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KLAUS RETURNS TO HIS PAST IN NEW ORLEANS - Acting on a mysterious tip that a plot is brewing against him in New Orleans, Klaus makes a trip to the town he and his family helped build. Klaus' questions lead him to a reunion with his former protégé, Marcel, a charismatic vampire who has total control over the human and supernatural inhabitants of New Orleans. Determined to help his brother find redemption, Elijah follows Klaus and soon learns that Hayley has also come to the French Quarter searching for clues to her family history, and has fallen into the hands of a powerful witch named Sophie. Meanwhile, in Mystic Falls, Damon and Stefan continue with their plan for Elena, while Katherine reveals a surprising vulnerability to Rebekah and asks her to deliver a message.

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Patpet

Here we go The Originals is set. Let me make a point here because most of the people that say they like The Originals best, is because they haven’t understood the complexity of The Vampire Diaries and think is just a triangle love story, a teen story because there are teenagers involved too and there are none in TO, and we know very well that is not the case, that the love story is the tip of the giant iceberg that The Vampire Diaries is, of the enormous and very unique layered complex show, with tons of subjects explored, with an insanely spectacular circular structure that give to the show the re-watchability factor, where the information are spread in a meticulous, precise way throughout 8 seasons, where every details work agaist each other like a perfect clock mechanism, showing to us little bit more and more. Only at the end, when every part is revealed, we have the entire picture and we can re-look at things with an entirely new fresh eye and discover more and more details. That is something specific to good quality thrillers, where the clues are casually spread in plain sight, but the audience don't know those are clues and don't notice them. Only when you know the entire story then became apparent and we can see them clearly. In TVD this type of trope is take to an entirely another level of complexity that intertwine with the narrative circular structure, and this what makes TVD unique, because to do that kind of enormous work on details, you need time, money and resources that writers of shows very rarely gets. That is why TVD has won 37 Awards, TO none, or why TVD ranks in the IMDb (the official Film and TV industry page) at N. 17 in the list of the most watched show of all time, TO isn’t in the list. TO is more restrained in the theme explored, to family and power straggle, it has a more normal structure that simply unfold before your eyes in a linear narrative structure, as the majority of the shows, and therefore doesn’t need the audience to be so active in interpreting what is going on, to connect the dots, you just simply sit and watch and everything is clear and obvious. That is why TO doesn’t have the re-watchabily factor because when you finish it, you are done with it, there is nothing more that the show will give you that is new. That is understanable, because when you produce two shows running next to another for 4 seasons, with 22 episodes each, and one is top of the scale intricacy and explore so many complex subjects, the other has to be necessarelly much more simple, less broad and more linear. That doesn’t make TO less beautiful and interesting per se, but it will never be on the same league of TVD, in term of artistic value, depth and longevity, TO longevity is only linked to TVD, who is watcing TVd for the first time will want to watch TO too, but the peaple that watch altready bot show, will want to rewatch TVD; the majority does, many times, but not TO, unless is a special rewatch like with a reactor. As most show it wouldn't stand on it's oun, after it's aired, as the majority of other shows. For instance, Breaking Bad I believe to be one of the best TV show ever made, I binge on it once, but after that I've never felt the need, as I do with TVD and very few other show, to watch it again. And while most of the people think that because in TO there are no teen that TO is more mature, but if you look at facts is, actually quite the opposite. TVD is a compendium of explorations of all sort of human aspects, feelings, qualities, faults, fragilities and struggles, as individuals and as a community. To comprehend all the wide spectrum of subjects touched in TVD, like the main subjects, what makes a family, a community, the values of friendships, the difference between young love and adult love, what does it means to became an adult, the effects of hatred and discrimination, etc. and the secondary one, the psychology one, PTSD, survivor guilt, inner conflicts, addiction, control, manipulation, rivalry, coodipendance, what does it means be human and have an expiring date, abuse, and so many others I cannot mention because of spoilers, you need to have a level of maturity, experience, education, perceptivity, that only adults have, that isn’t required in TO, since as I said TO is more simple, there is nothing to interpret, the subjects explored are down to two, family and power, and therefore is more teen, young adult friendly, contrary to TVD that has a level of depth and complexity that requires a more advanced audience; both show are highly enjoyable in terms of pure entertainment, if you want to stop there, but TVD has the added bonus that if you want more it gives you more food for thoughts and more high artistic value level, it won so many awards not by chance. TVD is special and unique, TO is just a great entertaining show.

