that serial killer the son of Sam...." " No the son of Giuseppe...but close enough" while the Talking Heads song is playing "...psycho killer qu'est-ce que c'est?..." I don't know who among the writers though about this but whoever it was, he or she has a truly wicked, first rate dark (in the best way) sense of humour. David Berkowitz called "The son of Sam" was a real serial killer, terrorising New York in 1977. The idea of incorporating Damon story going around with his humanity off killing people at the same time of this real event happened; it's a stroke of genius. This episode is another important one. Now you know the entire Damon and Lexi story, well almost....there is another important piece of information missing, why Damon had his humanity off? What happen to him so traumatic that to cope with it he had to turn the switch off? And what happened to him was the reason why he came into town in the present day (first season) with his humanity on a dimmer switch. So he spent good 30/ 40 years maybe more with his humanity off. His story with Lexi is more complex. We saw already that she is the reasons why the two brothers were apart all those years, plus now we add that when Damon had his humanity off and needed help, Lexi showed up, not Stefan and apply her draconian methods on Damon and no surprised didn’t worked. Why should have worked? She is the reasons Damon had to leave his brother behind in the 40s’ and she is the one showing up instead of Stefan. Damon needed his brother, not Lexi. She had good intentions but why she didn’t investigate on why he switched his humanity off, instead of threat him with contempt and self-righteousness? Lexi methods even though they come from a good intention place are not good at all, especially with Damon. With Damon and Lexi, is not just that she is a reminder of the period he had his humanity off, the fact that she kept him apart from his brother, that she, not Stefan showed up to help him, and that she tortured him psychologically at the point he had to get rid of her for good doing something unforgivable to her eyes. When Damon killed her in season one he had his humanity still on a dimmer switch, so he care very little for her, she was remainder of a period he didn’t wanted to remember, and she was the reason of a lots of resentments between the brothers. So getting rid of her was in his dim switch humanity off set of mind, a good opportunity to get rid of two problems at once, getting the town off their back and get rid of any possible obstacle to get close to Stefan once again, without any interference. Oh boy, Damon in the 70’s with that haircut and the eyeliner is pretty impossible to resist. I have no idea how Ian does it, but can he manage to have chemistry with just about everybody, I've never seen that happening with any other actor. Now the triangle is complete and because of that Silas don’t need to mind control Bonnie, so she know can remember, and go back to be herself. The problem is that Silas can take control of people’s mind making them seem him as familiar people, nobody know how Silas really looks like. So let’s see how things develop, with Silas and with “Thelma and Louise” taking Damon’s car and running away looking for Katherine.

Patpet

By the way I've always imagine a crossover of Vapires universes, because Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer was too in NY in the 70s'. I can imagine Spike and Damon hunging out they would be such a cool gang.

PRIYA AMY

The more I rewatch TVD, the more the luster surrounding Lexi's character dims if I'm being honest. I do think her intentions have been honorable, but she is the main reason why the brothers were estranged for 150 years. With every flashback featuring Damon and Lexi, she is basically telling him what a horrible person he is and that he would negatively influence Stefan's life. Lexi had no cause to be so judgemental of Damon since up until 1977, she hardly spent any time with him. I personally think that they would have killed less had they been allowed to comfort and be there for each other rather than apart. Damon obviously must have some resentment towards the person that kept him from his brother for so long, and it shouldn't come as a shock that that might be one of the reasons why he killed her.

Patpet

I am convinced that was the main reason, among others, she is the culprit for lots of the brothers misunderstanding and resentments.