Maribel Humble

Whenever I restart to watch TVD, I see something I haven't before. There are layers in every scene.

Patpet

To answer to your question, TO is a latter product that wasn't intended from the very beginning. Klaus was supposed to be killed by his father and Elijah wasn't supposed to last long too, in fact he is the only original with a NY accent, picked by Daniel Gilles at the beginning, being the first original to be casted (and they had no idea of who would play Klaus at that time), not knowing that we will last that long. Later they justified the different accent by the fact that having them lived for thousands of years, he could have lost his the original accent and get the one he lived his life the most and it's plausible. This is a case where the actor makes the role. The actors performances where so compelling, off the chart extraordinary, their dynamic and chemistry was so special and so loved by the audiences, that the writers and the producers change their mind, saw the chance to develop the story and the possibility of an interesting spin off, with a story that would hold it's own ground. So yes, TO is different from TVD, it is set in witches and werewolves territory. In reality New Orleans folklore has been always full of witches vudoo stories. So witches here are taken to another level, with an obvious clash of power between Vampires, Witches, Werewolves and Humans in power. This will be not the only case where in TVD, something happens that gives the story an array of unexpected possibilities that the writers will use to get inspired and create another layer to add to this fabulous universe.

Harry Allen

Oooooo this is exactly what I was looking for thank you!! Thats so cool that the actors abilities legit changed how the story would go, and im not surprised tbh, this show isw FULL of amazing talents!

Patpet

Oh I agree, the casting of the show is amazing, and you have to meet only some, more talents are coming. There are plenty of actors their carrier took off because of a role in TVD. So far we've seen, all of the originals, and all the main actors, apart from Ian Somerhalder and Matthew Davis that have done prior significant roles, add to that Stephen Amell, Lauren Cohan, Malese Jow, Sean Faris, to name a few.

Patpet

I know and to be honest, in all my years of watching television (and I started as a child when in Italy television was still black and white), I've never came across with something like this show.

Maribel Humble

The ratings are from how many of The Vampires Diaries fans watch the show the first time it airs on tv. These are only from the USA from adults viewer aged 18 to 49. The numbers are not reflecting the viewers from other countries. We know the show was watched by viewers as young as 9 years old and also by adults over the age of 65. The ratings of the last two season of TVD had a lot to do with how the show was promoted. TVD ratings: Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 1.01-Pilot 4.906 [1] 1.02-The Night of the Comet 3.775 [2] 1.03-Friday Night Bites 3.797 [3] 1.04-Family Ties 3.529 [4] 1.05-You're Undead to Me 3.522 [5] 1.06-Lost Girls 3.877 [6] 1.07-Haunted 4.184 [7] 1.08-162 Candles 4.200 [8] 1.09-History Repeating 4.104 [9] 1.10-The Turning Point 3.567 [10] 1.11-Bloodlines 3.676 [11] 1.12-Unpleasantville 3.702 [12] 1.13-Children of the Damned 3.992 [13] 1.14-Fool Me Once 3.550 [14] 1.15-A Few Good Men 3.333 [15] 1.16-There Goes the Neighborhood 2.799 [16] 1.17-Let The Right One In 3.476 [17] 1.18-Under Control 3.152 [18] 1.19-Miss Mystic Falls 3.329 [19] 1.20-Blood Brothers 3.393 [20] 1.21- Isobel 3.312 [21] 1.22-Founder's Day 3.471 [22] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 2.01–The Return 3.361 [23] 2.02–Brave New World 3.052 [24] 2.03-Bad Moon Rising 3.570 [25] 2.04–Memory Lane 3.183 [26] 2.05–Kill or Be Killed 3.470 [27] 2.06–Plan B 3.624 [28] 2.07–Masquerade 3.546 [29] 2.08–Rose 3.633 [30] 2.09–Katerina 3.495 [31] 2.10-The Sacrifice 3.457 [32] 2.11-By the Light of the Moon 3.156 [33] 2.12-The Descent 3.330 [34] 2.13-Daddy Issues 3.217 [35] 2.14-Crying Wolf 2.793 [36] 2.15-The Dinner Party 3.072 [37] 2.16-The House Guest 2.984 [38] 2.17-Know Thy Enemy 2.730 [39] 2.18-The Last Dance 2.805 [40] 2.19-Klaus (Episode) 2.700 [41] 2.20-The Last Day 2.679 [42] 2.21-The Sun Also Rises 2.840 [43] 2.22-As I Lay Dying 2.860 [44] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 3.01-The Birthday 3.100 [45] 3.02-The Hybrid 2.520 [46] 3.03-The End of the Affair 2.740 [47] 3.04-Disturbing Behavior 2.630 [48] 3.05-The Reckoning 2.892 [49] 3.06-Smells Like Teen Spirit 3.030 [50] 3.07-Ghost World 3.280 [51] 3.08-Ordinary People 3.510 [52] 3.09-Homecoming 3.170 [53] 3.10-The New Deal 3.320 [54] 3.11-Our Town 2.860 [55] 3.12- The Ties That Bind 2.710 [56] 3.13- Bringing Out The Dead 2.740 [57] 3.14-Dangerous Liaisons 3.080 [58] 3.15-All My Children 2.900 [59] 3.16-1912 2.640 [60] 3.17-Break On Through 2.690 [61] 3.18-The Murder of One 2.440 [62] 3.19-Heart of Darkness 2.210 [63] 3.20-Do Not Go Gentle 2.220 [64] 3.21-Before Sunset 2.540 [65] 3.22-The Departed 2.530 [66] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 4.01-Growing Pains 3.180 [67] 4.02-Memorial 2.910 [68] 4.03-The Rager 2.870 [69] 4.04-The Five 3.270 [70] 4.05-The Killer 3.020 [71] 4.06-We All Go a Little Mad Sometimes 2.840 [72] 4.07-My Brother's Keeper 2.860 [73] 4.08-We'll Always Have Bourbon Street 2.420 [74] 4.09-O Come, All Ye Faithful 2.810 [75] 4.10-After School Special 2.950 [76] 4.11-Catch Me If You Can 2.710 [77] 4.12-A View to a Kill 2.570 [78] 4.13-Into the Wild 2.500 [79] 4.14-Down the Rabbit Hole 2.310 [80] 4.15-Stand By Me 2.910 [81] 4.16-Bring It On 2.410 [82] 4.17-Because the Night 2.650 [83] 4.18-American Gothic 2.460 [84] 4.19-Pictures of You 2.140 [85] 4.20-The Originals 2.240 [86] 4.21-She's Come Undone 2.170 [87] 4.22-The Walking Dead 2.280 [88] 4.23-Graduation 2.240 [89] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 5.01-I Know What You Did Last Summer 2.59 [90] 5.02-True Lies 2.14 [91] 5.03-Original Sin 2.93 [92] 5.04-For Whom the Bell Tolls 2.63 [93] 5.05-Monster's Ball 2.07 [94] 5.06-Handle with Care 2.59 [95] 5.07-Death and the Maiden 2.72 [96] 5.08-Dead Man on Campus 2.67 [97] 5.09-The Cell 2.36 [98] 5.10-Fifty Shades of Grayson 2.44 [99] 5.11-500 Years of Solitude 2.72 [100] 5.12-The Devil Inside 2.42 [101] 5.13-Total Eclipse of the Heart 2.16 [102] 5.14-No Exit 2.03 [103] 5.15-Gone Girl 2.19 [104] 5.16-While You Were Sleeping 2.28 [105] 5.17-Rescue Me 1.73 [106] 5.18-Resident Evil 1.66 [107] 5.19-Man on Fire 1.81 [108] 5.20-What Lies Beneath 1.84 [109] 5.21-Promised Land 1.50 [110] 5.22-Home 1.61 [111] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 6.01-I'll Remember 1.810 [112] 6.02-Yellow Ledbetter 1.670 [113] 6.03-Welcome to Paradise 1.830 [114] 6.04-Black Hole Sun 1.660 [115] 6.05-The World Has Turned and Left Me Here 1.580 [116] 6.06-The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get 1.590 [117] 6.07-Do You Remember the First Time? 1.540 [118] 6.08-Fade Into You 1.680 [119] 6.09-I Alone 1.490 [120] 6.10-Christmas Through Your Eyes 1.820 [121] 6.11-Woke Up With a Monster 1.630 [122] 6.12-Prayer For the Dying 1.470 [123] 6.13-The Day I Tried To Live 1.610 [124] 6.14-Stay 1.520 [125] 6.15-Let Her Go 1.410 [126] 6.16-The Downward Spiral 1.300 [127] 6.17-A Bird in a Gilded Cage 1.590 [128] 6.18-I Never Could Love Like That 1.350 [129] 6.19-Because 1.370 [130] 6.20-I'd Leave My Happy Home For You 1.210 [131] 6.21-I'll Wed You in the Golden Summertime 1.320 [132] 6.22-I'm Thinking Of You All The While 1.440 [133] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 7.01-Day One of Twenty-Two Thousand, Give or Take 1.38 [134] 7.02-Never Let Me Go 1.40 [135] 7.03-Age of Innocence 1.20 [136] 7.04-I Carry Your Heart With Me 1.24 [137] 7.05-Live Through This 1.34 [138] 7.06-Best Served Cold 1.32 [139] 7.07-Mommie Dearest 1.10 [140] 7.08-Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me 1.31 [141] 7.09-Cold as Ice 1.18 [142] 7.10-Hell Is Other People 1.23 [143] 7.11-Things We Lost in the Fire 1.09 [144] 7.12-Postcards from the Edge 1.05 [145] 7.13-This Woman's Work 1.01 [146] 7.14-Moonlight on the Bayou 1.12 [147] 7.15-I Would for You 1.06 [148] 7.16-Days of Future Past 1.07 [149] 7.17-I Went to the Woods 1.03 [150] 7.18-One Way or Another 1.02 [151] 7.19-Somebody That I Used to Know 1.02 [152] 7.20-Kill 'Em All 1.05 [153] 7.21-Requiem for a Dream 0.90 [154] 7.22-Gods and Monsters 1.04 [155] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 8.01-Hello, Brother 0.98 [156] 8.02-Today Will Be Different 0.90 [157] 8.03-You Decided That I Was Worth Saving 0.94 [158] 8.04-An Eternity of Misery 1.00 [159] 8.05-Coming Home Was a Mistake 0.92 [160] 8.06-Detoured On Some Random Backwoods Path to Hell 1.05 [161] 8.07-The Next Time I Hurt Somebody, It Could Be You 0.98 [162] 8.08-We Have History Together 0.95 [163] 8.09-The Simple Intimacy of the Near Touch 0.86 [164] 8.10-Nostalgia's a Bitch 0.94 [165] 8.11-You Made a Choice to Be Good 0.92 [166] 8.12-What Are You? 1.11 [167] 8.13-The Lies Will Catch Up To You 0.99 [168] 8.14-It's Been a Hell of a Ride 1.04 [169] 8.15-We're Planning a June Wedding 1.14 [170] 8.16-I Was Feeling Epic 1.15 [171] The Original ratings: Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 1.01-Always and Forever 2.21 [172] 1.02-House of the Rising Son 1.92 [173] 1.03-Tangled Up In Blue 2.22 [174] 1.04-Girl in New Orleans 2.23 [175] 1.05-Sinners and Saints 2.05 [176] 1.06-Fruit of the Poisoned Tree 2.03 [177] 1.07-Bloodletting 2.40 [178] 1.08-The River in Reverse 2.38 [179] 1.09-Reigning Pain in New Orleans 2.33 [180] 1.10-The Casket Girls 2.07 [181] 1.11-Après Moi, Le Déluge 2.51 [182] 1.12-Dance Back from the Grave 2.32 [183] 1.13-Crescent City 2.10 [184] 1.14-Long Way Back From Hell 1.83 [185] 1.15-Le Grand Guignol 1.85 [186] 1.16-Farewell to Storyville 1.73 [187] 1.17-Moon Over Bourbon Street 1.53 [188] 1.18-The Big Uneasy 1.52 [189] 1.19-An Unblinking Death 1.50 [190] 1.20-A Closer Walk With Thee 1.77 [191] 1.21-The Battle of New Orleans 1.44 [192] 1.22-From a Cradle to a Grave 1.76 [193] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 2.01-Rebirth 1.36 [194] 2.02-Alive and Kicking 1.29 [195] 2.03-Every Mother's Son 1.27 [196] 2.04-Live and Let Die 1.31 [197] 2.05-Red Door 1.09 [198] 2.06-Wheel Inside the Wheel 1.46 [199] 2.07-Chasing the Devil's Tail 1.44 [200] 2.08-The Brothers That Care Forgot 1.26 [201] 2.09-The Map of Moments 1.41 [202] 2.10-Gonna Set Your Flag On Fire 1.52 [203] 2.11-Brotherhood of the Damned 1.74 [204] 2.12-Sanctuary 1.47 [205] 2.13-The Devil is Damned 1.22 [206] 2.14-I Love You, Goodbye 1.44 [207] 2.15-They All Asked For You 1.40 [208] 2.16-Save My Soul 1.25 [209] 2.17-Exquisite Corpse 1.12 [210] 2.18-Night Has A Thousand Eyes 1.01 [211] 2.19-When the Levee Breaks 1.30 [212] 2.20-City Beneath The Sea 1.20 [213] 2.21-Fire with Fire 1.14 [214] 2.22-Ashes to Ashes 1.19 [215] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 3.01-For the Next Millennium 0.89 [216] 3.02-You Hung the Moon 1.12 [217] 3.03-I'll See You in Hell or New Orleans 0.95 [218] 3.04-A Walk on the Wild Side 1.07 [219] 3.05-The Axeman's Letter 0.97 [220] 3.06-Beautiful Mistake 0.98 [221] 3.07-Out of the Easy 0.80 [222] 3.08-The Other Girl in New Orleans 1.17 [223] 3.09-Savior 0.97 [224] 3.10-A Ghost Along the Mississippi 0.95 [225] 3.11-Wild at Heart 0.92 [226] 3.12-Dead Angels 0.80 [227] 3.13-Heart Shaped Box 0.87 [228] 3.14-A Streetcar Named Desire 1.07 [229] 3.15-An Old Friend Calls 0.88 [230] 3.16-Alone with Everybody 0.93 [231] 3.17-Behind the Black Horizon 0.89 [232] 3.18-The Devil Comes Here and Sighs 0.86 [233] 3.19-No More Heartbreaks 0.93 [234] 3.20-Where Nothing Stays Buried 0.83 [235] 3.21-Give 'Em Hell Kid 0.79 [236] 3.22-The Bloody Crown 0.85 [237] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 4.01-Gather Up the Killers 1.05 [238] 4.02-No Quarter 0.99 [239] 4.03-Haunter of Ruins 0.93 [240] 4.04-Keepers of the House 1.08 [241] 4.05-I Hear You Knocking 0.87 [242] 4.06-Bag of Cobras 0.96 [243] 4.07-High Water and a Devil's Daughter 0.93 [244] 4.08-Voodoo in My Blood 0.85 [245] 4.09-Queen Death 0.84 [246] 4.10-Phantomesque 1.03 [247] 4.11-A Spirit Here That Won't Be Broken 0.89 [248] 4.12-Voodoo Child 1.01 [249] 4.13-The Feast of All Sinners 0.80 [250] Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) 5.01-Where You Left Your Heart 0.97 [251] 5.02-One Wrong Turn On Bourbon 1.03 [252] 5.03-Ne Me Quitte Pas 0.90 [253] 5.04-Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea 0.76 [254] 5.05-Don't It Just Break Your Heart 0.80 [255] 5.06-What, Will, I, Have, Left 0.82 [256] 5.07-God's Gonna Trouble the Water 0.77 [257] 5.08-The Kindness of Strangers 0.86 [258] 5.09-We Have Not Long To Love 0.77 [259] 5.10-There in the Disappearing Light 0.77 [260] 5.11-Til the Day I Die 0.68 [261] 5.12-The Tale of Two Wolves 0.85 [262] 5.13-When The Saints Go Marching In 0.86 [263] Season average for TVD &TO: The Vampire Diaries[1] Season One 3.66 Season Two 3.16 Season Three 2.81 Season Four 2.64 Season Five 2.23 Season Six 1.54 Season Seven 1.14 Season Eight 1.00 Originals[2] Season 1 1.98 Season 2 1.31 Season 3 0.93 Season 4 0.94 Season 5 0.83

Latrae Osborne

That's a very reductive way of looking at TO. It explores the same things except young love. Family and power are literally surface level analysis. It also explores themes of racism, discrimination, allusions to slavery, class warfare, religious tolerance and subjugation, adherence to traditional values/morals, the point of an ever changing psyche, evolution, understanding trauma, and more. Do not downplay the story just to build it TVD. It's good definitely but TO is just as good and profound.

Mark Wood

Ugh The above list states this is a listed of the viewers 18-49 that watched TVD and the Originals. It is not. These numbers are all P2+ (Meaning in layman's term Total overall viewers, no viewers under two are ever included in Nielsen Ratings). Total Viewers broken down by demo ween't generally provided to the public. But you can use its demo to convert based on each specific years Universal estimate for the age bracket to get a range (Demos usually were released to just one decimal point, effectual to two, the more decimal points the smaller the range of the viewer in that demo). For example its first episode got 4.906 Live + Same day total viewers and a 2.1 ratings in adults 18-49. That gives the number of viewers in the age group of 18-49 to be between 2.706 - 2.837 million viewers between the age of 18-49. Now Once TVD was no longer the top performing show on the CW (Flash knocked it out in demos) the amount of Promotion that it got declined. And as its ratings continued to decline that promotion also declines. This isn't a dig on TVD, this is standard behavior for networks. TVD only had 3 full seasons were it led the CW in both demo and viewers, 4th season also was top in demo, not viewers, and Season 5 in the official season (meaning not including summer reruns it barely beat SPN in the demo while getting beat both both Arrow and SPN in viewers. Once the Flash come in that was the end of TVD having either a viewer or demo lead for the network (outside of some gender specific demos). While for example the Flash lead the network in both viewers and demos for 7 of its 9 seasons. And its ratings also declined dramatically over the years. Having declining ratings are quite normal for shows. It's by far the most common trend for shows. And yes TVD got moved to Fridays for its last two seasons, but it 6th seasons (still on Thursday) saw very similar declines the year before the move to Friday. ANd to put it into perspective, TVD is one of the longest lasting shows that aired on the CW (several CW shows actually started either on UPN or The WB before the merged). With 171 episodes these are the only show that produced more episodes. The Flash 174 episodes (Another show like TVD that started with a bang and had pretty steady declines over its life time. Smallville having 217 episodes 7th Heaven having 243 episodes (both 7th Heaven and Smallville started out fairly strong, but they did manage to grow during their run, before they started their ratings declines. and finally Supernatural with 327 episodes. SPN started better then average, but had lower typical declines over the years, and had a few seasons through its run where they actually grew, It also is a good example of how some shows (most don't) managed to have a rather strong hold even when it moved to Friday. TVD had a very respectable run out performing the vast majority of shows that ever aired on the CW.